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    Shazz I'll try to PM the fades to you

    Shazz I'll try to PM the fades to you
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    Nope, but I'll take the hint, and not go on and...

    Nope, but I'll take the hint, and not go on and on posting data that is just not as odd as it was when I first started posting it...
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    lac/chi O 2 units --> -2 chi beats lac 1 unit...

    lac/chi O 2 units --> -2
    chi beats lac 1 unit --> -2
    cha/orl O 1 unit --> -1
    orl beats cha 4 units --> -4
    okc/lal U 2 units --> -2
    lal beats okc 4 units --> -4
    no/den O 2 units --> -2...
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    Fade pip query library day 15

    lac/chi O 2 units
    chi beats lac 1 unit
    cha/orl O 1 unit
    orl beats cha 4 units
    okc/lal U 2 units
    lal beats okc 4 units
    no/den O 2 units
    cle/hou O 1 unit
    hou beats cle 2 units
    bos beats gs 3...
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    mn beats mem 5 units --> +5 mia beats atl 2...

    mn beats mem 5 units --> +5
    mia beats atl 2 units --> +2
    mil/ut O 2 units --> -2
    ut beats mil 1 unit --> +1
    tor/ny O 5 units --> +5
    ny beats tor 8 units --> +8
    bkn/dal O 1 unit -->...
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    Fade pip query library day 14

    mn beats mem 5 units
    mia beats atl 2 units
    mil/ut O 2 units
    ut beats mil 1 unit
    tor/ny O 5 units
    ny beats tor 8 units
    bkn/dal O 1 unit
    bkn beats dal 1 unit
    phx beats sa 1 unit
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    mn beats chi 3 units --> -3 mn/chi O 1 unit ...

    mn beats chi 3 units --> -3
    mn/chi O 1 unit --> -1
    cle/ind U 1 unit --> +1
    ind beats cle 2 units --> +2
    cha/bos U 1 unit --> -1
    bos beats cha 1 unit --> +1
    mem beats lac 1 unit ...
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    Heh! I'm not sure if you are referring to the...

    Heh! I'm not sure if you are referring to the tracking of the results or the shoddy method of recording wins vs losses! But if you see what I am doing then you are definitely a few steps ahead of...
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    Fade pip query library day 13

    mn beats chi 3 units
    mn/chi O 1 unit
    cle/ind U 1 unit
    ind beats cle 2 units
    cha/bos U 1 unit
    bos beats cha 1 unit
    mem beats lac 1 unit
    lac/mem U 1 unit
    mia beats no 1 unit
    ny/det O 1 unit
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    cle beats gs 3 units --> +3 gs/cle O 1 unit ...

    cle beats gs 3 units --> +3
    gs/cle O 1 unit --> -1
    okc/phx U 2 units --> -2
    phx beats okc 3 units --> +3

    total +3
    running total +12
    (107-95)
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    Fade pip query library day 12

    cle beats gs 3 units
    gs/cle O 1 unit
    okc/phx U 2 units
    phx beats okc 3 units
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    phi/mil O 3 units --> +3 phi beats mil 2 units...

    phi/mil O 3 units --> +3
    phi beats mil 2 units --> -2
    cha/chi U 1 unit --> +1
    chi beats cha 2 units --> -2
    mem/sac O 1 unit --> -1
    sac beats mem 1 unit --> +1
    bos beats ny 2 units -->...
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    Fade pip query library day 11

    phi/mil O 3 units
    phi beats mil 2 units
    cha/chi U 1 unit
    chi beats cha 2 units
    mem/sac O 1 unit
    sac beats mem 1 unit
    bos beats ny 2 units
    lal beats ut 1 unit
    orl beats mia 1 unit
    dal beats...
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    cle/det U 1 unit --> +1 det beats cle 2 units...

    cle/det U 1 unit --> +1
    det beats cle 2 units --> -2
    tor beats dal 1 unit --> -1
    wsh beats gs 10 units --> -10
    gs/wsh O 3 units --> +3
    okc beats ind 4 units --> +4

    Total -5
    Running total +9...
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    Fade pip query library day 10

    cle/det U 1 unit
    det beats cle 2 units
    tor beats dal 1 unit
    wsh beats gs 10 units
    gs/wsh O 3 units
    okc beats ind 4 units
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    mem/lac O 1 unit --> -1 den beats bkn 4 units ...

    mem/lac O 1 unit --> -1
    den beats bkn 4 units --> -4
    tor/no U 2 units --> -2
    no beats tor 5 units --> +5
    phi/mia O 2 units --> +2
    sa/ut O 2 units --> -2
    ut beats sa 5 units --> +5
    mn...
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    Sorry, I just got back from work and it looks...

