[bigboydan]

There are plenty of books that deserve more recognition actually, however I like it better this way. Because I like hidden gems.

[RogueJuror]

1. 88royal
2. 961
3. sbobet
4. 188bet
5. mansion88

asia

[Mudcat]

I've always felt ABC Islands was worthy of more recognition.

The title of this thread says need more recognition. Judging by their actions, they don't need it. They barely promote at all.

I don't know their current rating. It's probably reasonably good but they aren't on the recommended list and they don't get talked about much.

So that's what came to mind for me.

[Justin7]

I like ABC... I play there myself. They are a must-have out with their teasers.

[wastedbum]

There are plenty of books that deserve more recognition actually, however I like it better this way. Because I like hidden gems.

geeez... share it...

[bigboydan]

geeez... share it...

BetPop is a hidden gem sir.

[Al Masters]

BBD, question,

They have a 4.5xrollover and you must keep your money there for 30days.
Is the 30day money part standard ,do the big boys have this must leave money
in account for 30 days policy?

[wastedbum]

BetPop is a hidden gem sir.

very much hidden.. haven't heard of the site. Where did you find out about them?

[pimike]

Are they leaving with the other sister books of youwager?

[frostno98]

BBD, question,

They have a 4.5xrollover and you must keep your money there for 30days.
Is the 30day money part standard ,do the big boys have this must leave money
in account for 30 days policy?

Only 30 days for what you initially deposit, if you take a bonus. If you put in 500 you'll have to wait 30 days to take it out, but you can take out anything you profit above that amount at anytime. It's clearly laid out on fine print on their site.

[bigboydan]

very much hidden.. haven't heard of the site. Where did you find out about them?

There official name is PayOffsPlus sir.

[pimike]

Only 30 days for what you initially deposit, if you take a bonus. If you put in 500 you'll have to wait 30 days to take it out, but you can take out anything you profit above that amount at anytime. It's clearly laid out on fine print on their site.

youwager will let u pull out winnings above deposit and half of any bonus taken.

pluss free payout every 30 days

[mtneer1212]

BlackDog -- nothing but a positive experience for me. Top rate customer service, quick payouts.

[bigboydan]

youwager will let u pull out winnings above deposit and half of any bonus taken.

pluss free payout every 30 days

Lets not forget about that 30 or 60 day hold they put on your funds though Mike.

[frostno98]

youwager will let u pull out winnings above deposit and half of any bonus taken.

pluss free payout every 30 days

Yeah but youwager doesn't offer higher parlay odds and cheaper teasers. Your account also has to be initially registered at betpop to receive the parlay benefits. So if you joined youwager first, your going to have to ask CS to setup another account with betpop.

[SBR_John]

As tough as it is for the offshores these days I think it is especially important this year to stay with the A-, A or better yet the A+'s. Establish a good relation with a strong book and pick winners and get paid.

[JoeMama51981]

One of the smaller ones that I use is ezbets. Nothing but good things to say about them. They now have free fedex payouts once a month. So when you make a withdrawal via a check you'll have it in 2 or 3 days. May be a longer time than you'd like but you ALWAYS get it!

-decent bonus when you sign up or re-up.
-discount VIG specials.
-Good lines.

[smitch124]

I like ABC... I play there myself. They are a must-have out with their teasers.

Justin, have you ever read the book Smart Money by Michael Konik??

[smitch124]

Justin, have you ever read the book Smart Money by Michael Konik??

The reason I ask; at the end of the book there was some reference to teasers and how they may be better plays than in the past because results as a whole have fallen closer to the the lines. I was wondering if you had read this part of the above book, or have any comments about teasers and any recent changes in their value.

[dwaechte]

The reason I ask; at the end of the book there was some reference to teasers and how they may be better plays than in the past because results as a whole have fallen closer to the the lines. I was wondering if you had read this part of the above book, or have any comments about teasers and any recent changes in their value.

Interesting.

[bhien]

1. 88royal
2. 961
3. sbobet
4. 188bet
5. mansion88

asia

i go for 188bet cos this one I use
fast dp fast wd fast winnings eh.
no hassle.

any suggestion for another bookie similar to them? i want to try also.

[RogueJuror]

i go for 188bet cos this one I use
fast dp fast wd fast winnings eh.
no hassle.

any suggestion for another bookie similar to them? i want to try also.

try 12bet.com , it's being molded after 188.

[juzgotlucky]

12bet.com oh please stop me if i will try this and check their site and like it... it will be an additional to my bookies list.... hehe i agree i never had a problem using mansion and 188bet too... and hopefull will continue that way.

[wastedbum]

try 12bet.com , it's being molded after 188.

guess i need to start exploring...

[bhien]

try 12bet.com , it's being molded after 188.

thank you for the suggestion guys..
so, are they owned by same company?

[RogueJuror]

so, are they owned by same company?

No they are not.

[bhien]

No they are not.

ok thank you, qwill do try this one as well..bets bets and more bets

[juzgotlucky]

yeah more books more winnings and lost hahaha jusk kidding.. i will still stick from what i got now... 12bet.com -- yeah this is also okay to try.. I like 188bet website more but i will get used to 12bet.com site too ...

btw, do you have an alter site of 12bet.com because having a hrd time accessing their site sometimes...

[wastedbum]

yeah more books more winnings and lost hahaha jusk kidding.. i will still stick from what i got now... 12bet.com -- yeah this is also okay to try.. I like 188bet website more but i will get used to 12bet.com site too ...

btw, do you have an alter site of 12bet.com because having a hrd time accessing their site sometimes...

also tried 12bet.com, seems like they have a problem with their site.

[Kaoru]

also tried 12bet.com, seems like they have a problem with their site.

try 12bopan.com and 12wang.com, got the alternative sites from a chinese forum

also they go down for maintenance once a while per week (30mins-1 hour), not sure why

[juzgotlucky]

Its good now I never had a problem accessing their site.