[forsberg21]

List the book and the terms (full amount? rollover? etc.)

I'm trying to get a bailout at Legends, but they're insisting on screenshots, which I can't get because I can no longer log into my Bet911 account.

[Peep]

Ouch.

As I posted here two weeks ago, the first thing you should do if any book starts slow paying you is to get screenshots.

Sadly, this is why. GL, I don't know what to recommend now.

[dark star]

I sent a screen shot to Ballwonder 2 weeks ago.Still waiting on Legends to review my account.My balance was $2600 and change.This has been a slow process

[chrikar]

This sucks Forsberg.. I had my screenshot taken on the 15th of June with balance 3400 euros. I sent it to ballwonder and in the next 2-3 hrs i had a message from Legendz that my account is credited with the equivalent of $1500 (that was their max amount)..it was 1220 euros. Their options was to match my deposit with 6x rollover or no deposit and 10x rollover. I chose the second one, actually i met the rollover yesterday and got a 2000 euros to Moneybookers in a couple of hrs. Still left some money there to play with them.

As far as i know but haven't done it, Betphoenix is offering a bailout for accounts of more than $2000 with a matching deposit and 30x rollover with the term that the 1st payout cannot be before the 1st or 2nd week of october(i don't remember this detail).

@ dark star Maybe the delay is bcs ur balance is greater than $1500. Legendz is helping us up to $1500. Try this with ballwonder.

[dark star]

OK thanks.I'll give it a try.

[Doug]

As far as i know but haven't done it, Betphoenix is offering a bailout for accounts of more than $2000 with a matching deposit and 30x rollover with the term that the 1st payout cannot be before the 1st or 2nd week of october(i don't remember this detail).


That is no bailout, it is a 100% bonus with a 30X rollover, probably at full vig too !

That is an insult.

[MBENZ]

Originally Posted by Doug

As far as i know but haven't done it, Betphoenix is offering a bailout for accounts of more than $2000 with a matching deposit and 30x rollover with the term that the 1st payout cannot be before the 1st or 2nd week of october(i don't remember this detail).


That is no bailout, it is a 100% bonus with a 30X rollover, probably at full vig too !

That is an insult.

You have got to be kidding,that book is scraping for deposits.Look out below.

[in play, run(s)]

I've also sent an email to ballwonder on June 22th, nothing happened since then. Let's see what happens, but I'm not too hopeful

Anyway, I really appreciate his effort in this case.

[joe blow]

Originally Posted by Doug

As far as i know but haven't done it, Betphoenix is offering a bailout for accounts of more than $2000 with a matching deposit and 30x rollover with the term that the 1st payout cannot be before the 1st or 2nd week of october(i don't remember this detail).


That is no bailout, it is a 100% bonus with a 30X rollover, probably at full vig too !

That is an insult.

More than an insult,considering that you need to tie up another 2k till october
Why is that?
Because if anyone can finish a 30x rollover,then they can use new football post up money.

30x rollover with a 90 day or more hold on your money.
Tell them to **** off and send the 2k anywhere else......

[ZombieWolverine]

Sound like a plan to me

[dark star]

A 30x roll is brutal

[increasedodds]

Had no bet911 account, but would happily send Phoenix $5000 with a 100% bonus and 30x rollover... That's a good deal

[Peep]

Originally Posted by increasedodds

Had no bet911 account, but would happily send Phoenix $5000 with a 100% bonus and 30x rollover... That's a good deal

I would think you can get it there.

They regularily give out 100% bonuses with 6x or 8x at Bet Phoenix. Give them a call and let us know.

[forsberg21]

I'm on the verge of receiving a bailout, I'll report back as soon as everything is finalized.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by increasedodds

Had no bet911 account, but would happily send Phoenix $5000 with a 100% bonus and 30x rollover... That's a good deal

Sean, I don't think it is that great of a deal.

They go full vig on bonuses.

You'd also need a high limit ( like at least $20,000, IMO) to make this worthwhile. It would be the old bet both sides trick....$10k at Phoenix on something, the other side at Matchbook....Fail and you have 20k there, if that's the bet limit, then try again, lose and now 40k at less than an A book.

The amount deposited would depend on limits ( NFL i guess).

They gave bonuses like this all the time....maybe not for 5k though.

for a bailout 10X and a deposit is plenty of rollover, most will bust the account.

Of course it is not the fault of BP that people played at 911.

[Thremp]

Umm... I'd gladly take any bailout for monies (fake) at Bet911. The EV of your money at another book is infinitely higher.

[noyb]

Originally Posted by Thremp

Umm... I'd gladly take any bailout for monies (fake) at Bet911. The EV of your money at another book is infinitely higher.

there's a certain point though that if you have to match deposits and those extra funds you post up are tied by a huge rollover and are stuck for months the bailout actually becomes ev- compared to getting no bail out all

[Doug]

some guys got bailouts with a 10X rollover and NO deposit at Legendz ( I believe it was), that is the spirit behind a bailout.

few will roll a large account 30X with full vig and have anything left.