    Sorry, I just got back from work and it looks like that game already sailed. But I sure as heck didn't see anything wrong with the query. I kind of stopped with those 1st quarter games because I got...
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    Fade pip query library day 9

    mem/lac O 1 unit
    den beats bkn 4 units
    tor/no U 2 units
    no beats tor 5 units
    phi/mia O 2 units
    sa/ut O 2 units
    ut beats sa 5 units
    mn beats hou 1 unit
    bos/phx U 1 unit
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    mil beats atl 5 units --> -5 cle beats ny 1...

    mil beats atl 5 units --> -5
    cle beats ny 1 unit --> +1
    cle/ny O 1 unit --> -1
    bos/lal U 1 unit --> -1
    lal beats bos 2 units --> +2
    cha/dal U 1 unit --> +1
    ind beats gs 5 units --> +5...
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    Fade pip query library day 8

    48 active queries found today, here are the fades:

    mil beats atl 5 units
    cle beats ny 1 unit
    cle/ny O 1 unit
    bos/lal U 1 unit
    lal beats bos 2 units
    cha/dal U 1 unit
    ind beats gs 5 units...
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    mia beats no 2 units --> -2 okc/cha O 1 unit ...

    mia beats no 2 units --> -2
    okc/cha O 1 unit --> +1
    tor/hou U 1 unit --> +1

    total 0
    running total +8
    (52-44)
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    I want to make sure it is clear that what I am...

    I want to make sure it is clear that what I am fading is my own library of queries. It's really tentative fading, with very small bets being placed. If the fading wins, then perhaps that would be...
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    fade pip query library day 7

    mia beats no 2 units
    okc/cha O 1 unit
    tor/hou U 1 unit
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    det beats chi 1 unit --> +1 det/chi O 1 unit ...

    det beats chi 1 unit --> +1
    det/chi O 1 unit --> -1
    mn beats phx 1 unit --> +1
    mn/phx O 1 unit --> +1
    tor/atl U 1 unit --> +1
    tor beats atl 1 unit --> +1
    ny beats mia 3 units --> -3...
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    fade pip query library day 6

    33 active queries found today so I will skip straight to the fade translation:

    det beats chi 1 unit
    det/chi O 1 unit
    mn beats phx 1 unit
    mn/phx O 1 unit
    tor/atl U 1 unit
    tor beats atl 1 unit...
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    dal beats okc 1 units --> -1 lac beats sa 2...

    dal beats okc 1 units --> -1
    lac beats sa 2 units --> +2
    sa/lac O 2 units --> +2

    total +3
    running total +10
    (38-28)
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    fade pip query library day 5 ...

    fade pip query library day 5

    Spurs(X6W)(A7)/Clippers(H7)(-2.5--203.0) -- SU: 82-44 (4.31, 65.1%) -- ATS: 84-37-5 (3.28, 69.4%)6W10LWWWWLLWLLLLLWLLL -- OU: 60-64-2 (0.48, 48.4%) L5
    ...
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    The sheet consists of nearly 300 single queries,...

    The sheet consists of nearly 300 single queries, many of which are of dubious value even in good seasons, and I don't think this is a good season, so there are many more queries from that sheet that...
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    I really don't think programming experience is...

    I really don't think programming experience is necessary. It helped me feel a little more confident about being able to eventually learn the sdql commands, because you kind of feel that if you can...
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    4 possible reasons the pip query libraries have...

    4 possible reasons the pip query libraries have performed so much worse than throwing a dart:

    1. Simple variance that will probably swing back in the other direction with a vengeance.
    2. Weird...
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    How long will this last? Is it like nuclear...

