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    Trophy CrazyLou's pick for the US Open

    Prelude to the Big Dance
    After winning my second Grand Slam futures pick in a row at the Gentlemen’s singles draw, I won’t delude myself into thinking it will be easy to go for number three. Nothing worthwhile in life is easy, unless you count seducing drunken women to play doctor with you a relatively simple task.

    The SBR posting forum is finally recognizing the genius of my futures picks, this added weight on my shoulders would distract me from finding value if I let it. The fact is, though, I will not be sidetracked. I will not falter because of the pressure or expectations others have bestowed on me. A few days before it all begins, I feel the same calm as I did many years ago while in my mother’s womb, I feel ready, I feel alive, and I feel like if anyone can spot the value in this year’s US Open tournament, it’s me.

    Where’s the Value? Where’s the Flippin’ Value?

    I’m feeling a bit cranky. There are some members of SBR forum that, despite my Grand Slam futures success, question my ability as a tennis handicapper merely because of the fact that some of my selections were of the shorter odds variety.

    Here’s the fact- - it is never easy for anybody to win a championship in individual sports, and it is equally hard for a tennis handicapping evaluator to pick one future and nail it. There are some pretend, want-to-be tennis handicapping evaluators that make 7 futures picks, which is no better than a monkey throwing darts, hoping one of the picks has success.

    What I do is different, and my futures results speak for themselves. If you think it’s as simple as listening to ESPN, picking a short odds player, and cashing a ticket, you’re sorely mistaken, jack.

    We’ll see if my tennis model once again results in making some more dead presidents.

    Roger Federer at 1.09/1

    Without a doubt, Roger Federer is the man to back here. I understand that the squares are buying into the ESPN hype of Rafael Nadal back from injury, how he is going to reclaim his #1 ranking, how he only lost at Rolland Garros because he was really injured. I want to take this moment to thank each and every one of you. Thank you for giving us a better price on Roger Federer. People that have bought up all the stock and drank all the Kool-Aid in the Nadal bandwagon remind me of the kids that always play with the Patriots on Madden PS3. Often these people have no sense of history of the game, overvalue whoever is performing well in the moment, and do not understand the core fundamentals of the game.

    Rafael Nadal is not even in the same vicinity as Roger Federer as a tennis player, yet he is ahead 13-7 in their heads up history. That is something I cannot explain, I consider it merely an anomaly. What makes it special is the fact that 4 of those losses were Grand Slam championship matches.

    If you ever doubted Roger Federer, which I never did, even you would have to concede that the man must have a new lease on life, or his career. He has reclaimed his #1 ranking that he held for years, he has gotten married and had his first child, and has won the last 2 Grand Slams which has catapulted him past Pete Sampras as the winningest player in Grand Slam history. He has won 15. Folks, this is the greatest tennis player that has ever lived. He recently turned 29 years old, is in incredible shape, and has all of the (unnecessary) momentum headed into this event. I say unnecessary because a player of Federer’s class does not need to go into a Slam on a roll. He understands the mindset he must have, he understands his opponents, they do not call this man the ‘maestro’ for no reason. He’s the best of the best, the best in the world, and he’s going to once again show you why.

    I am placing my two consecutive Grand Slam ATP future wins on the line and going with Roger Federer at 1.09/1 (the line courtesy of Pinnacle Sports), let the chips fall where they may.

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    Wow. What a surprising development. The fact that you called this value, once again shows why you put the Crazy in CrazyLou. GL Lou with your big longshot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post
    Wow. What a surprising development. The fact that you called this value, once again shows why you put the Crazy in CrazyLou. GL Lou with your big longshot!
    Do you go to the track and pick the biggest longshot on the board?

    Do you play NFL futures and pick a team that you don't necessarily think will win, but think the # has value?

    If I wanted to make money by being able to hedge out in the quarters or semis, I could easily do that.

    If I don't care to do that, my strategy for picking the winner of the field, is, uh, picking the player I actually think will win.

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    I understand picking the winner is obviously the goal, but a near even favorite does not provide value when they have to win 7 matches to cash in. If it's a one & done setting, sure Even odds as in one horse race can be value. Don't get me wrong, I'm gonna lay some down on Serena and she's the favorite on the ladies side, but at least she yields more than a 2:1 return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyLou View Post
    If I don't care to do that, my strategy for picking the winner of the field, is, uh, picking the player I actually think will win.
    So, here we have it ladies and gentlemen. CrazyLou has finally revealed the workings of his system - the picking winners system.

