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Yeah that was the first time he has ever been pinned in.In the FOY he got a pretty clear trip from rail draw as the speed opened a gap and he rallied wide.Maybe that was part of it today but I would...

Exactly...Polar opposite of derby where pace collapsed and further back the better...today glacial pace and no chance if not in contention turning for home.

nice call...D Wayne still kicking

Yep gl...I just don't want to see Goldencents steal it.Something about D Oneill just irritates me.

Well in the derby he only had 1 off race so you could throw it out but now with 2 in a row its harder for me to excuse it.Plus he handled a wet track before so not buying that.You may be right about...

Think I agree with you STR except for Itsmyluckyday.While he and Goldencents are the horses that scare me I'm just presuming they are over the top.I don't see hardly any scenario where Orb finishes...