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Yeah, but I guess those are mostly traders. Can't get a better place for trading than betfair.

Those who pay it are probably either traders, or they need the horse racing and that's why they can't take their business elsewhere.

The big sharp guys that bet on sports do it at pinny, sbo and...

I know you don't pay the PC as you have already mentioned it on the forum, but for the big bankrolls bettors out there betfair becomes a no no once the PC come knocking and the only options left are...

I haven't seen anything new on the Real1992 issue. Could it be just a misunderstanding? If I deposit 1000 and lose 950, 50 left and deposit another 1000 I should be required to rollover 1050 5...

I don't understand something. You said that you used to make only one withdrawal per month at pinny. Now you are upset about the 5x condition. Didn't you used to rollover your deposit at least 5...

Maybe pinnacle as a business doesn't have financial problems but maybe the owners have.

Guy from pinnacle said in the q&a session that they get much much more volume on asian hcaps than on 1x2

if the 95% were already rolling over their deposits on a regular basis what is the point of your idea? they won't even notice the rule 30. The only question is if that 5% is an accurate number.

probably the best post on the issue if the numbers are right

That sounds like the description of a somewhat sharp bettor who will always shop for the best price but has a small bankroll and has to withdraw all the time. I think even pinnacle encouraged bettors...

Why? Because of rule 30?

matchbook on major markets

The way they did it was very unprofessional.

And they even claim it is industry standard which is absolute bullcrap.

They have articles advising bettors not to be fooled by bookmaker's...

Matchbook is fully licensed to process wagers by the Alderney Gambling Control Commission (AGCC).

Pinnacle is licensed to conduct online gaming operations by the Government of Curacao.
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I won 25$ from thegreek by playing their NHL competition once.

4x rollover requirement.

less than pinny and it wasn't even my money.

5x on your own deposit seems quite strange considering...

is this for real?

it could be the case. Matchbook are probably attracting a lot of volume that used to go at Pinnacle.