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Old 08-15-10, 12:28 AM   #1
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Hello.From over 3 or 4 months I have a lot of issues with this "site".First of all they give me bonuses if not every week, than in every 2 weeks.But when I start to contact them often they stop giving me.When I ask why they don't answer me so I go to bet in other bookie.I ask them for bonus again and they told me this time the reason,that they reject my bonus due to lack of activity..So after time I again ask for bonus and they told me that it is IMPOSSIBLE to tell me why they reject my bonus query..This is too funny,because last week they explained it to me..This is for their bonus program...ALso when I bet I have some issues..For example I want to bet on one match,I do it I contact tem if it possible to cancel the bet, but because the chat session starts some minutes later they told me that they can't cancel it because the event is over, but if this happen again and I'm contact them on time they will do it..On the next day the same thing happen.I contact them and they told me that they can't do nothing...I bet 70 BGN and after over 1 hour chat they compensate me with 20 BGN.After that some money of the bonus I bet on basketball match and the team for which I don't bet score 3 point and the line for my team droped which is bad for me and they accept the bet.. but if my team score, they reject my bet and give me the new spread line.Also when I bet on some U16 games they don't have good and fast info for this game..for example the teams don't score for five minutes and after that every of them score 6-7 points in basketball for seconds which is impossible..And of course when I ask them.. they tell me that in play console is guide only hahaha.Last time I ask them for bonus I talk with supervisor who tells me that I'm not avaliable for bonus.When I ask him he told that my loosing bets for last 3 monts are 310 BGN..Now I deceide to calculate them manualy and they are... 1 397,35 BGN..."Very little" difference...Now I ask another supervisor and she told that my bets for less than 2 monts are over 450 BGN So someone lied me...And she teld that can't give me bonus, because they add me bonus 1-2 weeks ago..They add me, because they don't e-mailed me for their new Kick of bonus..And when I ask them for goodwill bonus, they enter me Kick off bonus..idiots..
So just go away for this scam bookie...
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Old 08-15-10, 02:30 AM   #2
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Bet365 are far from a scam bookie ... I've used them for years and years, never had any problems.

They are one of the largest betting operations in Europe, are one of the five or so largest private companies in the UK (to put that in perspective a few of the premiership football teams are privately owned so they are bigger than them) and are fully regulated on-shore by the UK authorities, possibly the best / hardest regulators there are.

Seems the main basis for your complaints are that they do not give you free plays when you want them, did not cancel a wager of yours, and that their live score/stats on some esoteric extremely minor matches are not up-to-the-second.

1) Bonuses are just that, bonuses, they are at their whim to provide, not for when you decide you should get one. Their kickoff bonus which you are bitching about was a free 100 acct credit against qualifying deposit (either 100% of 100 or 25% of 400) not a no-stake single free play, hardly something to try to say is not good.

2) I have had them cancel a wager for me, I had two horses in the bet slip and unticked the wrong one, got them on livechat, explained the situation, and after I placed the other 'correct bet' they happily voided the first. If you are polite and calm, they are helpful. If you are constantly bitching about them not giving you more free money, they are likely less inclined to do you any favours.

3) IMO anyone dumb enough to bet on something in-running and rely solely upon the bookies representation of the score/stats stream is extremely foolish.

BTW - your entire betting history is immediately viewable from within the members/history area and net 'amt staked' vs 'amt won' is right there at the bottom, so no need for pencil and paper scribbling to come up with 'your own numbers' to argue about.

I suppose you think BalkanBet is superior to them (?)

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Old 08-15-10, 02:43 AM   #3
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MM23, you are acting like a whiny, sniveling little girl.

After reading your post, I sure don't blame Bet365 for refusing to give you a bonus.

I can say with great confidence that you must be a liberal democrat or a socialist considering you are constantly asking for free money that you're NOT entitled to.

If I ran Bet365, I would reply back to you that your business is NOT WELCOME any longer.
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Old 08-15-10, 09:10 AM   #4
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bet365 has the largest and best live betting options, and they always pay in a timely manner
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Old 08-15-10, 09:47 AM   #5
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Exactly ... A+ in my book

Occasionally not so fondly thought of by others when it comes to limiting sharps though
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Old 08-15-10, 01:25 PM   #6
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Good book especially for the Horsies I like the icon you can click which keeps you bang-up to date on any horse withdrawals which might lead you to the dreaded rule 4 deductions.

