[Jarbo11]

I have a friend that runs a post up shop and he said whenever he has customers that begs for a credit line, they are just trying to stiff. The excuse those stiff customers use are pretty funny. One guy said he's too lazy to post up a deposit. The other guy said he can't afford to play post up, but he can play credit line. What a joke.

If anyone ever have a potential new customer telling you they are not going to play by your rule, then tell him to find someone else. Credit line is for losers. It opens you up to being stiff at any given time.

[increasedodds]

There are lots of non stiffs out there using credit.

[-105]

Yeah man i have a credit shop and not having to post up makes my bankroll 33% bigger.

[Jarbo11]

Originally Posted by increasedodds

There are lots of non stiffs out there using credit.

Again, if you refuse to post up and only want to play on a credit line with one of those local knucklehead bookies running an unreliable credit shop, then you are a stiff. It doesn't matter if you don't stiff right away, but at one point later on, you will stiff when you lose an amount you're not able to pay.

Only stiffs play credit line and only idiotic unreliable wannabe bookies trying to compete with the big boys real offshore sportsbook will let them. It's a fact.

[HedgeHog]

Too general a statement. Just because you can't manage your own credit, don't assume others can't too. I buy on credit all the time and pay in full at the end of the month. And before online gambling, I bet on credit with locals and never defaulted.

[Jarbo11]

Originally Posted by HedgeHog

Too general a statement. Just because you can't manage your own credit, don't assume others can't too. I buy on credit all the time and pay in full at the end of the month. And before online gambling, I bet on credit with locals and never defaulted.

All the reliable and top rated real offshore books are post up operation. Only idiots use credit line. Imagine if your local wannabe bookie had couple of customers running away, and that fool doesn't have enough liquid asset to pay up the winners. This type of problem will never happen with a post up shop. Always bet safe, bet right, and bet post up.

[-105]

Originally Posted by Jarbo11

All the reliable and top rated real offshore books are post up operation. Only idiots use credit line. Imagine if your local wannabe bookie had couple of customers running away, and that fool doesn't have enough liquid asset to pay up the winners. This type of problem will never happen with a post up shop. Always bet safe, bet right, and bet post up.

That is the biggest load of crap I have read on this site. The people in the world that have the most credit.....HAVE THE MOST MONEY, how you think they got credit to begin with?

Lots of online post up books stiff players, look at the long list of F books.

[Jarbo11]

Originally Posted by -105

That is the biggest load of crap I have read on this site. The people in the world that have the most credit.....HAVE THE MOST MONEY, how you think they got credit to begin with?

Lots of online post up books stiff players, look at the long list of F books.

Players are bigger stiffs than books. The point is, always go with an "A" rated book over any local credit shop street bookies. The street bookies aren't even real bookies to begin with. Post up over credit shop anyday.

[lukahh]

Originally Posted by Jarbo11

Players are bigger stiffs than books. The point is, always go with an "A" rated book over any local credit shop street bookies. The street bookies aren't even real bookies to begin with. Post up over credit shop anyday.

i agree betting any other way than post-up is risky and worrisome for several reasons. some exception might apply. but - if some people want to do it, go ahead, why throw all worlds anger on them?

[-105]

when you win/lose 5 figure every week , you will see a good credit shop is something you can't live without

[HedgeHog]

In the neighborhood I grew up in, you wouldn't dare stiff the local Book. As far as credit shops go, sure there is an extra risk of stiffs. But the vast majority of players are apparently honoring their debts, else they wouldn't exist.

[Mudcat]

Silly thread. OP must be a stiff who can't understand that there are people different than him. Credit is a big part of modern society. Lots of people people can handle credit.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by HedgeHog

In the neighborhood I grew up in, you wouldn't dare stiff the local Book. As far as credit shops go, sure there is an extra risk of stiffs. But the vast majority of players are apparently honoring their debts, else they wouldn't exist.

I grew up in the southern Chicago suburbs ... you wouldn't live to see the beginning of next season if you stiffed one of the local bookies, all of them had surnames ending in a vowel and close relatives in the construction, cement, and waste management industries if you know what I mean

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Don't feed the troll.

[-105]

Originally Posted by chachi

I grew up in the southern Chicago suburbs ... you wouldn't live to see the beginning of next season if you stiffed one of the local bookies, all of them had surnames ending in a vowel and close relatives in the construction, cement, and waste management industries if you know what I mean

What do you mean, the families were well off? With all those jobs why would they need to book bets illegally?

[chachi]

Ummm ... not wanting to offend any members here of Italian-American descent I ummm ... errr ... ummm ... actually have nothing to say and retract my earlier comment

[DukeJohn]

Originally Posted by -105

What do you mean, the families were well off? With all those jobs why would they need to book bets illegally?

Originally Posted by Jarbo11

Credit line is for losers. It opens you up to being stiff at any given time.

Originally Posted by Jarbo11

Only idiots use credit line. Always bet safe, bet right, and bet post up.

