[nobs]

I got a offer for a free $100 no deposit account, so I figured I would try them out.

Rules on the free $100 account were very strict.

No Parlays
No Teasers
No Poker Playing
Must bring account up to $1500 and you can only withdrawal the amount over $1500
Also, max payout is $1000

Well I just played my $100 up to $2100 so I have put through a request for $600 payout. They only do withdrawals through mail check and after I put the request in it says they may contact me for a photo ID/Utility Bill, etc, then it says I should get payout within 10-20 days.

This is a D book, but I played at EnterBet ( an F book ) before I had ever heard of SBR and I I killed Enterbet and they always paid with no problem, so maybe oddsmaker will come through. If they do, I will deposit and use this book for NFL.

Has anyone else gotten this offer ? Did you get paid ? Does anyone play here, and do they pay ?

TIA

[biggie12]

NOBS i've had this offer last year during the middle of nba season i brough account upto $2200 and cashed out $700 after 3.5 weeks i got it, GOOD luck to you....... I have never deposited there and never will too shady but worth the freeroll.

[nobs]

Thanks biggie12

Good to hear that. I figure either way it was free so I dont lose anything but it would be nice to get the $600.

[Bill Dozer]

It's a free chance at $ so can't blame players for going for it. Congrats on your win and hop they pay you.

There have been many instances where they cheated players out of this bonus money. They'll look for reasons not to pay. It's not a bonus you want to trade out using another book with real money.

[minet123]

It's a free chance at $ so can't blame players for going for it. Congrats on your win and hop they pay you.

There have been many instances where they cheated players out of this bonus money. They'll look for reasons not to pay. It's not a bonus you want to trade out using another book with real money.

hey Bill whats you best guess on how much money they gave Kenny(RIP)

[Brp27345]

Hey Nobs... how did u go about receiving that kind of offer from them?

[JW Cash]

Sounds like there is something attached to anything FREE


There is no freeride....

[chrisharvard01]

nobs if you get paid dont deal with these guys anymore. they are real shady, just like dozer said. heard many stories of guys running up thousands and them stiffing.

they even have fake a_ss "VIP trips", which basically is a bunch of businessmen that lose a lot of money so they comp some lame trip for them and throw a few chicks their way. they cater to a player that loses. if you win they will stiff or just tell you to leave.

[nobs]

Hey Nobs... how did u go about receiving that kind of offer from them?

They just mailed it to me, not sure where they got my address and info

[nobs]

It's a free chance at $ so can't blame players for going for it. Congrats on your win and hop they pay you.

There have been many instances where they cheated players out of this bonus money. They'll look for reasons not to pay. It's not a bonus you want to trade out using another book with real money.

Thanks for letting me know Bill Dozer. I did make sure to follow the rules 100%, ( No Parlays, no teasers, no poker playing ). But there was no limit on amount of dollars you could risk per play, so I was pretty much betting it all each game and I won 5 straight games, a few were -150 to -180 favorites, so it ended up at 2100.

I hope they pay, but wont be holding my breath. Will post back as to how it turns out.

[robmpink]

Did you have $600 left or only cashed out for $600? They paid me in about 3 weeks about 3 years ago for $2,500. Don't sweat it. Give them time and you'll get it.

[2Bdown]

dont deposit any real money with them

[nobs]

Did you have $600 left or only cashed out for $600? They paid me in about 3 weeks about 3 years ago for $2,500. Don't sweat it. Give them time and you'll get it.

My balance was like $2096.80. I requested a withdrawal for the $596.80 as it says you can only withdraw the balance over $1500 and that once you withdraw they will deduct the $1500.

They have changed the rules a little as this says max withdrawal is $1000

[barza01]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dchpNwjfxa8

[craigpb]

No need to mess with books like these.

[playersonly69]

They have sent me that shit 4 times in the past 2 weeks

[Mthorn]

Recieved same offer, not sure how they had my address also.

[diamond]

they send all kind of offers, but dont care about them.

