Bodog .. Should I request Chargeback?

natethegreat920 · 03-17-2008, 03:26 PM

I would really appreciate any help/advice...

About 2 years I created a Bodog account. I had gambling problems, so after a few big losses, I told Bodog to never let me to make a deposit again. 2 months later I begged them to reopen my account and they did. After another $4000 loss, I threatened to do a chargeback. I never did request a chargeback, but they assured me I WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO PLAY ON BODOG AGAIN..

A couple months ago, I fell for there 110% bonus they were offering and created an account under my mom's name. I created the account under her name but I made the deposits through my ATM card... I have the same legal name, address, etc as I did 2 years ago (when they assured me I can never play again)...

I usually play blackjack... I deposited a total of about $12000 and am waiting for my payouts of 4000$ to come in.

Bodog has the name of my mom (Mrs.) on the account but yet I call in everytime and make the deposit and they never said anything... After a while, they just changed the name to Mr. Kathy *****.

I am just so fed up with this... I know I have a gambling problem, but I feel like they should have never given another account to someone w/ the same address using the same ATM card.

Does anyone have any opinions on whether or not I should do a chargeback? Will it affect my credit? My mom's credit? Should I wait until I get my $4000 in checks?
Please any help would be greatly appreciated.

I do seek therapists for my problem.. I signed myself out of all the local casinos so i can't go there anymore. Bodog shouldn't have ever even let me create another account under someone elses name..

Ganchrow · 03-17-2008, 03:30 PM

I'm just going to predict that you receive some rather heated replies.

diogee · 03-17-2008, 03:35 PM

Ganchrow is correct...best off to live with your decision instead of trying to screw a book for your mistakes. Go to some G.A. meetings to help yourself.

capitalist pig · 03-17-2008, 03:35 PM

Maybe Im missing something, but can you actually do a chargeback after using a ATM card? I just figured that was credit cards only.

later

natethegreat920 · 03-17-2008, 03:36 PM

i don't want to get people mad... I just want people's opinions...

This is my first post on this site.

I don't even know if the local bank will do a chargeback. I just feel like the biggest idiot falling for this lame bodog shit again.

Anyone ever do a chargeback with them...

seaborneq · 03-17-2008, 03:37 PM

Maybe I am missing something. Are you upset because a book gave you the privledge to play because of YOUR deception of pretending to be your mom? You are sick.

natethegreat920 · 03-17-2008, 03:38 PM

You might be right... I don't know!

I think you can request chargebacks since it is a Visa.. I can probably dispute it or something.

See I don't know these things.

Cloak & Dagger · 03-17-2008, 03:38 PM

the bank will always be on your side....if you request a chargeback....thats what they will do

bodog is garbage...this is known

but Im sure if you do that.....they WILL find a way to get it on your credit report....believe it

natethegreat920 · 03-17-2008, 03:41 PM

I am not a bad person... I am just inquiring...

It's just the fact that they told me I can never deposit ever again. Then they let me deposit using my moms name (even though i'm using my address, my credit card, etc.)

This whole time while I was gambling I kept thinking that even if I win they wouldn't pay me because I said to never let me play again.

seaborneq · 03-17-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by natethegreat920

I am not a bad person... I am just inquiring...

It's just the fact that they told me I can never deposit ever again. Then they let me deposit using my moms name (even though i'm using my address, my credit card, etc.)

This whole time while I was gambling I kept thinking that even if I win they wouldn't pay me because I said to never let me play again.

You are a crook too.

Santo · 03-17-2008, 03:45 PM

Similarities? ;-)

Quote:

A compulsive gambler who squandered more than £2 million at the bookmakers lost again today after a High Court judge rejected his claim for compensation and damages from William Hill.

Mr Justice Briggs ruled that the bookmaker owed Graham Calvert no duty of care even though he had requested that they stop taking his money under their own self-exclusion policy.

The judge said that although William Hill had failed to take reasonable steps to exclude Mr Calvert from telephone gambling in line with their own guidelines, pathological gambling would still probably have led to his financial ruin, just over a longer period of time.

In a summary of his ruling, Mr Justice Briggs said: "William Hill's failure to take reasonable care to exclude him from telephone gambling... did not therefore cause Mr Calvert any measurable financial or other loss."

Mr Calvert, 28, sued William Hill for damages after losing his wife, health and livelihood to his gambling addiction.

Anneliese Day, representing Mr Calvert at the High Court, told the judge at a hearing last month that William Hill should be held liable for her client's financial plight because of its failure to operate its own policy.

