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One final attempt....

If a bookie has an average overround of 2.5% (an expected gross margin much less because of the sharps) surely you can see that someone who deposits cash at 2.3% cost to the...

I am agree 'BigCash' it is a waste of time commenting on anything you write. You seize on one element. 4% that may in fact be 2.8% or 2.3%. So what? It does not change the fact that they lose you...

I don't doubt it is with Pinnacle. BigCash was talking about other bookies who operate from a different situation. SBObet sponsored WestHam and 188bet got involved with ManCity. Pinnacle does none of...

Volumes on correct scores and 1X2 markets are higher in Europe than Asian hcaps. SBObet seems to have majority access from SE-Asia but how many of those customers use agents who can leave large...

Er. Are you serious? Pinnacle have 100.3% for those scores, SBObet are 110.5%. 188bet (not sure you could call them a probook anyway) are 104.4%. Massive difference across the different firms.

Processing costs I was using a figure quoted by someone else. You are now saying these are 2.3% to 2.8%. Fine. I stand corrected on that. Still cannot you not see even at your figures Pinnacle will...

Looking at correct scores pinnacle do:


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Weird reply bigcash. What net margin do you think they are making then? I am struggling to see where you are going from with this.

The other companies that you say offer the same service simply do...

Of course there is a difference between 2.3% and 4% but the main point is maintained. If a player deposits then withdraws cash by only turning over the money X times the bookmaker expects to lose...

Sounds reasonable dirtdog52658. The only issue I suppose is the complexity. Betfair started its decline when the charging structure got too complex. Having said the structure you suggest is not...

The only other solution I would suggest would be a points based system on your longer term action rather than deposit to deposit.

So a round trip of a deposit/withdraw is around 4%. Their overrounds are around 2-3% so their actual profit margin is probably 0.75%-1.4% (when you take into account the sharps) and you guys object...

If I deposit $10k with a bookmaker and then withdraw the $10k how much does the bookmaker have to pay the payment processor? Anyone got actual figures on this?

SBO has similiar percentages for Asian hcaps but most worse for other markets. Betfair has the Premium Charge that makes it a non-starter if you are a position gambler. Matchbook has very limited...

So you would rather get worse odds for all your bets so that on the odd chance you want to withdraw before rolling over a deposit you can do so for free?

The issue here is what do you expect from a discount bookmaker?

Pinnacle supply a no frills website, no live video, no data on teams and they charge for withdrawing money if its costing them alot...