[Sport_Fish]

Another parlay tonight which I like:

Raonic + Fish + Gasquet + Roddick (-115)

I feel confident in all 4 players in this spot and they should get this one done

[Bbobbi]

tailing thanks for your insight on my 5-teamer. I ended up hitting the 5 teamer and 3 teamer

[Sport_Fish]

tailing thanks for your insight on my 5-teamer. I ended up hitting the 5 teamer and 3 teamer

Nice, congrats. Good think Dolgo decided to wake up that game else he was done after getting smacked the opening set

Let's hope these 4 cash tonight

[Sport_Fish]

i have a 3/4 overlap with you, only thing that worries me is roddick, but he always worries me.

Yup I think Roddick is likely the weakest pick but I went purely with the numbers on that and he's 9-0 H2H, which would indicate he should get the win here.

[MUHerd37]

I wish Roddick would just retire. Defending champion is gonna get knocked out in the first round by Malisse? Retire!

[SFGiants93]

Yup I think Roddick is likely the weakest pick but I went purely with the numbers on that and he's 9-0 H2H, which would indicate he should get the win here.

Nobody beats Malisse 10 times in a row.

Seriously, Roddick will put up a good fight. This one is far from over.

[apurvaas]

What ya think Fish?

Risking 1U (300) to win 761

Richard Gasquet ML vs Igor Kunitsyn
Mardy Fish ML vs Albano Olivetti
Nicolas Almagro ML vs Federico Del Bonis
Caroline Wozniacki ML vs Ana Ivanovic
Agnieszka Radwanska ML vs vs Sabine Lisicki

[Sport_Fish]

What ya think Fish?

Risking 1U (300) to win 761

Richard Gasquet ML vs Igor Kunitsyn
Mardy Fish ML vs Albano Olivetti
Nicolas Almagro ML vs Federico Del Bonis
Caroline Wozniacki ML vs Ana Ivanovic
Agnieszka Radwanska ML vs vs Sabine Lisicki

I like all 5. But tbh, can't entirely trust Wozniacki - shes like the Dolgopolov of WTA. If she's serious about this tournament and stays focused, will probably win in straight sets. But can easily lose focus and choke to Ivanovic. Either way GL

[innn]

Wozniacki has no ******* forehand man if Ivanovic keeps her errors in check will beat Carol

[apurvaas]

I like all 5. But tbh, can't entirely trust Wozniacki - shes like the Dolgopolov of WTA. If she's serious about this tournament and stays focused, will probably win in straight sets. But can easily lose focus and choke to Ivanovic. Either way GL

I have confidence in woz but worried about randwanska

[Sport_Fish]

Yeah that's one's kinda tough too but I expect Radwanka to pull through

[showtiime]

you realize roddick had a bung ankle right? Wouldn't touch roddick against any scrub, regardless of x-man's terrible form, also coming back from that hamstring injury.

BTW, comparing woz to dolgo is about as ludicrous as it gets.

[Sport_Fish]

you realize roddick had a bung ankle right? Wouldn't touch roddick against any scrub, regardless of x-man's terrible form, also coming back from that hamstring injury.

BTW, comparing woz to dolgo is about as ludicrous as it gets.

Not really, they are classic examples of players choking to inferior opponents on any given day.

[showtiime]

Not really, they are classic examples of players choking to inferior opponents on any given day.

Yeah ok, sorry but you must've just started watching tennis this year.
This is a massive generalization and could be applied to just about any player in the WTA, Woz is one of the few that you wouldn't necessarily put in this category, she's dominated the tour the past 2 years, yes she chokes in slams, basically because she is a pusher and you need a weapon to go deep in / win slams, so typically she gets blown off the court by better players around the business end.

Dolgo is a prime example of your point of losing to scrubs at the drop of a hat. Wozniacki is the complete opposite. If you would like to elaborate on your point, feel free.
Someone with 18 singles titles at the age of 21 does not 'choke to inferior opponents' anywhere near as much as your making out, certainly no where near as much as Dolgo.
Don't get me wrong - not defending her here as I hate her game and she was a disgrace to the WTA at #1, but get your facts straight before belching out comments that make no sense.

Sorry buddy, might seem a bit harsh there, just saw your statement and had to pull you up.
Enjoy your chalk as hell parlays.

[apurvaas]

Any input? TIA

Risk 5U (1500) to win 2053

Mardy Fish ML vs Albano Olivetti
Nicolas Almagro ML vs Federico Del Bonis
John Isner ML vs Donald Young
Milos Raonic ML vs Sergiy Stakhovsky
M.Mirnyi/D.Nestor -ML vs R.Harrison/D.Kudla

[Sport_Fish]

Yeah ok, sorry but you must've just started watching tennis this year.
This is a massive generalization and could be applied to just about any player in the WTA, Woz is one of the few that you wouldn't necessarily put in this category, she's dominated the tour the past 2 years, yes she chokes in slams, basically because she is a pusher and you need a weapon to go deep in / win slams, so typically she gets blown off the court by better players around the business end.

