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Greely Awesome has run a handful of times long and short and lost for maiden tags of between 30 and 62500.
Last race he found a horrible field going long and demolished it running a big number for...

Digging around a little I found out he was the Alberta Horse of the Year and the owner is a woman who is very attached to her horses. Given that I wouldn't expect to see him in for a tag.
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I took a quick look in the book and didn't see any optionals for less than 62K running short etc so if you want to avoid being in for a tag I guess all you can do is enter and hope you avoid some...

I'll comment on a couple of things. As for not being in for a tag,some owners just don't want to risk losing their horse.
This horse won some stakes for this owner and maybe for some sentimental...

I think it's available in the Equibase charts they have on their website.
I get the runup in the data for the software that I use.
As an example of runup affecting times at the first call ,in...

re: wind

I look at a weather report and I try to see flags during post parade, running of the race etc.
It's surprising how few people factor in wind . At Hawthorne, especially during the spring...

I watched the race on my computer and didn't realize TVG talked about after the race. I agree I don't think it got her beat but as you said it's unacceptable.
When I heard about the rider switch I...

speaking of tension on the bit did Sutherland drop the reigns about the 1/16th pole on Game on Dude?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC_l4MA6W_M

The first horse I owned was not athletic at all and very unsure of himself on any wet surface. He would barely go faster than a 2 minute clip on an off track. He needed to feel solid footing...

most people don't like to bet anything other than a fast track so the tracks like to label a track " fast" as quickly as they can so as not to discourage handle for the card

I can only pull stats for leaders at the first call not the 2nd call.
It's generally considered,at least from what I've read and heard, that when the artificial surface heats up speed tends to be...

I know how much of a fan you are of the owner of this horse :laugh:

Statistically speaking, over the last 12 months Leparoux is 18% on the grass and 21% on the dirt.

ONeil is on my short list of the biggest " juicers" in racing. If him having a shot at a Triple Crown shines a light on the underbelly of racing I'm all for it.

MLB, and the NFL etc are apples and oranges when trying to compare it to racing.Racing is asking you to wager on it's game.

Racing needs to be cleaned up.The more attention brought to this subject the better.
Public perception is this is a rigged game.
Ask 100 non or casual racing fans if the game is rigged and see...

It needs to be out there and the more people that see it the better overall for the game down the road.

This is the one time of the year that the general public takes a momentary interest in racing. If I were writing an article on racing and I wanted it to reach the most people, this is when I would...

Drug Oneill had a positive for a horse in the Illinois Derby.Horses aren't "juiced" in just the nickle claiming races.The juice barn I worked for didn't run horses in claiming races.

Sorry make it 10 feet but that's still not much at all

I have the runup at 5 feet

I think you nailed it with it used to being the Flamingo.I think the 7f race was the Bahamas. One thing to also consider when these horses eventually try 2 turns for the first time ( the horses from...

Thanks str, appreciate that.

If I could jump in here, DarkHorse there are 2 good places to visit to that might be an aid in what your're looking for.
Thorograph has their Derby files in the archive section dating back to 1982....

You're welcome. I was in a hurry when I posted and now when I look back at what I posted it might of come off as sort of callous. My condolences

You probably already know but in case you didn't Larry Saumell died a couple of days ago

The first horse I owned was not sure-footed at all and would not run a step on a wet track. He was also not athletic at all so if he encountered any trouble, it was game over for him. He could not...

Hawthorne is one of the tracks most affected by wind I have seen. Once the wind starts to get up around 15-20mph out of the west watch out.

the old adage " the most dangerous person on the backside is an owner with a condition book"

I can't remember specifics of what the owners said but they seemed to blame Billy's drinking.

About a month ago ( I think it was on HRTV) they had a program that profiled the career of Seattle Slew and both sides obviously blamed the other. Watching it I really had to side with Billy Turner.

He began his career in Florida and spends his winters down there now. He has a younger brother riding down there.

Waterford Park now there's a blast from the past.

I'll tell a quick story about rider selection.
Out of nowhere a guy gives my trainer ( 4 horse barn) an horse who had never raced before. For our barn getting a new owner etc was a big deal. The...

I've currently used a program for 4 years. Before that I used Thorograph. I don't know what else to add without sounding like I'm trying to sell it.

There is a great difference in the ability of linemakers. Some are bad like HAW and TUP and some are very good like the NY tracks. Having a good linemaker is important to the public perception of...

I can't add much to what str posted.
I can't speak to the quality of prime power but overall I don't like all-encompassing ratings. You have to learn over time what trainers win off of "suspicious"...

using same criteria but filtering out races taken off the grass

1/9-7/5 38%w 56 %w+p 73%wps ROI .84 .91 .97
1.5-3.4 23% w 41% w+p 57% wps ROI .83 .87 .92

Looking at just under 45K races
horses that had a M/L of 10/1-30/1

when they went off at 1/9-7/5 they won at a rate of 41% for an ROI of $.88/$1.00
when they went off at 1.50-3.40 they won at a...

That was back in the day when Lasix was masking a lot of things and I think that trainer had some ulterior motives other than preventing hemorrhaging. :D Anyway I enjoyed making the trip down...

One of my jobs for that barn was after a race, if the horse wasn't already on the lasix list I would take it to the spit box to get the horse put on the lasix list. The trainer's brother would come...

I thought Glynn stuck around Chicago but maybe he left for awhile and came back. I was 12 when the Labor Day thing went down and some of the timelines etc might be a bit fuzzy. My first trainer had...

There was a Glynn Louviere which was pronounced Glenn, that was Geary's brother. Geary was on the horse with the big lead and Glynn was on the horse that was trying to catch him in the Labor Day...

http://www.heartlandcafe.com/journal/jrnl_50/j50_bm04.htm

I couldn't find much on the Labor day scandal but it get's discussed about a 1/3rd of the way down on this page.
As a meaningless...

I'm an Illinois -bred. I had never been around a horse except as a kid getting a pony ride. My first job on the backside was as a hotwalker for one of the most notorious( think Labor Day betting...

I don't know to what extent you're currently involved in racing, but do you miss the backside? There are days I really really miss it.

Speaking of Campo , a few days ago I watched the CBS broadcast of the '73 Belmont again on Youtube and they had a short paddock interview with him.

I was speaking to their personalities as opposed to their training methods. G Motion seems dignified, reserved etc. Catalano loves to "hold court" in the racing office. It's loud and it's...