A shame other bookies don't do this. I have been caught a few times where books have not included the deduction in their prices despite the horse being withdrawn over 2 hours previous
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Old 08-15-10, 02:48 PM   #7
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best book but only if you lose, if you win you will get very fast limits.
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Old 08-15-10, 05:48 PM   #8
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best book but only if you lose, if you win you will get very fast limits.
winning is isn't necessary
you will get limited simply by giving them any sign that you know what you are doing
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Old 08-16-10, 04:57 AM   #9
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yes you are right and I will correct myself - good only for recreational players (as many other european books) and bad for professional players, thats why they choose asian bookmakers.
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Old 08-16-10, 12:56 PM   #10
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Almost all European books are targeted moreso towards dumb and/or recreational players to be fair ...
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Old 08-17-10, 08:19 AM   #11
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I think they most loved my lost 4k€ live wager on some idiot to win his serve game @ -350
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Old 08-17-10, 10:24 AM   #12
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Of all the weak euro books from my experience bet365 are the best.
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Old 08-17-10, 10:43 AM   #13
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Yeah I use them for horses all the time and love them.

BTW their '50 free mobile' offer is still active if anyone's not done it ...
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Old 08-17-10, 10:48 AM   #14
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Top A+ booker i play a lot in there
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Old 08-17-10, 11:40 AM   #15
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they only cater to losing players. i had my limits on in-game NBA betting reduced to $15. and that was all based on a couple of lucky hits where i would bet the favorite at long odds when they were down by around 10 points or so. at that point, i was as square as they come too....
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Old 08-17-10, 12:01 PM   #16
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I've just checked, over the last 6 months I am effectively scratch (22k staked, 21.2k winnings) with them, no limit issues
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Old 08-17-10, 12:18 PM   #17
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I've just checked, over the last 6 months I am effectively scratch (22k staked, 21.2k winnings) with them, no limit issues
you mustn't be hitting top odds often enough then which would have you limited smartly
and that's borne out by your results too ... to win at this caper you have to get the best of the odds
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Old 08-17-10, 03:51 PM   #18
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Well, I do horses mainly with them so too many variables to 'score' it like 1x2 or 12 markets am afraid, and they're not the only one I'm active with regularly either ...
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Old 08-17-10, 05:29 PM   #19
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Well, I do horses mainly with them so too many variables to 'score' it like 1x2 or 12 markets am afraid, and they're not the only one I'm active with regularly either ...
you're probably far less likely to be limited for action on horses than sports, unless you make a habit of hitting early on big shorteners
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Old 08-18-10, 01:42 AM   #20
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I'd say my activity with them is 60/40 EPs vs ~ 30mins to the off ... with occasional 500-750-1000 euro singles on odds-on soccer favs
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Old 08-18-10, 02:24 AM   #21
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So many profitable opportunities at Bet365 it makes my head spin. I think you have to invest time on your image at a site like this, just like a card counter has to hide what they're doing.
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Old 08-18-10, 03:06 AM   #22
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Yep ... it is worth the effort to maintain a facade though.

I deliberately avoid their freebet race offers, never do oddball bet sizes unless going all-in with remaining balance, when doing handfuls of favs on the same ticket or same day, keep my win target as nearly the same as I can ( ie grouping singles of 400 @ 1/3 , 500 @ 1/4 , and 1000 @ 1/8 together ) and stay away from anything but top tier soccer, avoiding the South American leagues and 2nd/3rd division Europeans even though there are arb'able lines there at times, and occasionally also do some small doubles/trebles and lay off for scratch or dutch for scratch just to shake it up a bit

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Old 08-18-10, 04:20 AM   #23
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customer service is woeful at bet365
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Old 08-19-10, 04:10 AM   #24
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Wow, this bettor is really complaining, that Bet365 won't give him Loyaly bonus every (2) week?

If you bet a lot, you will receive this bonus, but this is by the decision of the bookie....I never heard anybody complaining why the bookie didn't give him free money one week or two...

About the live betting, yes, if the odds improves, it accepts your bet with lower odds. If the odds decreases while the accepting the live bet is pending, it won't get accepted - and this this sucks, as I haven't seen any other bookie doing this.

Bet365 is not an A+ bookie, but FAR from being a scam bookie....if they could improve 1-2 things, they would be a top bookmaker
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Old 08-19-10, 04:49 AM   #25
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They limit me even if I have LOST 2k!
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Old 08-25-10, 10:35 AM   #26
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Out of the blue just received an email with a free €15 no deposit acct credit from them, only 3x WR
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Old 08-25-10, 05:26 PM   #27
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winning is isn't necessary
you will get limited simply by giving them any sign that you know what you are doing
exactly Hareeba
they limited me to 3,65 Euro (or so) after 6 weeks of losing more than 10.000 Euro
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exactly Hareeba
they limited me to 3,65 Euro (or so) after 6 weeks of losing more than 10.000 Euro
What did you do?arb?
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Old 08-26-10, 06:11 PM   #29
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No. Only live-betting.
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Old 08-28-10, 03:58 AM   #30
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bet365 are really solid i have recieved bonuses regullar from them, i dont know at what intervat, but is money who are welcome
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