[R3Sports]

Are they under the same mangement?

Which would you go with?

[durito]

i'd use a book that doesn't steal from people

try one these:

greek
betjm
wsex
matchbook
legendz

[ShamsWoof10]

i'd use a book that doesn't steal from people

try one these:

greek
betjm
wsex
matchbook
legendz

How are they A rated but take 4 weeks for payouts..?

Like I said don't listen to these jerkoffs... If I was you I would listen to someone who has and is still playing there...

Here is how you know these jerkoffs don't know what they are talking about... The first two on dipsh*t's list are the same family and so are the second two... He listed 5 but only gave you three differant ones...

This is like sayng ..try on of these:

Sportsbook.com
Linesmaker.com
BookMaker.com
DSI.com
The Pig.

The answer to your question is YES they are the same...

[durito]

sad and pathetic

[ShamsWoof10]

sad and pathetic

Yeah ...yeah... How about that answer now please...

[durito]

Every book has issues with the US laws -- including sportsbook.com.

Not every book blatantly steals from winning players. If you are a loser, sportsbook.com/linesmaker, etc are great places to play.

Nowhere did I say the places i listed weren't affiliated. Here some more that aren't (that also don't steal from winners):

Pinnacle
5Dimes
Jazz
Grande


I got a 5 figure withdraw from WSEX the other day in one day.

[SBR Lou]

Every book has issues with the US laws -- including sportsbook.com.

Not every book blatantly steals from winning players. If you are a loser, sportsbook.com/linesmaker, etc are great places to play.

Nowhere did I say the places i listed weren't affiliated. Here some more that aren't (that also don't steal from winners):

Pinnacle
5Dimes
Jazz
Grande


I got a 5 figure withdraw from WSEX the other day in one day.

Can you show that Linesmaker has "stolen from winning players" if there was no bonus abuse or correlated parlay against their TOS taking place?

Just the other day a poster ripped me apart for recommending them to meet someones specific needs, claiming that they stole from him, and then later he confessed to abusing bonuses at not one, not two, but THREE sister sites.

[durito]

Sales agents tell players during the sign up process that each book is a separate entity, is not affiliated with other brands, and that bonuses and accounts with different sportsbook.com-hosted brands are allowed. The sportsbook.com group's risk management department audits winning accounts looking for reasons to confiscate the amount of money the player has won through its time with the book.

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[SBR Lou]

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When I say abusing bonuses, I don't simply meaning legitimately taking them and rolling them over as needed. I mean abusing them. Betting them against one another, taking away any risk and trying to clear however many bucks from the bonus at one of the sites.

I specifically asked Linesmaker when I signed up and mentioned everything I've read at SBR, I told them I'd taken bonuses at superbook, they stated the only people who got in trouble were those who intentionally bet bonuses and free plays against each other at multiple sister sites.

[Santo]

When I say abusing bonuses, I don't simply meaning legitimately taking them and rolling them over as needed. I mean abusing them. Betting them against one another, taking away any risk and trying to clear however many bucks from the bonus at one of the sites.

I specifically asked Linesmaker when I signed up and mentioned everything I've read at SBR, I told them I'd taken bonuses at superbook, they stated the only people who got in trouble were those who intentionally bet bonuses and free plays against each other at multiple sister sites.

Depends how they define trouble. They've definitely closed accounts where that was not the case.

[ShamsWoof10]

Depends how they define trouble. They've definitely closed accounts where that was not the case.

It's quite simple... Until I see a case reported by SBR about a player abusing bonuses against a book then I will consider SBR's word to have SOME value.. As of now they are in it for themselves...

Why else would someone need THREE F*CKIN' ACCOUNTS at the same book...? THEY HAVE THE EXACT SAME LINES!!!! I bet max. bets and I don't need three accounts there... I highly doubt any of you tools need three accounts legitimately...

SOOOO..... anyone who has had multiple accounts at these sister sites... please tell me WHY you need multiple accounts at books that have the SAME LINES..? I think there are a few posters I will call out personally to this question if no one "CHIMES" in...