Perhaps, yes, many credit players might become stiffs, however professional players will use credit to increase their bank rolls if available. Since every person that I have met claiming to be a professional sports bettor seem to all have a great money management strategy at their base, it just makes more sense to increase your bankroll via credit and thus have a bigger ROI. As, -105, states below, credit can really help the bottom line to someone who knows how to use it properly. So, for you to just lump all profession players in with wanna be pros, is not only unjust but you are actually calling them losers and idiots.

Originally Posted by -105

Yeah man i have a credit shop and not having to post up makes my bankroll 33% bigger.

[grantingyou]

I think the person who started this thread doesn't understand the offshore business.

First, just about EVERY Offshore Book has a Credit Department, and uses Credit. I have used Grande, Bookmaker, and Pinnicale for credit the last 8 years. I also post up at 5Dimes.

I have enough credit at Bookmaker, but I use the other outs to shop for line value, middles, etc.

In 8 years of using credit books, I have NEVER stiffed my Agents and I have NEVER been stiffed by them.

Yes, there are those stiffs that take a shot (on both sides of the counter) and there those that get over the heads, get on a plan, then settle.

[grantingyou]

Might be the most ingnorant post of the year.

[TheAccountant]

This thread clearly shows why credit is not for everyone..

Lot of confusion between credit and free money sometimes - just because VC pre-approves you for $1k doesn't mean they are giving you a thousand bucks to take down to the corner bar..

Any legitimate offshore book will have some type of credit, it is just not widely available to any online better who shows up and asks for it.

[MadTiger]

Originally Posted by -105

What do you mean, the families were well off? With all those jobs why would they need to book bets illegally?

The "Families" were well off BECAUSE they booked. ahhahaha

Among other activities.

[midnight777]

ok what was the point of this tread?

[Jarbo11]

For the people that think local credit shop books don't get stiff, yea right! There's a few I know that had to disappear from this business forever because they were trying to be bookies and they failed miserably. Couple of them got busted by law enforcers because they threat their stiff customers for not paying up.

Again, bottom line is "A" rated offshore post up books are always a better choice over the local wannabe bookies running a credit shop. Anyone that refuse to post up are stiffs and that's the truth.

Any books that runs a post up shop are guarantee to not ever have to encounter stiff customers. That's a fact.

[Jarbo11]

Originally Posted by -105

when you win/lose 5 figure every week , you will see a good credit shop is something you can't live without

And that's why a lot of local credit shop knuckleheads ran into financial trouble. A lot of them don't even have enough liquid asset to begin with. If they get 4 or 5 stiffs like you that think like that, they're screwed. You lose 5 figure for a week and then when you can pay up the rest, you pay up half and say you'll be settling for weekly payments. F**K that sh1t! I bet when you win, you are going to want full payment. But when you lose, you either stiff, or you only going to pay up half. And if there's 3 or 4 other customers that stiff and just disappear all of a sudden, the wannabe knucklehead bookie is screwed if he has 4 or 5 other big winners.

There's people that post up 5 figures, it's not a big deal. But post up operation is a lot safer than a stupid little local credit shop for both the players and the book. It's a proven fact. That's why the local wannabe bookies will never be able to compete with the big boys "A" rated offshore post up sportsbooks. It's a fact.

local credit shop = small potatoes wannabe bookies that always fail miserably

"A" rated offshore post up sportsbooks = The Big Boys doing real business all over the world.

[dinaro7]

credit wagering is the only credit shop i know of

[Jarbo11]

Originally Posted by dinaro7

credit wagering is the only credit shop i know of

hahahaha, that knucklehead site doesn't even pay up their winners because all of their customers are a bunch of stiffs! If the book has stiff customers, then the book will stiff their winners.

[goldengreek]

Are there any online credit shops ? Or are we just talking locals?

[Jarbo11]

Originally Posted by goldengreek

Are there any online credit shops ? Or are we just talking locals?

Just local knuckleheads that are not even real bookies. Just a bunch of wannabes.

[GiveMeaBJ]

Some people bet paycheck to paycheck and don't have the extra money to post up.

[Jarbo11]

Originally Posted by GiveMeaBJ

Some people bet paycheck to paycheck and don't have the extra money to post up.

Typical stiff excuse. Just wait till you have the extra money to post up. Problems solved.

[Smoke]

so many stiffs out there.. hey look i found a picture of sbr poster -105 on the CW stiff page..

[Smoke]

wait his girlfriend is on there too...

[stikymess]

I like the "a friend that runs a post up shop" then he goes into giving credit, well which one is it?

[Jarbo11]

Originally Posted by stikymess

I like the "a friend that runs a post up shop" then he goes into giving credit, well which one is it?

How hard was it to understand? Can you read? He runs a post up shop, post up ONLY. Not one of those dumb guys trying to be a bookie by running an unreliable credit shop.

You must be a stiff.

[stikymess]

Originally Posted by Jarbo11

How hard was it to understand? Can you read? He runs a post up shop, post up ONLY. Not one of those dumb guys trying to be a bookie by running an unreliable credit shop. You must be a stiff.

Wow you sure did put me in my place.