[elzidane]

Hey friends.

I am the surebet.
I work with the bookmakers following: Gamebookers, Betsson, Bet365, Betfair, Betdaq Centrebet, Unibet, Expekt, Pinnacle, Unibet and 188Bet. For several years I use these bookmakers never had a problem with a bookmaker.

Now I will add to my list of bookmakers: Globetsport, Luxbet, Iasbet, 12Bet, Bet770, and BeSafe Tipico. Among the new sites I want to add is there any risk sites?

Thank you in advance for your answers.

[Ruifgalmeida]

Iasbet,12bet and betsafe are OK
the others I wouldnt put my money on it

[kiwi]

Tipico should be alright as well. They have many shops in Germany.

[JoeVig]

I am the surebet.

Is that to say you are offering a surebet service, or you make surebets for yourself?

[sgo]

You might add bwin too.

[Chopsticks]

Do some searches in the sbr forum and you will find a lot of useful information and player experiences.

Like how IASbet may require you to submit notarised documents, which means that you need to get a public figure (a lawyer/police officer/whatever) to sign his name to a copy of your passport and proof of residency. I am guessing the same goes with Luxbet. Actually this is the rule with most (but not all) australian bookies.

With Globetsport you may find that they don't accept your full bet outside office hours, and if you have a bet on something in the evening or late at night, they decide whether or not to accept it when they come in to the office the next morning - after the event has been played. According to posts, they can also be slow to accept the full amount you are requesting. You should not send your money to a bookie that has a non-existant system in place for risk management.

Bet770, can be slow to pay out, they like to phone you up apparently.

Betsafe, low limits. I will be surprised if you last more than a week if you plan on betting surebets there.

Tipico, they confiscated a lot of bonuses, closed accounts and basically told people they could do whatever they wanted. I would stay away.

What you could do though is look in to bookmakers like Stan James, Paddy Power and so on. They are safe and they pay fast. They frequently have the best odds but they don't like it when you take them.

[elzidane]

thank you well for your answers. In any case i' have an idea of the bookmakers whom I want to add. thank you well.

[elzidane]

Is that to say you are offering a surebet service, or you make surebets for yourself?

No, I am a player who makes surebets. I use www.betonvalue.com which makes my surebets.

[elzidane]

Like how IASbet may require you to submit notarised documents, which means that you need to get a public figure (a lawyer/police officer/whatever) to sign his name to a copy of your passport and proof of residency. I am guessing the same goes with Luxbet. Actually this is the rule with most (but not all) australian bookies.

Thank you Chopsticks.

So for Iasbet and Luxbet which requires a passport certifiers by (a lawyer/police officer/whatever). But i do not have a passport, in this case it will have what?
I' have that my driving licence.

[Chopsticks]

I see you posted in the IASbet too and looks like you got your response with a link to accepted documents...

Any form of ID that is good enough to prove your identity whereever you are now is probably good enough for them, so a drivers licence, passport, national identity card etc.

Also if you do sign up here but fail to provide the documents, I think they will suspend your account after 90 days. I know I read somewhere that if you fail to provide the proper documentation before one year, you have to apply to the regional/state/federal (can't remember which) government to have your money released -- of course in addition to providing the necessary documents.

I looked at the Luxbet and it looks like they actually send you a paper form that you need to fill out and get someone to sign it for you.

It is a lot of hassle just to be allowed to place a bet, but your funds will be pretty safe. But look through the IASbet news reports on the main sbr site, I am pretty sure that they confiscated bonus+winnings from a few people in the past for abusing the good spirit of the promotion. It is probably not a good idea to place surebets using what is essentially their money.

[juanluis]

Elzidane, how much along are you playing surebets?, does any bookie tell your bet is invalid because is a surebet, or anyone closed yor account for the same reason?

[elzidane]

I see you posted in the IASbet too and looks like you got your response with a link to accepted documents...

Any form of ID that is good enough to prove your identity whereever you are now is probably good enough for them, so a drivers licence, passport, national identity card etc.

Also if you do sign up here but fail to provide the documents, I think they will suspend your account after 90 days. I know I read somewhere that if you fail to provide the proper documentation before one year, you have to apply to the regional/state/federal (can't remember which) government to have your money released -- of course in addition to providing the necessary documents.

I looked at the Luxbet and it looks like they actually send you a paper form that you need to fill out and get someone to sign it for you.

It is a lot of hassle just to be allowed to place a bet, but your funds will be pretty safe. But look through the IASbet news reports on the main sbr site, I am pretty sure that they confiscated bonus+winnings from a few people in the past for abusing the good spirit of the promotion. It is probably not a good idea to place surebets using what is essentially their money.