    How long will this last? Is it like nuclear energy, can it be harnessed for the good of mankind?
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    chi/cle O 4 units --> +4 chi beats cle 3 units...

    chi/cle O 4 units --> +4
    chi beats cle 3 units --> +3

    total +7

    running total +7
    (34-27)
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    Fading the pip query library day 4

    chi/cle O 4 units
    chi beats cle 3 units
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    Nash, I haven't gotten to the point of trying to...

    Nash, I haven't gotten to the point of trying to single out queries. I just have a big pile of query results from the past month and a half, and most days the losers outnumber the winners, and while...
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    cle/mia U 1, --> -1 bos/atl O 2, --> -2 sac...

    cle/mia U 1, --> -1
    bos/atl O 2, --> -2
    sac L vs mil 1, --> -1
    ny L vs orl 2, --> +2
    ny/orl U 1, --> +1
    dal/ut U 1, --> +1
    sa L vs det 7, --> -7
    lal/por U 1, --> +1
    mn/gs U 1,...
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    Is anybody in that market interested in buying...

    Is anybody in that market interested in buying queries to fade? I've made some pretty good ones of those...
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    Fading the pip query library day 3

    cle/mia U 1,
    bos/atl O 2,
    sac L vs mil 1,
    ny L vs orl 2,
    ny/orl U 1,
    dal/ut U 1,
    sa L vs det 7,
    lal/por U 1,
    mn/gs U 1,
    gs L vs MN 1,
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    Fading the pip query library: mem beats bkn...

    Fading the pip query library:

    mem beats bkn 1--> -1
    cha/det U 1-->+1
    lal/den U 3 --> P
    den beats lal 3 --> +3
    phx beats hou 1 --> -1

    Total +2
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    Fading the pip query library: mem beats bkn 1...

    Fading the pip query library:

    mem beats bkn 1
    cha/det U 1
    lal/den U 3
    den beats lal 3
    phx beats hou 1
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    mil/bkn O 2 units -- +2 atl L 2 units -- -2...

    mil/bkn O 2 units -- +2
    atl L 2 units -- -2
    mia L 1 unit -1
    ut O 1 unit -- +1
    ut L 2 units -- -2
    ind W 8 units -- +8
    phi L 2 units -2
    phi U 1 unit -- +1
    sa U 1 unit -- +1
    okc W 2...
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    You sound really pissed. But you make top notch...

    You sound really pissed. But you make top notch queries and probably good money as well, so it's not clear why you would be so pissed off. If people aren't doing it the way you do it, they will...
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    Another aspect of this is I still remember how...

    Another aspect of this is I still remember how well the spitball queries did. Part of that might have been lucky timing, but the spitball queries, up until the Nash sheet got made, were like 85%...
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    That would be kind of awesome! In that case...

    That would be kind of awesome! In that case fading the quries might actually work until the lines makers adjust again!
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    Nice work Cutler. One thing I have come to...

    Nice work Cutler. One thing I have come to believe about the sample size is that it might be good to not consider it by itself, but as a function of time. For example, two queries could have the...
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    OK, so here are my picks/units for today, fading...

    OK, so here are my picks/units for today, fading today's queries:

    mil/bkn O 2 units
    atl L 2 units
    mia L 1 unit
    ut O 1 unit
    ut L 2 units
    ind W 8 units
    phi L 2 units
    phi U 1 unit
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    How about if you had 100,000 query results saved...

    How about if you had 100,000 query results saved and 60,000 of them lost over the past couple of years? Wouldn't you feel confident about fading them? I would. But what I am wondering is where is...
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    I agree with you but along with being fine if I...

    I agree with you but along with being fine if I make money, I am perfectly fine if the queries I currently have can consistently lose at a 60% rate, because for me that isn't materially different...
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    One impression I get from reading down my saved...

    One impression I get from reading down my saved list of results, is that in one of those days, say, when there are 10 winners and 15 losers, or maybe even 20 losers and 5 winners, there are some...
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    Every day, for maybe a a month and a half or so,...

    Every day, for maybe a a month and a half or so, I have been running a program to go through the Nash google sheet as well as my own compilation of queries, looking for the active ones for that day. ...
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    Thanks hyahya!

    Thanks hyahya!
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