FACT: I have been playing there for two years with no issues...

FACT: I get reload bonuses EVERY time I reload on thurs. dispite my account being a winning account... I have asked them about this and they said I have a right to the bonus as long as I don't abuse them...

[Bill Dozer]

Linesmaker uses the same front line of customer service as Sportsbook.com. The difference is when Sportsbook.com's folks make the decision to steal money, Linemaker mgt., if notified, will reverse the decision. This has happened a handful of times in the past year. If you are a forum/SBR reader you are in much better shape as a Linesmaker user than the usual Sportsbook.comer.

[gambleballs]

So, do they clearly define bonus abuse somewhere? If i have gotten bonuses from sportsbetting.com, betusa, superbook, and cleared them all, and then sign up at linesmaker.com and claim their bonus, is this OK? I wouldn't be using multiple bonuses at the same time or betting both sides of anything.

[ShamsWoof10]

Linesmaker uses the same front line of customer service as Sportsbook.com. The difference is when Sportsbook.com's folks make the decision to steal money, Linemaker mgt., if notified, will reverse the decision. This has happened a handful of times in the past year. If you are a forum/SBR reader you are in much better shape as a Linesmaker user than the usual Sportsbook.comer.

The differance is minimal to none...

Hey Bill.. any idea why someone would have OR NEED three accounts with this family of books..????????

Maybe HHog or DrunkinL would know...

So, do they clearly define bonus abuse somewhere? If i have gotten bonuses from sportsbetting.com, betusa, superbook, and cleared them all, and then sign up at linesmaker.com and claim their bonus, is this OK? I wouldn't be using multiple bonuses at the same time or betting both sides of anything.

Then I would clearly say you are fine...

[SBR Lou]

So, do they clearly define bonus abuse somewhere? If i have gotten bonuses from sportsbetting.com, betusa, superbook, and cleared them all, and then sign up at linesmaker.com and claim their bonus, is this OK? I wouldn't be using multiple bonuses at the same time or betting both sides of anything.

That's what I asked them, if I had anything to worry about since I'd received a bonus at Superbook a good while ago, and most recently L-Maker. This was their reply.

"Thank you for contacting us.

Your account is in no danger of being forfeited.

The only real issue that may cause it would be if your account was awarded free bets bonuses.

Playing both sides of free bets is not permitted on our site. We offer these free bets in the understanding that customers will not try to take advantage of these 'no-lose' bets by placing the same wager on both sides."

[ShamsWoof10]

The only real issue that may cause it would be if your account was awarded free bets bonuses.

Playing both sides of free bets is not permitted on our site. We offer these free bets in the understanding that customers will not try to take advantage of these 'no-lose' bets by placing the same wager on both sides."[/I]

What is amazing is I consider that steeling from the book but if they don't let you then it's considered steeling by them... eeeeehhhhy MODS..?????????????????

[tomcowley]

It's quite simple... Until I see a case reported by SBR about a player abusing bonuses against a book then I will consider SBR's word to have SOME value.. As of now they are in it for themselves...

Why else would someone need THREE F*CKIN' ACCOUNTS at the same book...? THEY HAVE THE EXACT SAME LINES!!!! I bet max. bets and I don't need three accounts there... I highly doubt any of you tools need three accounts legitimately...

If you can never find a use for betting 3x limits, you aren't trying hard enough.

[ShamsWoof10]

If you can never find a use for betting 3x limits, you aren't trying hard enough.

Please enlighten me...

[tomcowley]

Optimal stakes, LDO

[ShamsWoof10]

Optimal stakes, LDO

More detail please... We have the same line at three books all sister sites.... Each site has 5K max. bet (NFL)

Clearify... Give me an example... By the way it says in their T&A not that some posters read them but you CAN NOT use sister sites to exceed betting limits..

Bookmaker told me I couldn't do that either with DSI...

[tomcowley]

If you can't figure out how to get down a double max bet at the sportsbook family, please kill yourself. Seriously.