[bauerranch]

I have been waiting two weeks to get paid. I closed my account when I found this site and saw what their review was and now understand why

[deviantONE]

Hello..I just found this site/forum while searching about oddsmakers. I also got the free 100 offer a month ago and racked up 2627.72 and requested a check withdrawal for 1000. Hopefully they send it. I had trouble withdrawing because I didn't get a PIN when I first registered. But the online chat support got me my pin and emailed to me, they seem professional while I was chatting with them and answering my questions. Hopefully they send me the check!! I keep ya guys updated.

By the way this site is GREAT!! Wish I found this site earlier!

[deviantONE]

So I got a phone call today from oddsmaker. They ask if I would like to have my money credit into my account instead of a withdrawal. They say I could play poker, parley, teaser, etc.. without any restriction. I told the lady that I found a lot of bad review online and would like to see how the withdrawal process work before I decide to keep playing at oddsmaker with my own money.

I gotta give them credit for not stiffing me right away by acknowledging that I made a withdraw request.

edited: After I spoke with the rep. I checked my account and I notice they took the remaining balance out and have the $1000 withdraw transaction status as "processed". It was at "pending" this morning. SO seem good so far! Wish me luck!

[nobs]

Yes mine also says processed and the other $1500 had been deducted.

Hope they come through for us, it seems a lot more of us are getting the $100 up over $2000 then they probably expected.

[deviantONE]

nobs: Did they call you also and try to get you to keep that money in the account?

I was up 1500 on weds and betted it all on 4 nfl preseason game last night and won them all. Thanks to the nfl preseason and some mlb game I was able to reach over $2600 easily!!

[nobs]

I have recently recieved my check. Check is drawn on citibank

[nobs]

Made a withdraw of $590 on this free promo deal ( $2090 - $1500 ).

I took barely a week to recieve a check for $535.98. I dont know how they arrived at $535.98, I will just assume it was the withdraw costs. Cant expect them to cover withdraw costs considering this was a 100% free account. The check arrived through DHL.

So the check was a citibank check from DE which made it really easy to cash. It took my less than 5 minutes to get it cashed.

oddsmaker didnt call me or ask for any ID or try any other stall tactics.

All in all, it worked out great. Props to oddsmaker.

[deviantONE]

Crazy..I just got an email with dhl tracking number from oddsmaker. It's kinda weird that it getting shipped from Singapore! So I probably will get it next week.

I guess oddsmaker banked on opening week for NFL, thats why they are able to payout..lol

[Extra Innings]

u nutts?

[nobs]

yeah mine was from singapore too. But the check was citibank DElaware which made it easy to cash.

But there was $54.02 deducted from the check I assume for the withdraw fees. Still a great deal considering 0 deposit required.

[nobs]

u nutts?

why

[deviantONE]

u nutts?

yeah why? I didn't deposited any money in. It was the 100 free money offer I used. Sure I wasted some time doing it to take a chance of might getting free money from them. But hey why not, I didn't risk any of my money.

54.02? Thats odd, they told me they gonna deduct 45 for processing mine. So I should get 955.00!

[deviantONE]

Suck that I dont have any citibank bank around here. Just citibank loan locations.

[Extra Innings]

Do your thang Playboys

9/14/2010 02:03 PM
ODDSMAKER withdrawal feedback wanted
An ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) player has filed a payment complaint. The player indicates that he requested a $500 wire payment on August 23rd, which reportedly carried a 3-8 business day time-frame. This is the third outstanding payment complaint submitted against ODDSMAKER. Players with feedback or complaints against ODDSMAKER should write to help@sportsbookreview.com.

ODDSMAKER is FutureBet's biggest licensee. Futurebet has now rebranded itself as Gametech Solutions, after previously calling itself iGaming Software. The scam software provider has stiffed players and sportsbook operators millions of dollars.
8/18/2010 03:37 PM
ODDSMAKER to switch player's payout method in withdrawal complaint
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) update. On August 17th SBR reported on a sportsbook complaint involving ODDSMAKER. A player asked for $1,000 by wire on April 30th, and has not received payment. SBR followed up with ODDSMAKER management who confirmed the non-payment, and stated that arrangements would be made to send the player's $1,000 through an alternate processing method. | Read full ODDSMAKER complaint
8/17/2010 09:52 AM
ODDSMAKER payout delay #2
An ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) player wrote to SBR reporting a payout delay. On April 30th he asked for a $1,000 withdrawal by wire. As of today he has not received payment. ODDSMAKER has allegedly told the player to "wait for another few days" on more than one occasion. SBR has followed up with ODDSMAKER management.