She said Mr Calvert, a greyhound trainer from Houghton-le-Spring, Tyne and Wear, was hoping to establish in law for the first time that bookies do owe a duty of care in his circumstances.
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Miss Day said the scale of her client's gambling was "staggering".

At a previous hearing the court heard how Mr Calvert placed huge multiple bets in the space of a few hours and lost around £347,000 in one bet alone when he backed the US to win the 2006 Ryder Cup.

Mr Calvert, who ended up borrowing money to fund his habit, was described by Miss Day as an accomplished greyhound trainer who ran the family business from a farm in County Durham.

Before his gambling addiction took hold he was "comfortably well-off", although he had been involved in gambling for most of his life.

"The claimant's descent from betting being a hobby to betting being a disorder appears to have commenced when he began betting by telephone."

Miss Day said that Mr Calvert began "staking larger and larger sums of money with increasing frequency and decreasing regard for the consequences".

natethegreat920 · 03-17-2008, 03:46 PM

I am not a crook. I have never EVER done anything even close to this idea. I'm just wondering.

Timetopay · 03-17-2008, 03:47 PM

its bodogs fault. I would even try to do a charge back on the old transactions. Make them pay for thier mistakes

gl and welcome

awhitejackson · 03-17-2008, 03:47 PM

The money is lost...Any moves on your part against these balances would be wrong...I say find a way to quit...

BigBollocks · 03-17-2008, 04:01 PM

Bodog are scum and Calvin Ayre has screwed people since the age of time. Believe me when I tell you that $4K isn't even a drop in the bucket compared to the amounts he's swindled from his time in Canada up until now.

I'm 99.99999999% of the time the first person to side with the book and fight theft, but considering the facts, and most importantly who you're dealing with, I have no problems whatsoever with you doing a chargeback Nate. After you do the chargeback, you and your mother's name will almost certainly be blacklisted throughout most of the industry (which should be doing you a favor).

As a personal note, I've been around the casino/gaming industry my entire life, and have personally had three people commit suicide in the vicinity of me due to gambling (two in the same month in Vegas). You, my friend, are a compulsive gambler. It's not something that you'll ever just wash off, and every time you gamble you'll be in a worse situation than you are now. I'd suggest letting your family and friends know the depths of your problem, and enrolling in a G.A. (Gambler's Anonymous) program as soon as possible. PM me if you want to discuss further. Here's hoping you're able to salvage your life....

datek23 · 03-17-2008, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natethegreat920

I would really appreciate any help/advice...

About 2 years I created a Bodog account. I had gambling problems, so after a few big losses, I told Bodog to never let me to make a deposit again. 2 months later I begged them to reopen my account and they did. After another $4000 loss, I threatened to do a chargeback. I never did request a chargeback, but they assured me I WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO PLAY ON BODOG AGAIN..

A couple months ago, I fell for there 110% bonus they were offering and created an account under my mom's name. I created the account under her name but I made the deposits through my ATM card... I have the same legal name, address, etc as I did 2 years ago (when they assured me I can never play again)...

I usually play blackjack... I deposited a total of about $12000 and am waiting for my payouts of 4000$ to come in.

Bodog has the name of my mom (Mrs.) on the account but yet I call in everytime and make the deposit and they never said anything... After a while, they just changed the name to Mr. Kathy *****.

I am just so fed up with this... I know I have a gambling problem, but I feel like they should have never given another account to someone w/ the same address using the same ATM card.

Does anyone have any opinions on whether or not I should do a chargeback? Will it affect my credit? My mom's credit? Should I wait until I get my $4000 in checks?
Please any help would be greatly appreciated.

I do seek therapists for my problem.. I signed myself out of all the local casinos so i can't go there anymore. Bodog shouldn't have ever even let me create another account under someone elses name..

You will be pushing your luck my friend. $4000 is when FBI and state police get involved. If they found that this amount was sent legally for a illegal matter and you are doing a charge back with nothing being stolen, you and your family will get in trouble. A charge back is used when someone steals your credit card information without your knowledge for most cases. After the bank and credit card companies investigate with the state police or FBI, you better have a good supply of K-Y Jelly. This is no laughing matter. You got a problem and just about forget about ever seeing that money again on the safe side. If you want to take your chances and risks and possibility of a investigation for wire and bank fraud, go right ahead. People who commit wire and bank fraud go to prison longer than killers. It is not worth the risk at getting burned for the rest of your life.