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HOnestly this is one of the best in the business...I use this site very regularly on bigger days.

I honestly think he has a better shot than some

Well Joey, if you substitute Intense Holiday for Vicar's in Trouble we are either both going to be happy or both going to be sad. Still looking at stuff though, and post draw will tell me a lot more...

This is such a difficult task to answer. Because for the most part we have no real comparison. Lets use their last 3 starts

CC raced against
Tamarando
Midnight Hawk
Kristo
SchoolofHardKnocks...

OK hart, I will take on the homework.

1. Lets look at the top 5 according to Brisnet Average Class Last 3 rating. this is usually a good indicator at what kind of competition you are running...

Starting to widdle down my list. Spent last night looking at more replays, some interesting things jumping out.

1. WildCat's run in the Florida was impressive, Constitutions was really...

OK, I have to admit. I spent a few hours today looking deeper into my top 12 or so after making some tosses early in the process. And well, WildCat Red is standing out more and more the more homework...

Yuup. Although this has to be the first one to call you new.

Samraat / Uncle Sigh (twice) same as your two from Florida. Only on a much fairer track.

Uh Oh, I agree with something you said!

Its amazing how many of those aren't in the field at all. I have futures on Samraat (32-1) and Intense Holiday (30-1). ANd then I have quite a few futures in Pool 3 with Samraat finishing second in...

I have not heard that confirmed as of yet. Many of the jockeys are still unconfirmed and will be until this weeks workouts shake out a little.

Yeah I just read this as well. Interesting, I like Chitu and think he could make a great miler. But I don't see him in the Derby picture.

Constitution
Cairo Prince
Midnight Hawk

Are all out from my notes.

Derby Preview

Just read that Ring Weekend hasn't worked out at all yet? Looks like we could lose another one. COmmanding Curve on Deck with Bayern in the hole and SI to follow.

Thats great...always nice to see the same people use the same names on other forums.

I would have been off by a couple of words, but this is exactly what I thought I was going to read from you. And you have a valid point if CC was anywhere near the others in CA when they finished. ...

Ouch! Cairo Prince out of the Derby.

Changes a few things for some people....

1. Samraat
2. California Chrome
3. Hoppertunity/Tapiture
4. General A Rod (at this distance)
5. Intense Holiday

Will all be on my ticket before WildCat Red. And don' get me wrong, I think...

Here are the early version. Obviously there is still stuff to come (post draw, Midnight Hawk running this weekend)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56327515/dby0503y.pdf

I think you may be forgetting about General A Rod who did in fact pass WildCat Red. I am also looking at the pedigree and WildCat REd handling the Derby distance.

As far as watching to Holy Bull...

Wow, I tossed both of those out of first. I think either could get up or stay up for 3rd, but I dno't see how either of those two find the winners circle.

WildCat got a great trip and loss to...

OK, I completely get trying to take a shot against the favorite in a 20 horse field, and I get the reasons why you don't like CC. But he is the only Derby contender to run consistantly well in the...

People don't take into account the different tracks enough in handicapping. The evidence is there with Kristo. Now, that being said, it wouldn't surprise me in CC is better than the disadvantage this...

Do you really think they will ship him without working out on the CHurchill dirt? I would be surprised

I woiuldn't totally count out Consituttion, if you look at his pedigree, the whole curse of Apollo really shouldn't play a role. I am not sure he will win the thing, but he is on my medium list and...

Nice to see that some things don't change around here. This place was a great forum a year ago.

Bayern battled some injury was originally pointed toward the San Felipe, but had to move back to this weekend.

Bobby's Kitten has really only raced on turf. he has been a freaking monster on the...

Tapiture still has me thinking. That horse should be coming off three solid wins over good company, if it wasn't for the trip in the Rebel.

Constitution could be the real deal as I don't think he...