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    1. This horse will get this experience most...

    1. This horse will get this experience most likely in his next work or two. Probably do the spray thing a few times. It's not that he does not like it necessarily, it is that he had never experienced...
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    Maybe someone can post the link here. I don't...

    Maybe someone can post the link here. I don't know what I'm doing.

    I'm lucky I'm still not using a pay phone when I'm not home. Lol.
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    Don't think so. I see you tube all over the...

    Don't think so. I see you tube all over the place.


    This particular replay would be great for people to see. It explains everything as to why that horse did what he did.
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    Is it correct that we should NOT be posting...

    Is it correct that we should NOT be posting replays anymore? Kind of a shame as a lot of people would have rapid access to that replay and be able to see exactly what I'm talking about.
    If not, I...
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    Yeah, he's a runner. Let's follow...

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    Yeah, he's a runner. Let's follow him for a while as well.

    Here is what happened in that race.

    Watch the race and at :32 on the replay time, the rider has to take back off the...
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    It's not so much that as the rider has not even...

    It's not so much that as the rider has not even asked him a bit. When they hit the wire, his rider asked to go on and he responded by going by a length or two. Teaching him to try and wait for...
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    Only look at their eyes and the area between the...

    Only look at their eyes and the area between the white bridles squared off. Between the nose band and the ears. You can see in their eyes that one is dominant and one is conceding. Although even at...
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    https://wcms.drf.com/sites/default/files/styles/ar...

    https://wcms.drf.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_hero_image/public/2024-04/Fierceness%20works%20outside%20Agate%20Road%20at%20CD%20April%2026%202024.BL_.jpg
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    From what little I see and not knowing the horse...

    From what little I see and not knowing the horse at all, Where Kingsbarns was in need of a complete intervention to get him straightened out, I have to think that an extreme measure is probably not...
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    Clement said he will keep all his NY options...

    Clement said he will keep all his NY options open. Safe to say the plan is to keep him in NY for the spring and summer I assume.
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    Your right. I did not think of that when I saw...

    Your right. I did not think of that when I saw the Peter Pan name pop up. Was kind of licking my chops like it was almost a gimmie. Lol.

    But even still, it will be interesting to see his odds and...
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    A DRF quote :"Deterministic, who earned enough...

    A DRF quote :"Deterministic, who earned enough qualifying points to get into the Kentucky Derby by virtue of his victory in the Grade 3 Gotham Stakes on March 2, finished eighth in the Grade 2 Wood...
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    I was as pleased as I could be not as much when...

    I was as pleased as I could be not as much when he didn't run after the speed, but listened to his rider as the 9 went by him just before and into the 1st turn. He barely thought about it for more...
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    No. I’ve already thought of him winning here,...

    No. I’ve already thought of him winning here, Monmouth at least once and going for the Whitney and the Classic. I know it’s just a dream but when I do dream, it’s usually big with a scaled down...
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    I thought this spot was top 2 or 3 logical...

    I thought this spot was top 2 or 3 logical factoring class and timing..I agree str that ideally you'd want him going a half to 1 furlong shorter (latter probably more common) and this is an...
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    [/B] That is very fair for the player. Never...

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    That is very fair for the player. Never happened back in the day. More than once an otherwise 10-1 shot "other half" of an entry would be
    8-5 or something like that. That was not cool at all.
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    Not yet with RTN EZ. My company is keeping me...

    Not yet with RTN EZ. My company is keeping me very busy these days. I would have no time to watch right now. Just weekends probably and they could be tough as well with all that goes on around here....
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    Back in the day,( 70's and earlier), if a trainer...

    Back in the day,( 70's and earlier), if a trainer OR an owner with more than one trainer had more than one horse in a race, they were coupled as 1, 1A or even 1X if it was a stake and they had more...
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    I do concur JBEX. For me, I am getting the...

    I do concur JBEX. For me, I am getting the feeling that this horse is at a crossroads rather quickly as to how he will be looked upon after Saturday. What I mean is... let's back up a couple of...
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    I would have BET BIG on him !

    I would have BET BIG on him !
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    I was really happy to see the article about...

    I was really happy to see the article about unlikely to run in the Derby. That means he came out of the race in fine shape.

    So strictly from a conditioning standpoint he physically got plenty out...
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    Heck yes. The mutual window doesn’t know if...

    Heck yes.
    The mutual window doesn’t know if it’s the Derby or Maiden 7,500 right?
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    That’s a shame. You know Robbie liked the spot....

    That’s a shame. You know Robbie liked the spot. That was a weak race. Must have gotten sick or hopefully something very minor.

    I was hurrying on those last posts. Typo much?
    Hahaha.
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    Agree, mainlky on the cpomment about cheap horses...

    Agree, mainlky on the cpomment about cheap horses and very fit.

    you don't see that all the time with lesser % trainers.

    They run them fit.

    Robbie not close to a " lesser" trainer.
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    Sorry I'm late to the party. Quick answer=...

    Sorry I'm late to the party.

    Quick answer= Sure. Any kind of decent price. Some of these other trainers in here never win it looks like.

