[Frank]

Is there a standard rule for how many sets must be completed for a wager to stand when a player retires?

Or is every book different and have different rules?

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Several categories, check here:

http://www.rpoints.com/bb/viewtopic....=asc&start=277


Edit: sorry forgot, you'll need to be a forum member to view. Basically it's a list of all bookies, with their rules for voiding. They split into categories depending on what's needed for the bet to be valid: ball served, one set completed, two sets (rare, but includes pinnies/greek/betdaq), or match completed.

[SBR Lou]

I've read some different rules depending the book, in general 2 complete sets would be your ideal situation Frank, or else it would be a no action regardless of who advances.

[Frank]

Several categories, check here:

http://www.rpoints.com/bb/viewtopic....=asc&start=277


Edit: sorry forgot, you'll need to be a forum member to view. Basically it's a list of all bookies, with their rules for voiding. They split into categories depending on what's needed for the bet to be valid: ball served, one set completed, two sets (rare, but includes pinnies/greek/betdaq), or match completed.

Thanks

Thats an impressive list

I will keep that handy

[Frank]

Damn I have had 4 bets so far this tourney that had players retire and I have lost all the ones losing and had no action on all the ones winning because of the different rules.

Gasquet up 2 sets today but I played it at a full match book.

[bigboydan]

I remember a lot of books changed their tennis rules on retirements and rain delays back in 2005 range, and if I recall correctly. It was prompted by all those rain delays at the U.S. Open that year.

[daggerkobe]

Bodog requires the match to be completed, no exceptions. They also have a 72 hour completion rule, meaning if the match is rain delayed and does not finish within 72 hours, it's voided. This rule actually helped me out last year at Wimbledon. Had Canas big and he lost but took 73 hours to finish due to all the rain delays. They first graded as a loss but I reminded them of this rule and they refunded my money.

I believe at 5Dimes, matches are official after the first set.

[daggerkobe]

Just checked and Bodog no longer has the 72 hour rule.

[LT Profits]

I think the consensus right now is 2 full sets, although there are obviously exceptions. It used to be that the consensus was one set, but that changed after the Davydenko "fix".

[vanman]

the only 2 i can think of that are 2 sets are pinny and the greek,the rest are a mix of 1 point,1 set and full match.

[Frank]

I think the consensus right now is 2 full sets, although there are obviously exceptions. It used to be that the consensus was one set, but that changed after the Davydenko "fix".

That is what I thought LT but we are wrong.

Hardly any books use 2 sets.

Here is the list from the link that HEEEEHAWW posted:



edit: ADVICE where rules differ:
to minimise potential losses and maximise potential gains:
- bet on outsiders at bookies where bets are more likely to stand (eg no1 ball served),
- and favourites at bookies where bets are more likely to be voided (eg no4 match completed)

1. Ball Served
In the event of a match starting but not being completed, the player progressing to the next round will be deemed the winner:
3Bwin
Ascotsports
Astrabet
Bet1128
Betandwin
Bet-at-home (Betole)
Betclick
Bets4all
Blue Square
Carib
Carib UK
Coral Eurobet
Expekt
Fonbet
Globet
Goldbet
Goldvictory (1 point)
Intertops
Interwetten
Jetbull
Ladbrokes
Linesmaker
Playit
Sportfanatik
SportingbetUSA
Sports
Sportsbook
Sportsbookillustrated
Sportstab
Stryyke (1 rally/point)
Superbook
Unitedbet **Note - 1 Game must be completed
Wall Street Super Book (WSSB)
Wetten-Schwechat
Winamax
Worldbet

2. Set Completed
In the event of a match being awarded to a player before the full number of sets have been played, match bets will stand on the player officialy going through to the next round, provided at least one (1) set has been played:
5 Dimes
Bet19
Bet-and-game
Betfair
Betfred
Betmate
BetUK
BGbet
Eurosportwetten
Extrabet
Gameday
Mansion
Skybet
Sportingbet
Sportingodds
Sunderlands
Totesport
Unibet
VIP
WBX

3. Two Sets Completed
In the event of a match being awarded to a player before the full number of sets have been played, match bets will stand on the player officialy going through to the next round, provided at least two (2) sets have been played:
Bet Jamaica
Betdaq
Pinnacle
Olympic/thegreek

4. Match Completed
In the event of a match starting but not being completed, all match bets will be void:
10Bet
188Bet
24HPoker
Admiral
Bet24
Bet365 (specifically says unless a player is disqualified rather than injured)
Betabet
Betboo
Betcris
Betdirect
Betinternet
Betlads
Betsafe
Betsson
Betterbet
Bettingstar24
Betway
Bodog
Boylesports
Canbet
Centrebet
Danebets
Diamond
Easybets
Gamebookers
IASbet
Jaxx
Jokerbets
Lasseters
Mansion88
Nordicbet
Paddy Power
Partybets
Pointbet
Scandic
Sean Graham
Sportingbet Australia
SportOdds
SportsBet Australia
Sportsinteraction
Stan James
Stanleybet
Super Soccer
Sunmaker
Victor Chandler
Vierklee
Wauwbet
William Hill
Winunited
WITEuro

5. Set Betting special rules - if a player retires after the 1st set then set betting wagers will be settled as if the opponent won the remaining sets (eg. Player A wins 1st set and retires in 2nd, Player B is deemed to have won 3-1).
Unibet

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Ladbrokes seem to be the only high stakes bookie left who still work on ball served. Kinda asking for trouble in the current climate.

[LT Profits]

Sorry guys. I guess I was under that impression because besides 5 Dimes, my other outs are 2 sets.