Dolgo is a prime example of your point of losing to scrubs at the drop of a hat. Wozniacki is the complete opposite. If you would like to elaborate on your point, feel free.
Someone with 18 singles titles at the age of 21 does not 'choke to inferior opponents' anywhere near as much as your making out, certainly no where near as much as Dolgo.
Don't get me wrong - not defending her here as I hate her game and she was a disgrace to the WTA at #1, but get your facts straight before belching out comments that make no sense.

Ok well one word that I missed in my comment which may have lead u to say many things here is 'capable.' What I meant was these two players are capable of losing to an inferior opponent on any given day. Never said they are bad players or anything of that sort. And sure your knowledge of tennis history may very well surpass mine, but I stand by my statement as is relates to sports betting. Main reason being, these two players are nearly always juiced heavy (because of the huge general public love) which does not accurately reflect their game-play due to factors such as 'choking,' if u will. And the reason I bought this point up initially was because I realized people were using Woz as part of parlays and I simply disagreed because I see no value in paying such a heavy price on players that aren't always predictable. Sure, my statement seems wrong now because they both won but again, and I actually thought they would win, but just don't see it being profitable in the long-run with that juice.

And you would be a fool to think that consistency does not matter when capping this sport and how heavily it reflects the value you get on your line.

Enjoy your chalk as hell parlays.

Oh believe me sir you do not wanna go there. I know you sharp tennis cappers don't play these but all you need to know is that even by just playing a few of these in the past couple years, I have done more than very well for my financial well-being

[apurvaas]

Oh believe me sir you do not wanna go there. I know you sharp tennis cappers don't play these but all you need to know is that even by just playing a few of these in the past couple years, I have done more than very well for my financial well-being

[Sport_Fish]

Any input? TIA

Risk 5U (1500) to win 2053

Mardy Fish ML vs Albano Olivetti
Nicolas Almagro ML vs Federico Del Bonis
John Isner ML vs Donald Young
Milos Raonic ML vs Sergiy Stakhovsky
M.Mirnyi/D.Nestor -ML vs R.Harrison/D.Kudla

Don't know much about the doubles so can't say anything there.

But I do like all the singles. I would be more than surprised to see any of those 4 lose.

[showtiime]

Ok well one word that I missed in my comment which may have lead u to say many things here is 'capable.' What I meant was these two players are capable of losing to an inferior opponent on any given day. Never said they are bad players or anything of that sort.

You've basically just contradicted yourself by playing the parlay in the OP.
Essentially what you're saying is someone as consistent as Wozniacki (very) is much less trustworthy (so much to the point you compare her to the most unreliable favorite in the ATP tour) than - an injured Roddick, slumping fish, head case gasquet & raonic - although he seems unbreakable at the moment so he gets a pass. but the others? Cmon, they all lose to 'inferior' opponents much much more than her.

And sure your knowledge of tennis history may very well surpass mine, but I stand by my statement as is relates to sports betting. Main reason being, these two players are nearly always juiced heavy (because of the huge general public love) which does not accurately reflect their game-play due to factors such as 'choking,' if u will. And the reason I bought this point up initially was because I realized people were using Woz as part of parlays and I simply disagreed because I see no value in paying such a heavy price on players that aren't always predictable.

Ok, once again this doesn't make sense, you're factoring in choking yet your parlay includes Gasquet?
Anyone with even limited tennis knowledge knows he is one of the biggest chokers on the ATP tour.
Once again I'd like you to point out occasions (as far back as you want to go) where - in your mind Wozniacki has choked so much / been so unreliable these past couple of years that you're comparing her to the most unbackable favorite in the game.

Yes ok Sure, my statement seems wrong now because they both won but again, and I actually thought they would win, but just don't see it being profitable in the long-run with that juice.

You're complaining about juice when the first 3 selections in your parlay are all roughly -1000.00? They don't get 'general public love'? Of course they do.
Also you're kinda missing the point here, I'm pulling you up on comparing Dolgopolov & Wozniacki's consistency levels, there couldn't be more disparity between the two.

And you would be a fool to think that consistency does not matter when capping this sport and how heavily it reflects the value you get on your line.

Of course I would be a fool, just to confirm, name 2 players on the entire WTA tour more consistent than Wozniacki. You don't hold the 1# spot for that long (without winning a slam) and be graded with the same inconsistency level as Alexandr Dolgopolov.

& again I'm sounding like a Wozniacki fanboy here, as stated in my previous post, I'm quite the opposite, but when someone makes a ridiculous comment with no facts behind it then I can't help but to counter it.