    And yes, Robbie is a good friend. Great guy. Hits a golf...
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    I would appreciate any pertinent info down the...

    I would appreciate any pertinent info down the road EZ.

    I don't see any headlines for that stuff very often.

    Thanks .
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    Q. Any thoughts STR on the developments above?...

    Q. Any thoughts STR on the developments above? Thx in advance.


    Yes, I do EZ. Here goes.

    A. I do realize after years of terrible, IMO (but someone please show me how my opinion is incorrect),...
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    Sorry for the delay EZ. Crazy week but all...

    Sorry for the delay EZ.

    Crazy week but all good stuff.
    I will get all caught up over the weekend.:cheers:
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    Q. as far as the race do you think if he was a...

    Q. as far as the race do you think if he was a veteran router that he might've handled that happening to him or at minimum be less affected by it .. I'm talking gathering himself after the break and...
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    A couple of things. 1st. Watch the break and...

    A couple of things.

    1st. Watch the break and you will see that Rosario , in the first 3-4 strides seems to lose his left iron which causes him to bounce his butt on the saddle a couple of times...
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    Geez EZ, if only life was that simple. I'm...

    Geez EZ, if only life was that simple.

    I'm going to try and keep this answer short because it is important to know the right answer.

    I never trained or ran on a synthetic surface. That...
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    No plays for me today Mr GandT. Did not have...

    No plays for me today Mr GandT.
    Did not have enough time to spend on the Bluegrass or SA Derby
    I feel like I have something riding on the Wood . Lol.
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    On paper, you just can't ask for a better setup...

    On paper, you just can't ask for a better setup in here if you are Deterministic. Everything necessary to settle, have a decent trip and fire is all within his reach. Always easier said than done but...
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    I went through the race and I think I really like...

    I went through the race and I think I really like the set up for him. Of course, the biggest challenge will be 2 turns , which represents a whole new situation, from breathing to relax, to stamina...
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    Appreciate that Madison. These names could also...

    Appreciate that Madison.
    These names could also be selected featured names of horses that were nominated a month or two ago when those were due by.
    Not sure though.
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    I'm not a psychologist but have analyzed myself...

    I'm not a psychologist but have analyzed myself in hindsight enough to know a couple things that might fit you as well as me.

    You should not try to compare, IMO, what you bet as a kid to what you...
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    Good to know JBEX. Thank you for that. Real...

    Good to know JBEX. Thank you for that.

    Real glad to see that last work was on point. That tells us he is coming into the race in fine shape.

    Excited to see him run.
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    Sorry I could not address this today. Tomorrow...

    Sorry I could not address this today.
    Tomorrow looks better so far but long weekends tend to push everything around.

    I'll respond ASAP.:grrr:
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    What happened Madison. Did you play him, play...

    What happened Madison. Did you play him, play against him or skip the race?

    I did not see the race but with 2 scratches and the 8 post and especially making the lead from outside in 24, the race...
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    This is a guess but without knowing the horse or...

    This is a guess but without knowing the horse or seeing HOW he has worked, it can't be more than that.

    Since that race, which I did not see in it's entirety , just the last 1/4 mile, but did read...
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    Yes. He really has much to prove to everyone as...

    Yes. He really has much to prove to everyone as to overall availability. Stopping him after this year unless forced to would not give him a full chance unless he went crazy this year. He would need...
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    It amazes me how a 3 other than is not a regular...

    It amazes me how a 3 other than is not a regular event in the book. It used to be about every 10 -12 days both short and long.
    Things are really different from that aspect today.
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    When people ask me what I miss most about the...

    When people ask me what I miss most about the game, it's ultimately the same answer every time. "The people in it".
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    Great story Batt33. BTW, obviously, Your...

    Great story Batt33.

    BTW, obviously, Your cousin knows his way around a horse. The horse gets all hyped up but as soon as you make them think of something else, like that shank, not pain, just...
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    Back in the day it was a standalone condition but...

    Back in the day it was a standalone condition but nowadays maybe it's tied to a 4 other than?

    It will be a very nice race if it's out there. Hopefully if it has a killer in it, it will be KB. But...
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    A race like non winner of $$$ at a mile or more...

    A race like non winner of $$$ at a mile or more since a year ago ( not sure of his Lou. derby date ) or nw at a mile or over since … something like that.
    Be a real solid race like a weak stake but...
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    Being honest, I'm kind of glad. I would love...

    Being honest, I'm kind of glad.

    I would love to see him in another allowance race if there is one.

    I know, I'm babying him.
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    Totally changing the subject and just to show...

    Totally changing the subject and just to show everyone how much the training game has changed since the 70’s and 80’s here are some trainer quotes in the aftermath of the 1987 Marlboro Cup regarding...
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    “probably about 99.99% of my race watching is...

    “probably about 99.99% of my race watching is through a monitor of some sort lol and sure I'd enjoy the spectacle of watching from the clockers stand..also cool to get an idea how things happen over...
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    That 1:03 workout is MUCH better than it looks on...

    That 1:03 workout is MUCH better than it looks on paper. A 3 year old learning the ropes almost assuredly worked in company. When you are trying to do what Clement is doing, every work and sometimes...
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