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Old 04-16-08, 01:47 AM   #1
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Default Feds undercovers at sportsbook!

Check out that article at EOG, some interesting as sh!t, and Creditwager might be part of this and you don't even know it.
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Old 04-16-08, 02:33 AM   #2
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Old 04-16-08, 03:04 AM   #3
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the action of luring an individual into committing a crime in order to prosecute the person for it.

So tell me - why are drug/prostitution stings not entrapment.

If you were on the initial CW email list that asked you to sign up, you're probably fine.

If you just wandered there on your own, then its no different from trying to pickup a cop who is posing as a prostitute.
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Old 04-16-08, 09:04 AM   #4
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Come on guys this is a joke! He was given this job for reduced charges for a real estate scam? Lets get serious this is likethe National Enquirer
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Old 04-16-08, 10:01 AM   #5
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the action of luring an individual into committing a crime in order to prosecute the person for it.

So tell me - why are drug/prostitution stings not entrapment.
A woman scantily dressed standing on a street corner isn't doing anything wrong. In Canada prostitution isn't even illegal. What is illegal is communicating for the purposes of prostitution. So when I go up to her and ask how much for a BJ that's the law I've broken.

Anyone who buys drugs from some dude on the street is a moron. They deserve to get busted. Reminds me of the cheech and chong clip with the AJAX lady.
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Old 04-16-08, 03:08 PM   #6
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No matter how we look at the guy, it looks like the Bureau is trying really hard to crackdown offshore gaming instead of concentrating on Bin Laden goons.
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Old 04-16-08, 03:54 PM   #7
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Most of you are so f*ckin' stupid it's not even funny...

Tell me what part of this DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!!!

IT'S NOT ILLEGAL FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO GAMBLE ONLINE IN MOST US STATES but rather illegal for the finacial institutions to process transactions from online gamming...

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Most of you are so f*ckin' stupid it's not even funny...

Tell me what part of this DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!!!

IT'S NOT ILLEGAL FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO GAMBLE ONLINE IN MOST US STATES but rather illegal for the finacial institutions to process transactions from online gamming...

I don't think they are their to bust individual gamblers, but shut down the financial processing method from the states going in and out the Caribbean islands. For them to do this, it might be better to have an informant actually on site. Basically, doing it the same way they do with a narcotic hustler who are given deals after getting caught.
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I hate the way American law enforcement works into other nations business.

Follow this logic of an American bettor betting with a Costa Rican bookmaker. It is not illegal for an American to place a bet online like sham said. The Feds consider it a crime to be a bookmaker though. However these bookmakers are located in other countries where the feds should have no authority. The only thing being done in America is placing of a bet online (not illegal). The taking of the bet is being done in a country where it is legal. Therefore the Feds should have no case.

What the Feds are doing is mind boggling to me. Why waste resources on this? Why is it so important? Go to a Gamblers Anonymous meeting and half the people there are there because of state sponsored lotteries and SCRATCH OFF TICKETS. Also horse racing is legal. Also if you happen to live in Nevada you can bet on sports with all your money all day long and its fine. Its just retarted I despise the hypocrisy and stupidness of it all.
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I don't think they are their to bust individual gamblers, but shut down the financial processing method from the states going in and out the Caribbean islands. For them to do this, it might be better to have an informant actually on site. Basically, doing it the same way they do with a narcotic hustler who are given deals after getting caught.
This makes much more sense but again they don't need to go through that hassle... Setting up an offshore account is a way to find out what/who/how the processors are doing it.. We all know so it's not a big secret...

This could be damage control.. not sure

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I hope CW and every other bookmaker get ****kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkked.
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Old 04-16-08, 06:19 PM   #12
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I hope CW and every other bookmaker get ****kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkked.
DAMN.... how many have you stiffed...?