[gambleballs]

I would love to bet 10x their normal limits on some things but wouldn't dare try it. They stole from me once already based on something that wasn't in their T&C. If you do something that they don't like that is in the T&C they will probably rob you and come break your thumbs.

[ShamsWoof10]

If you can't figure out how to get down a double max bet at the sportsbook family, please kill yourself. Seriously.

Ok so what part of "you can't use sister sites to exceed bet limits" DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND..???? or are you just like other posters where you "THINK" you make the rules...

This is from a Sportsbook sister site... live chat:

Now if you can't understand that this is not allowed then go kill yourself.. seriously.....

Hello, my name is Charles Abrams. How may I help you today?
You: Hi I just had a quick question please
Charles Abrams: Hai
Charles Abrams: What is your question?
You: I am part of a sports forum (SBR) and we have a question... Is it in your Terms that you can NOT use sister books to exceed bet limits..?
Charles Abrams: Please bear with me while I look up your account details.....
You: thank you
Charles Abrams: You can use different sportsbooks, but you cannot use these to exceed the limits.
Charles Abrams: How do I place a bet Over The Limit?

In order to make an over the limit wager you first need to place the bet online up to the maximum amount that you are allowed. Once you have placed the maximum bet allowed, take a note of the bet ID. Then try to place a second wager on the same event. You will then be prompted to chat (via a link on the betting ticket) with our specialist staff who may be able to raise your limits on that particular wager.

Please note, increase of betting limits is always subject to management approval.

Charles Abrams: Please note, increase of betting limits is always subject to management approval.
Charles Abrams: This is taken on a game by game basis.
Charles Abrams: Is there anything else I can assist you with?
You: I was just reading through your reply... It is exactly what I thought but the people at SBR (and I know they know better) seem to think it's ok to cheat books which is bullshit
You: They act like it's allowed to do some of the shit they do and bitch when they get smacked by the book... anyway I am going to post your answer and thank you for your time...
Charles Abrams: Thank you for understanding our position. We play fair with our clients and experect same from them.
Charles Abrams: We also keep an eye out for players like this.

I would love to bet 10x their normal limits on some things but wouldn't dare try it. They stole from me once already based on something that wasn't in their T&C. If you do something that they don't like that is in the T&C they will probably rob you and come break your thumbs.

what did you do..?

[ShamsWoof10]

If you can't figure out how to get down a double max bet at the sportsbook family, please kill yourself. Seriously.

yeah... SSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

[SBR Lou]

I love how "Tom" helps illustrate the point..

Players that intentionally abuse, skate around, bend, or outright BREAK their rules deserve everything that comes their way IMHO..

If I was manager of a book, I would seize all winnings that resulted from these actions.. This is a book that gives very sweet bonuses, why "PUSH IT TO THE MAX", why is this needed..??

Can't you possibly just play at one skin, where you probably aren't max betting anyway, and enjoy the bonus? Why take multiple bonuses, exceed limits, bet bonuses against each other, do you feel honest doing that..??

Just because the software allows you to do something, doesn't mean you should. Doesn't anyone realize nobody comes here saying, "my winnings were confiscated and I followed their rules, and I invite any SBR staff to examine my account activity and coordinate w/ their management"...

[durito]

I've sided with the books on all sorts of disputes that have popped up here over the years, a lot more than most people.

What sportsbook.com has done repeatedly amounts to nothing more than straight up theft.

[DukeJohn]

By the way it says in their T&A not that some posters read them but you CAN NOT use sister sites to exceed betting limits..

Hmm... Well, I was not aware of this. I wonder if it is that way with all families of books. I guess I will just have to read their Term of Service.

Thank you ShamsWoof, for bringing this to my attention. I will definitely watch for this once I get a bank roll big enough where this would become an issue..

[tomcowley]

Congrats on your lack of imagination, which is impressive since you can somehow stretch "bonus abuse", such as taking bonuses CS encourages you to take, and playing freeplays against each other (which the book should love anyway since it's an awful use of freeplay), to grounds for confiscating not just bonuses, but entire balances.

[durito]

I like old crazyl posts when he didn't work for SBR.