I'd love a 30X -100% bonus at multiple good shops but you have to play that for like $500 not $5,000 so you can intentionally try to lose it a few times and short circuit the 30X rollover without hitting limits. It's tough with baseball. If this was Beted, might be a $1,000 limit on MLB ( ?) so only one shot with a $500 deposit ( $1,000 total). You might be screwed if you win that bet...

[midnight777]

I had 294@ bet911 when they went under. I also did not get a screenshot. what can I do? sent an email to legends. what got me was they said my payout would be sent in a few days. free of charge via **. what a j0ke. I still can not believe they are sending out emails now as they operate under a new book..

[katstale]

I would be glad for any offer from a book which gave me a chance to win my "lost" money back. Especially doable at an opinionated book.

[midnight777]

yeah any book that can help me out.. I doubt it, it is only 294.

[ucbearcats1027]

Why would you take a 30x roll

[Kaka]

because it is a chance of winning stole funds back. Better than nothing I guess!

[Ella600]

Has any other book come forward with bailouts?

[Thremp]

Originally Posted by noyb

there's a certain point though that if you have to match deposits and those extra funds you post up are tied by a huge rollover and are stuck for months the bailout actually becomes ev- compared to getting no bail out all

lol this is painfully wrong

[katstale]

Originally Posted by Thremp

lol this is painfully wrong

Constructive criticism without histrionics. Good show Shemp. I bet some Cascade players will be happy for offers as well. Anyone?

[Halifax]

Originally Posted by Doug

some guys got bailouts with a 10X rollover and NO deposit at Legendz ( I believe it was), that is the spirit behind a bailout.

few will roll a large account 30X with full vig and have anything left.

I'd love a 30X -100% bonus at multiple good shops but you have to play that for like $500 not $5,000 so you can intentionally try to lose it a few times and short circuit the 30X rollover without hitting limits. It's tough with baseball. If this was Beted, might be a $1,000 limit on MLB ( ?) so only one shot with a $500 deposit ( $1,000 total). You might be screwed if you win that bet...

The funny thing is, last year, BetPhoenix were offering a 100% bonus with a 12x rollover (maybe even less than that) to almost anyone who asked for it ... now they're giving a 100% bonus with a 30x rollover, and calling it a bailout ... pretty sure they'd give this offer to anyone who asked for it, whether they played at Bet911 or not.

[cloudagh]

If anyone from Betphoenix is reading this, I was a Betcascade victim with 5 figures lost. I would gladly take the bailout deal that is being offered to Bet911 customers. Please PM me or post here. I have screen shots to prove my account balance.

[katstale]

I will be more than a little interested to see if any Cascade players get any love. Cumulus keep us informed. Lots of PR value in this for BP and maybe even some good karma.

[aggie]

Originally Posted by Halifax

The funny thing is, last year, BetPhoenix were offering a 100% bonus with a 12x rollover (maybe even less than that) to almost anyone who asked for it ... now they're giving a 100% bonus with a 30x rollover, and calling it a bailout ... pretty sure they'd give this offer to anyone who asked for it, whether they played at Bet911 or not.

exactly, wanted to post it myself but really was puzzled if this indeed was the case (such low roll then)

[JoeVig]

Originally Posted by cloudagh

If anyone from Betphoenix is reading this, I was a Betcascade victim with 5 figures lost. I would gladly take the bailout deal that is being offered to Bet911 customers. Please PM me or post here. I have screen shots to prove my account balance.

Did anyone ever get anywhere on that Cascade legal action SBR was helping organize? Of course a 30x rollover on a bailout is probably +EV compared to waiting on Costa Rican courts.

[katstale]

Hope BP will offer some help to the Cascade folks. If that happens, will be very ironic since some tried to paint them with the Lenny brush. Looking forward to updates on this.

[cloudagh]

I promised to come back here and post if Phoenix helped me any at all related to my crying over my 5 figure theft by Cascade.

They did not offer me a bonus that would cover all of that, but after some back and forth I did get a bonus offer that made sense to me and will recoup approx 15% of my Cascade balance.

Thanks to Phoenix for that and I will be obviously enjoying football with them this year.

P.S. My agent who helped me out is named Shawn

[biggie12]

Its funny im a regular at legendz.com and had around $4500 with them in my account.

Bet911 robbed for me $750 and legendz.com would not give me any kind of bailout whatsoever.

The next day i cashed out from legendz haven't been back since, what an awful way to treat (i would think more then regular type action customer)

[katstale]

Originally Posted by biggie12

Its funny im a regular at legendz.com and had around $4500 with them in my account.

Bet911 robbed for me $750 and legendz.com would not give me any kind of bailout whatsoever.

The next day i cashed out from legendz haven't been back since, what an awful way to treat (i would think more then regular type action customer)

Sounds like you need to hit up Phoenix and ask for "the deal you gave Cloud"!! lolol