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I don't use DRF .I said what I use many times and don't want to look like a shill any more than I already have.I don't want to trash DRF but imo it's like buying a 1995 cadillac for 2014 prices.

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Looks like there may be a monsoon Friday so best to prepare for a very wet track just in case.

The Friday card(Black Eyed Susan) has been up since Sunday.

Think it is equibase or trackmaster ratings.No idea what they translate to on the beyer scale

Yeah half that board was talking about the other CC for a while.Well before the analysis.

TFUS liked him also for pretty much the same reasons...this was their write up

Commanding Curve (50-1):...

the 2nd place horse




It's a service called trakus.Not all tracks use it.Think Woodbine was one of the first then maybe GP and finally NYRA

Hart Time form and the other Euro figs go by a weight for age scale I think.Totally different than USA figuremakers

I was surprised by who ran the best race on the card.Somehow slipped past me.

You're gonna have to research that urself

Way too hard to explain but at the core of it is par times for the track>slap a variant on it>put fig according to ur scale

The top 2 I mentioned...

TG has it Pair-Top-Pair-Off-Pair for the top 5

Everyone making excuses on why they have it so slow.I'm not buying it.No way every single horse regressed.At least CJ bumped it up a bit more than Beyer.Timeform 110 equates to a 103 beyer.

I'll...

Borel off Ride On Curlin....Rosario up for Preakness

here is an example ...don't think I'll get in trouble if it's from a while ago


this is one race...so all these were entered is say race 5 and then every horse in the race that is in the database...

This is who I use


http://www.racingwithbruno.com/


then there are these for Cali

https://secure.nationalturf.com/workouts/sample.html

The final time of the work is meaningless

Anyone can encourage their horse to run a 46 half or 59 5f.

It's how they do it that makes workout reports valuable.

For instance Horse A worked 59...

Wildcat Red wasn't getting the distance bad workout or not.Even when CD is playing speed friendly it is much more demanding than GP.

I saw quite a few people liking Curve beforehand but it was...

Need to watch the race some more but there were several hidden good efforts.




I think if anything this race went to show that all the workout hype by drf and others isn't too important.The...

Pletcher is 1 for 36 in the Kentucky Derby and quite a few were short prices.

He is a great trainer but he usually burns them out before May.Which is a positive for Danza being he must of had...

no idea...all the places they have 20+ runners(Europe/Australia/etc...) use same color for everyone

Think it has to be a first in the KD

everyone moves in one...he gets stall 20 with the 21 saddle cloth

If he can replicate his Blue Grass he could be in the mix.

The question is can he do it while rating as I don't think he has a chance to set the pace and can he do it on dirt.That was by far his...

because he is a anchor anywhere but Churchill Downs



jk I dunno

Not saying he transfers it to CD but Pablo Del Monte ran huge in the Blue Grass

The top 7 at the finish were 10th-9th-1st(Him)-13th-12th-11th-14th early and it was a dead track that favored...

Hmmmmm

looks like I was wrong about someone

past performances aren't out yet

No don't like the 20 spot.He can still win as 2 of the last 5 winners have had the far outside post and 3 of last 5 came from aux gate but hard to take single digits.Will still use him but now...

they pick a name(horse) and a pill(post)

It's random..no one gets to choose anything


Vicars In Trouble drew #1 right off the bat

Battaglia lost his mind with some of these mls



1-Vicars In Trouble 30-1
2-Harrys Holiday 50-1
3-Uncle Sigh 30-1
4-Danza 10-1
5-Cal Chrome 5-2
6-Samraat 15-1

Pre pps

1st-Wicked Strong
2nd-Hoppertunity
3rd-Intense Holiday
4th-Medal Count
5th-Danza
6th-California Chrome
7th-Samraat
8th-Genral A Rod

Should expand on this.

The vast majority of the time all sources have agreed who was fastest, what horses figured , and most of who to toss.This year every source is different.

I think how people bet is going to come down to what source of information you use.

IMO Brisnet pps aren't worth the ink to print them and Beyer figures aren't much better but at least they are...

Thx guys...BG you do good work with your site.




I never said he was.Trinniberg wasn't cheap speed either.Turn either of them back to their wheelhouse and they are very good.It's not one or...

You can reinvent yourself as many times as you wish, that's the beauty of the internet but anyone that visits this forum knows who is new at this and who isn't.One post your saying that Wildcat Red...

And this is why your posts don't hold much weight

If they get into the derby they are going there(1)("If we can make the Derby, we're going to go").You're like (2)The Onion of forum posters.You state everything as if it's 100% fact but it's the...

If Social Inclusion happens to get in he will take a lot of money too .



Social Inclusion is legit.He is the only one that might knock me off Wicked Strong.

It's his wallet practicing voodoo

He is a tricky read but one thing I am sure of is that he was not 100% wound up for his last race.



General A rod didn't pass him in the Gulfstream Park Derby?There is a huge difference between...

I think Cairo Prince is interesting too but in the future see him being a Grade 1 miler, maybe 9 panels on a speed favoring track like the spa or monmouth which puts the Haskell in play.

Kentucky...

Nah Bode was a speedball, this guy can seemingly sit in the pocket until the stretch and explode.



I agree.The same can be said for a few others too though.

Going to be tough for me to like him in Kentucky Derby but Danza ran HUGE.Time-wise would have been neck and neck with Will Take Charge a race earlier.

I guess if I had to pick 1 it'd be Vicars In Trouble at 28-1.Think Hoppertunity will be right around 12 or 15-1 so no value there but Vicars In Trouble could be around the same so he seems like the...

Nah, when I go down there now it's for vacation.I play up here

*Tapiture's resume is pretty weak.The only notch in his belt is the much overhyped Strong Mandate.He was close to Hoppertunity but I think that is because M Smith rode Hopp like he was the best horse...

Nah...think all the serious contenders ran already.Some people seem to like Bayern who runs in the Ark Derby and Bobby's Kitten who is the likely favorite in the Blue Grass but I don't get them.

Crazy predictions

1)Hoppertunity breaks the curse of Apollo by 1/2 length over Wicked Strong
2)Social Inclusion whistles in the Preakness
3)Noble Moon surprises in the Belmont at boxcars