ODDSMAKER is also slow-paying a second player $3,400, which was reported by SBR on July 27th. ODDSMAKER management has been unable to provide an update on the case other than saying the cashier department was aware of the issue.
8/12/2010 06:00 PM
ODDSMAKER withdrawal complaint update
On July 27th, SBR reported that an ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) player who requested a $3,400 check on April 30th had yet to receive his funds. After asking for his funds, confusion ensued when ODDSMAKER allegedly processed a 'wire' for his payment, despite the player never having provided banking details. ODDSMAKER ultimately conceded that they were mistaken and stated the check was en route, however, no check has been delivered. ODDSMAKER management stated it would follow up with accounting on the matter, but to date has not provided SBR with a sensible update.
8/2/2010 07:12 PM
ODDSMAKER player claims account is charged for deposit he didn't make
An ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) player has written in stating that his account was charged for a deposit he did not authorize. The player details seeing a $300 debit from his checking account, and that he discovered the adjustment was made to his ODDSMAKER balance. He denies making the transaction, and has stated that ODDSMAKER has since disabled his account after charge-back threats were made. SBR is investigating the complaint.

ODDSMAKER is Futurebet's biggest licensee. Futurebet has now rebranded itself as Gametech Solutions, after previously calling itself iGaming Software.

Editor's note: ODDSMAKER responds to deposit complaint

7/27/2010 12:54 PM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) withdrawal complaint
Withdrawal requested — $3,400 on April 30th.
Player issue — On January 9th a player deposited $250 to ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-). After a few months of play, his balance increased to more than $7000. On April 30th he requested a $3,400 withdrawal via priority check. The expected time-frame for delivery was 10 business days. The trouble began when the quoted time passed and no check had been received. The player followed up with ODDSMAKER to inquire and to his surprise was informed by the cashier department that his "wire" was sent. Taken aback by the claim, the player clarified that he requested a priority check and never at any point provided wiring instructions. ODDSMAKER was adamant that the wire had been sent and suggested he check his bank account for the funds. The book finally acknowledged the error a week later. ODDSMAKER then told the bettor it was in the process of canceling the wire and resending the funds via priority check. Two more months passed and no updates were given to the player on the status of this check.

No progress was made. The player submitted a sportsbook complaint to SBR.

SBR is currently in discussion with ODDSMAKER management, who said only the banking department could provide updates. When asked about the disconnect between management and the cashier department, an ODDSMAKER customer service manager stated that it could not comment on the company structure but would provide an update ASAP.

SBR will update this report. | ODDSMAKER is part of one of the largest online betting scams, FutureBet.
7/13/2010 01:07 PM
ODDSMAKER update — sportsbook addresses World Cup prop dispute
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) has addressed the July 12th World Cup Prop dispute which was filed over the grading of a margin of victory prop. A player wagered $200 on the "Draw" outcome and had his bet graded as a loser. ODDSMAKER's position is that the bet had to be a 'scoring draw', and that 0-0 was not considered a winner. ODDSMAKER claims that "scoring tie" was listed on the wager type, but has not yet provided evidence to substantiate. The player adamantly denies seeing any such notation.
7/12/2010 02:40 PM
ODDSMAKER prop dispute on World Cup final
An ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) player has filed a dispute over ODDSMAKER's grading of the 2010 World Cup finals margin of victory prop. The player bet $200 on the 'Draw' ; his wager was graded a loss as ODDSMAKER claimed only 'scoring draws' counted. SBR is following up with ODDSMAKER.
6/29/2010 01:04 PM
SportsInteraction cancels tennis wager on stale line after match conclusion
SportsInteraction (SBR rating B-) canceled a player's wager on the Wimbledon doubles match Mahut/Clement vs Fleming/Skupski. The winning wager, which he staked €110 on, was voided after the completion of the match. SportsInteraction's position is that there was a clear odds error. At the time of the player's wager, 5Dimes (SBR rating A+) had odds of 1.64 (or -156) on the match. The player's ticket was for 1.83 (or -120).