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Check out that article at EOG, some interesting as sh!t, and Creditwager might be part of this and you don't even know it.
I don't believe anything EOG says. A bunch of us sent them the details of our case against SBG Global. SBG Global management had copies of everything we sent EOG within 24 hours. I know this because they quoted something I said that I only sent to EOG in an article they posted on one of their front sites. They also quoted the same information in emails they sent to people who were demanding refunds of the money they stole.

And you are going to trust those people?
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I hate the way American law enforcement works into other nations business.

Follow this logic of an American bettor betting with a Costa Rican bookmaker. It is not illegal for an American to place a bet online like sham said. The Feds consider it a crime to be a bookmaker though. However these bookmakers are located in other countries where the feds should have no authority. The only thing being done in America is placing of a bet online (not illegal). The taking of the bet is being done in a country where it is legal. Therefore the Feds should have no case.

What the Feds are doing is mind boggling to me. Why waste resources on this? Why is it so important? Go to a Gamblers Anonymous meeting and half the people there are there because of state sponsored lotteries and SCRATCH OFF TICKETS. Also horse racing is legal. Also if you happen to live in Nevada you can bet on sports with all your money all day long and its fine. Its just retarted I despise the hypocrisy and stupidness of it all.
They aren't. EOG made the shit up.
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Old 04-16-08, 07:12 PM   #15
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The American Feds are doing what I said regardless of whether the story at EOG is true or not. How many foreign based bookmakers have they put in jail or made to pay massive fines? A lot. Neteller, Jay Cohen, etc. etc.

Jay Cohen even commented in that thread that the story could very well be true. In my opinion its 50/50 chance that its true or not. It definately wouldn't surprise me to find it out to be true.
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I hate the way American law enforcement works into other nations business.

Follow this logic of an American bettor betting with a Costa Rican bookmaker. It is not illegal for an American to place a bet online like sham said. The Feds consider it a crime to be a bookmaker though. However these bookmakers are located in other countries where the feds should have no authority. The only thing being done in America is placing of a bet online (not illegal). The taking of the bet is being done in a country where it is legal. Therefore the Feds should have no case.

What the Feds are doing is mind boggling to me. Why waste resources on this? Why is it so important? Go to a Gamblers Anonymous meeting and half the people there are there because of state sponsored lotteries and SCRATCH OFF TICKETS. Also horse racing is legal. Also if you happen to live in Nevada you can bet on sports with all your money all day long and its fine. Its just retarted I despise the hypocrisy and stupidness of it all.
Because its all about money. Look at what they got from neteller. Didn't they have to pay the US $60 million for processing the transactions from us gamblers? Helps to fund their operations budget. ITS A MONEY GRAB, THAT'S ALL
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Being at the book could give them another vantage point to look at US agents, processing, and money laundering but being there alone isn't going to take down a book or its players. The legality of placing an online bet or taking one in another country is undefined.
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Old 04-17-08, 03:33 PM   #18
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I'm lost.. I can't find the article at EOG. Anybody wanna give me a link?
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Old 04-17-08, 08:03 PM   #19
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i AM REPOSTING THIS FROM OTHER POST TO MAXIMIZE VIEW TO FIND INFO REGARDING ABSOLUTE POKER/LAZERWAGER/BETRUSS CONNECTION FOR THE UPCOMING 60 MINUTES EXPOSE... PLEASE FORGIVE AS IT IS A CRITICAL ELEMENT TO OUR DEFRAUDED FRIENDS BY ALL THESE COMPANIES ESPECIALLY ABSOLUTE POKER...

Holy Shit apples.....

These guys are owned by Evolution?????????? Not sure what that means but Evolution was one of the companies mentioned in EOG story as one of the companies infiltrated by the feds as part of their investigation into online gaming.... This is incredible..lets hope the feds got what they needed from that and bust these scam artists! along with Absolute Poker! SBR please keep us informed...again if anyone has any ifo about the Lazer/Absolute connection please contact my self or Steve Kroft at 60 Minutes show

http://forums.eog.com/online-sportsb...ys-129407.html
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