Thank you for Chop.

But this history made sign are document is only at 888sport, Bluesquare Iasbet and Luxbet that exists, I believe well. If not with my know I do not know other bookmakers who do that.

[lukahh]

with most of bookies you list you will be limited soon i guess - at some to amounts below 10 or even 5$.
i think luxbet has an occasional excellent odd and higher limits, if you don't ming registration hassle and currency conversion.

[elzidane]

I risk amounts reasonable on each bookmakers with the result that I am not limited.

[JoeVig]

does any bookie tell your bet is invalid because is a surebet, ?

How would they know if you are covering somewhere else?

[Ruifgalmeida]

Elzidane, how much along are you playing surebets?, does any bookie tell your bet is invalid because is a surebet, or anyone closed yor account for the same reason?

I am not a surebet player , but the normal thing to happen is a limit(to pennies) your account if you are only using their services to arbing

[juanluis]

How would they know if you are covering somewhere else?

i have readen in another place there is bookmakers that exchange information beteween them.

In the post before rifgalmeida writes they can limit if you only use your account, maybe told this because he knows they can know , if what he said is that your account can close if you win is the same matter you win them with risk. I am glad to read you make money with arbs, i would like to do it in the next future. Really i am very glad.

[sgo]

some bookies are doing so, reducing drastically the max amount you can bet, others are not doing anything (and amusingly, surebets are slightly losing on these bookies on long term, which means their odds might be more accurate than those of their competitors...).

Anyway, profits with surebets are limited, and the hourly winning rate is not very nice....

[Johnny 55]

This thread is so wrong it is hurting my head, reading this is like watching fat people have sex.

[nikosgr]

Find here http://www.greenbook.gr/index2.php?depth0=15&sitelang=2 a complete list of bookmakers that you can arb with. And also, tips on how to use them.

[juanluis]

Find here http://www.greenbook.gr/index2.php?depth0=15&sitelang=2 a complete list of bookmakers that you can arb with. And also, tips on how to use them.

Good information

[elzidane]

Yes yes yes 10/10 MASTER nikosgr.

[Hareeba!]

Most of these books you have up their don't welcome winners. IF your account is in profit after opening and betting many games, they would give you really small limits or even close your account and ask you politely to leave.

very true based on my experience with several of those
you don't even need to win .. if you are taking top prices you are very quickly limited
you'd have to be arbing for mickey mouse money to survive long at most of them

[sportsbetwin]

If I had to put my life savings in one of the books listed it would be Luxbet.
Those who scoff have no clue.

[Hareeba!]

If I had to put my life savings in one of the books listed it would be Luxbet.
Those who scoff have no clue.

They'd certainly be safe with Lux but once you display any hint of knowing what you're doing on the punt your stakes will be cut back quite dramatically and quite often your bet will be rejected outright as they simultaneously reduce the odds

[kiwi]

Tipico, they confiscated a lot of bonuses, closed accounts and basically told people they could do whatever they wanted. I would stay away.

Did you play there yourself? I played there and never had problems (apart from beeing limited after a while). From my own experience and from the experiences of friends (not from internet stories) I would rate them between C+ and B. Solid book IMO.

[sgo]

If I had to put my life savings in one of the books listed it would be Luxbet.
Those who scoff have no clue.

I will put my life saving anywhere but not in a book !

[RW]

I will put my life saving anywhere but not in a book !

LOL

[loyd]

does any bookie tell your bet is invalid because is a surebet

i see you are not familiar with surebets so let me give you an exemple, a surebet is when you back the favorite at -120 at betjam and back the dog at +125 at pinnacle, that way securing yourself a risk free profit. from the bookie point of view, a surebet is just a normal bet, the bookie have no way of knowing you are betting the other side with another bookie .

[kostasgr]

Hey friends.

I am the surebet.
I work with the bookmakers following: Gamebookers, Betsson, Bet365, Betfair, Betdaq Centrebet, Unibet, Expekt, Pinnacle, Unibet and 188Bet. For several years I use these bookmakers never had a problem with a bookmaker.

Now I will add to my list of bookmakers: Globetsport, Luxbet, Iasbet, 12Bet, Bet770, and BeSafe Tipico. Among the new sites I want to add is there any risk sites?

Thank you in advance for your answers.

With big letters probably you never will take your money.The other 2 are aussie companies that means you will need to approve too many documents verified by police.

[BrianLaverty]

WTF is going on this thread?

[constrictor]

have you ever had a problem with a book?

[langtu017]

welcome you
you have a difference of sports business. surebets not.
I could get used to you not.
I want to talk to you about surebets