However, the odds on the match opened at approximately -120, which is what the player wagered. The day before the doubles match, Nicolas Mahut played a marathon match with John Isner which ended up being decided 70-68 in the 5th set. ODDSMAKERs felt Nicolas' physical endurance after the record-breaking match would be a questionmark that should effect the price of the doubles match, so the market was updated. SportsInteraction failed to react to this odds change.

This is commonly referred to as a 'stale line'. A stale line is a result of a linesmaker failing to update the odds of a particular event, as opposed to a 'bad line' which is a clear and obvious clerical error, such as a reversed pointspread or moneyline. In this case, SportsInteraction cited a bad line rule and voided the winning wager after the match ended. SportsInteraction has canceled bets after the events began before, as was done in this December 06 sportsbook dispute. As the odds the player accepted were in-line with the market at one point, SBR has suggested that SportsInteraction pay all wagers on the stale line. SBR will update this report pending SportsInteraction's decision.
6/5/2010 01:06 PM
ODDSMAKER player - $2499 slow-pay
An ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) slow-pay complaint has been reported. On May 6th a player deposited $1399 to ODDSMAKER and increased his balance after play to $2499. On May 12th the player made a withdrawal request for his $2499 balance via Neteller. As of June 5th, the funds have not been transferred to his Neteller account.
Editor's update - On June 8th the player reported receiving his $2499 balance.
5/8/2010 02:38 PM
ODDSMAKER comments on six month old slow-pay
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) has commented on the six month old slow-pay reported by SBR on May 7th. ODDSMAKER reinforced their initial position from SBR's December 29th report that the player supplied erroneous banking details; stating that the correction was applied on 12/31/09 but that the wire originally sent was not returned to ODDSMAKER's bank account. SBR is inquiring further.