Oh believe me sir you do not wanna go there. I know you sharp tennis cappers don't play these but all you need to know is that even by just playing a few of these in the past couple years, I have done more than very well for my financial well-being

Thats fine, everyone bets their own way, I was just taking a sneaky little shot, no offense meant. Trust me I play parlays as well, just don't play them like you, once again - each to their own.

[Sport_Fish]

You've basically just contradicted yourself by playing the parlay in the OP.
Essentially what you're saying is someone as consistent as Wozniacki (very) is much less trustworthy (so much to the point you compare her to the most unreliable favorite in the ATP tour) than - an injured Roddick, slumping fish, head case gasquet & raonic - although he seems unbreakable at the moment so he gets a pass. but the others? Cmon, they all lose to 'inferior' opponents much much more than her.

Ok, once again this doesn't make sense, you're factoring in choking yet your parlay includes Gasquet?
Anyone with even limited tennis knowledge knows he is one of the biggest chokers on the ATP tour.
Once again I'd like you to point out occasions (as far back as you want to go) where - in your mind Wozniacki has choked so much / been so unreliable these past couple of years that you're comparing her to the most unbackable favorite in the game.

You're complaining about juice when the first 3 selections in your parlay are all roughly -1000.00? They don't get 'general public love'? Of course they do.
Also you're kinda missing the point here, I'm pulling you up on comparing Dolgopolov & Wozniacki's consistency levels, there couldn't be more disparity between the two.

Of course I would be a fool, just to confirm, name 2 players on the entire WTA tour more consistent than Wozniacki. You don't hold the 1# spot for that long (without winning a slam) and be graded with the same inconsistency level as Alexandr Dolgopolov.

& again I'm sounding like a Wozniacki fanboy here, as stated in my previous post, I'm quite the opposite, but when someone makes a ridiculous comment with no facts behind it then I can't help but to counter it.

Well its obvious this discussion can go on forever, so I'll try to get to the point and summarize everything. Your primary objection seems to be the comparison of Wozniacki with Dolgo. Ok so I'll give you that, the inconsistency of Dolgo does not reflect Woz who, according you ur knowledge, has displayed marvelous levels of consistency. My statement is likely incorrect then, but what I pretty much wanted to say was I wouldn't play Woz at that price in this tournament against this opponent at this time - same case for Dolgo.

Which brings me to the next point - I obviously have layed heavier juice than that of Woz or Dolg. but its been according to research, numbers, current form, and to some level instinct. And the last of those is a key factor because I know many cappers will choose to not play a team or player even if the stats heavily indicate, or vice versa. And this thread is a primarily example of that - esp when you mentioned Gasquet. Obviously his history suggests 'choking' as part of his game but I overlooked that at this time simply based on past few matches. And all this is simply the bias that comes into effect when your capping. And every capper has a different bias - with mine clearly being more towards different players than yours. And this bias is not always rational and can be based on prior experience with betting and/or simply witnessing just a few (wrong) matches.

So bottom and line, and to be clear, I am partly agreeing to what you had to say but just wanted to point out a few areas where I believe you may have misunderstood my intentions.

Thats fine, everyone bets their own way, I was just taking a sneaky little shot, no offense meant. Trust me I play parlays as well, just don't play them like you, once again - each to their own.

I agree, to each their own. And if your betting method is producing better results than my heavy chalk plays, believe me I am v.happy because it means your stealing loads and loads of F'n cash from Vegas.

[Sport_Fish]

Any input? TIA

Risk 5U (1500) to win 2053

Mardy Fish ML vs Albano Olivetti
Nicolas Almagro ML vs Federico Del Bonis
John Isner ML vs Donald Young
Milos Raonic ML vs Sergiy Stakhovsky
M.Mirnyi/D.Nestor -ML vs R.Harrison/D.Kudla

That sucks man...Fish got a spanking today from Olivetti wow, unbelievable! No way Fish was gonna come back the 3rd set with damn Albino serving 9,022,441 aces.

Get em' next time Lot more tennis next couple days and I think we have seen our share of upsets in the current tours and hope the worse is over.

[apurvaas]

putting another one for same amount to cover
what you think?

Nicolas Almagro ML vs Federico Del Bonis
John Isner ML vs Donald Young
Milos Raonic ML vs Sergiy Stakhovsky
M.Mirnyi/D.Nestor -ML vs R.Harrison/D.Kudla

[Sport_Fish]

Not the biggest fan of doubling up or recovering losses but if you can afford to lose another 5 units, I'd def go for it. Law of averages would indicate that no more upsets should happen in the next 4 heavy favourites

[apurvaas]

Not the biggest fan of doubling up or recovering losses but if you can afford to lose another 5 units, I'd def go for it. Law of averages would indicate that no more upsets should happen in the next 4 heavy favourites

playing from other tennis wins only! If I loose this one, I will be down $300 (1U) out of pocket for tennis! Fish was strong play man but that was unbelievable loss.. Olivetti suck