    Louie, the really sad thing is that you're working at SBR. You work alongside people from who you can learn so much about handicapping and the (pretty simple) statistical side of sportsbetting. But instead you choose to follow the picking winners system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganchrow View Post
    For an advantage bettor wagering shouldn't be about "picking winners" per se but rather about associating probabilities with various outcomes. Equipped with these initial "prior" probability estimates, advantage bettors should then utilize market evidence (generally in the form of current broad-based market prices) to infer "posterior" probabilities by a process known as "Bayesian inference". These posterior probabilities, which when taken in conjunction with available prices (that, depending upon your bookie, may differ from the broad-based market price), to determine edge and then ultimately bet size.

    That's it. That's the entire (quantitative) advantage betting game in a nutshell. Sure, sometimes the "model price" might itself only be a function of the "market price" (such that the posterior and prior probabilities are equivalent), such as in the case of say, betting Bowl underdog of 7+ points prior to New Year's (a strategy which, by the way, I'm by no means way endorsing), but the above is really the essence of advantage betting.

    Advantage sports betting is all about placing +EV bets while keeping tight control over the reins of risk (implying that -EV are occasionally in order); that the bets' outcomes happen to be based on sporting events is, at least for me, little more than an afterthought. Yeah, so a bottom of the 9th inning grand slam with no outs happened to cost me a visitor +1.5 bet ... but even if I actually knew that, my response could be only, "So what? Shit just sometimes happens." But you know what ... sometimes it happens the other way, too.

    So concern yourself with trying to find coin-flips at +110 and just ignore the butterflies and slamming doors. You shouldn't in general be trying to "predict winners", you should be trying to estimate probabilities.

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    good pick.......federer just cant be beat right now. if there is one thing i learned, its not to go against a player on a hot streak....plus im sure he is thinking he has to pad his grand slam wins record. lets see how it turns out
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    The SBR posting forum is finally recognizing the genius of my futures picks, this added weight on my shoulders would distract me from finding value if I let it. The fact is, though, I will not be sidetracked. I will not falter because of the pressure or expectations others have bestowed on me. A few days before it all begins, I feel the same calm as I did many years ago while in my mother’s womb, I feel ready, I feel alive, and I feel like if anyone can spot the value in this year’s US Open tournament, it’s me.
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    I actually wanted to bet against Nadal, but it's -875 on him not winning. So much for all the squares buying him down.

    Federer is a square play here.

    If I picked one player to win the US Open, would I take Federer? Probably.

    At those odds? Hell no. There's no value in that.
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    Yeah I looked at that Nadal prop too. The other one I liked was going against Venus to win, but that was around -900 I think.
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    Federer will not win the US open mark it down in stone

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    fed will win again , i disagree everyone is in shape and playing their bestat the open, alot seem to play their best in nov, dec or april for some reason, fed peeks at the us open
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    why is Nadal's first match tomorrow?
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    do you like clijsters tomorrow over marion bartoli, a top 20 player, she won in straight sets in cincinatti, kim is - 275
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    Betting Any one player will not win is pretty easy capping unless you are throwing down some serious money. Good luck all.

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    I think Federer will beat himself if he loses. That is all I can say. I haven't picked any matches.

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    Start the countdown to Lou kissing his own ass. Allow me to write it for him.

    I've now picked the last three winners in Grand Slams. I can't hear what any of you are saying about me being wrong that Del Potro would win a set today as I cannot hear anything over my own tears as I stare at Roger Federer. This was probably the most difficult pick anyone has ever made in the history of gambling to pick the guy who always wins Grand Slams. He recently turned 29 years old, is in incredible shape ....
    Your bet has been rescinded because you did not know your stalkee's correct age. This is the biggest disgrace ever to the game of tennis. CrazyLou not knowing Roger Federer's age. August 8, 1981. 28. This is scandalous and I call for Lou's immediate impeachment.


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    Lou is lucky that Federer has that extra year.
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    DelPo might not be done just yet. Broke Fed at love. Can he hold his serve now and force a 5th set? Wowza.
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    Del Potro up 4-1 in the fifth set
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Federer will not win the US open mark it down in stone
    yea me tennis pro
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    At least JinxL had the balls to post his picks.

    Oh wait, you had the balls to show your face in daylight.

    You win.


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    DelPotro just had all the right tools tonite ... it was yet a great pic Lou.
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    Del Potro was better, despite what Lou said
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    It went 5 sets so it's almost as good as a W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    Del Potro was better, despite what Lou said
    He was better today.

    Even Del Potro conceded he had a lot of work to do to "be like you", when addressing Roger Federer.

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    yeah, he was better today. I'm going to quote you on what you said before the match.
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    You lost Lou. Your "streak" is over.



    Yes, I am here to bury you because DelPo was one of my futures.
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