ODDSMAKER:
We dont ask for bank information from our customer's at the time they open an account with us. Withdrawals are personally processed by our customers by going to their cashier account and entering the withdrawal amount, routing number and account number to where the withdrawal money will be sent. What happened is (the player) requested a withdrawal for $1000 on 11/01/09 however he entered the incorrect *************** info. The withdrawal has been processed by our cashier department and has been sent to the account and routing number that he entered. It was only on 12/30/09 that (the player) was able to provide his correct *************** information which is matching with the previous payments that he requested. As of now we are still trying to get the money back for us to work on with (the player's) request however we still have not received any response for the money back request that we sent.
5/7/2010 01:53 PM
ODDSMAKER slow-pay update
On January 28th SBR reported an update to an ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) slow-pay complaint. The player requested $1,000 via wire on November 1st. ODDSMAKER addressed the report by stating the player provided erroneous banking instructions; then later clarified to the player that it was their accounting department who had muffed up the details. As of May 7th the player's wire has still not been received. SBR is waiting for ODDSMAKER to address the situation.
4/15/2010 11:28 AM
ODDSMAKER slow-pay reported
An ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) slow-pay complaint has been reported to SBR. A player requested $300 in February of 2010 via wire and has yet to receive his funds. SBR is investigating the ODDSMAKER slow-pay complaint.
3/8/2010 03:50 PM
ODDSMAKER slowpay complaint
An ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) slowpay complaint has been filed. A player requested a $620 payout on January 28th and has yet to receive payment. SBR will contact ODDSMAKER to inquire on the payment status.
3/2/2010 08:13 PM
Bet911 cancels soccer bet citing bad line
On February 19th a Bet911 (SBR rating C-) player wagered on a Holland soccer match between Eredivisie Roda JC and Hercales. The player bet on Roda JC at +115. Seven minutes prior to the game beginning, Bet911 canceled the play. SBR has confirmed that other sportsbooks, including BetCris (SBR rating A+) opened at +115 before closing at -110. While the wager was voided before the game and cannot be settled, SBR will still speak to Bet911 on the case as they should not penalize players for their ODDSMAKER being slow to update their offerings - when the line was posted at Bet911 it was inline with the rest of the market.
2/11/2010 09:57 AM
ODDSMAKER player reports two year slowpay
An ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) player has written in with a two year old slowpay complaint. On 1/28/08 ODDSMAKER allegedly sent a $1,510.04 check to the player. The expected timeframe for receiving the check was 10-14 business days. More than two years later, the player has not received any explanation on if the check was in fact lost, nor has he been able to initiate a cancelation on the check. Customer service has not been able to validate the status of the check or communicate this with the player. SBR will inquire and update this report.
1/28/2010 04:58 PM
ODDSMAKER slow pay complaint update
On 12/29 SBR reported on an ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) slow pay complaint. A player requested $1000 via wire on November 1st. After waiting a month beyond ODDSMAKER's listed expected timeframe of 8 to 12 businessdays it was learned that the reason the payment was not applied was the player submit erroneous banking info. On 12/29 the correct information was supplied. As of 1/28 the payment has still not been made. SBR will ask ODDSMAKER for an update.
12/29/2009 10:46 AM
ODDSMAKER addresses slow pay complaint
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) has addressed the slow pay complaint reported by SBR on December 27th. The report detailed that a player who had requested a $1000 wire on November 1st had yet to receive his funds. ODDSMAKER has stated that the player submit wrong banking details and has asked that he resubmit his cash-out request.
12/27/2009 02:03 PM
ODDSMAKER slow pay reported
An ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) player has reported a $1000 slow pay. The player requested $1000 on November 1st via wire. His request was approved in the ODDSMAKER system on November 12th. The average time-frame for a wire was quoted as being 8-12 business days. The player has yet to receive his funds or a concrete explanation as to the delay.
12/23/2009 11:11 AM
ODDSMAKER deactivates another winning promo account
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) has deactivated a player's account that made a withdrawal request of $1500. The player accepted a $50 mailer promo offer, and began to bet with the promotional cash and rolled his balance to more than $1500. The player stated that he researched the free bet conditions and to the best of his knowledge was not in violation of ODDSMAKERs stringent fine-print. ODDSMAKER has not shed insight into why the account was suspended, and has only stated that the proper department was handling the case. ODDSMAKER has a long and continued history of sending out free bet promotions with non-standard and often times hidden wagering terms. ODDSMAKER's track record in situations such as these lend little hope to players being paid their balances should even a single exotic wager or parlay have been placed.
10/30/2009 02:09 PM
SportsbookUSA continues scam; players advised to avoid at all costs
SportsbookUSA (SBR rating F) continues to accept new player deposits while not paying winning bettors. The deposit-only sportsbook is on SBR's blacklist. SportsbookUSA is part of the IGaming Software/FutureBet family, which includes ODDSMAKER.com. ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) has attempted to distance itself from FutureBet despite their allegiance to the scam parent company.
8/9/2009 10:44 PM
ODDSMAKER burns three more winners with promotion fine print
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) software allows players to place parlays with their promotional funds but if the user places even one small parlay before a winning run, the sportsbook will cite the no-parlay fine print when the player requests a payout. Winnings will then be confiscated. The fine print regarding parlays is on the book's rules page but not supplied with the marketed promotional material. ODDSMAKER previously told SBR it would honor winnings earned prior to the point the first parlay was wagered, would add the rule to the correct website pages, and clarify the rule in its terms of service. The book has not made these changes and players continue to waste winning picks on an account that cannot yield a profit. Players who have added to their balance with deposited funds have also had winnings removed despite having their own funds at risk and enough deposited cash to cover winning wagers.

Player #1:
I was given $100 "bonus" from a flier I received in the mail that did not mention any stipulations, however I later found out, that the bonus amount must be wagered 10x, which is wagering a total of $1000 or more, and that you must subtract $1500, and the remaining balance could be cashed out, or continue to wager with it. I did all of this and now have a total of $3,283.81, in my account so after subtracting out their $1500, I should have $1,783.81 to my name. I was refused payout because I supposedly made an illegal parlay which apparently was not part of of the deal, why then was I allowed to make this bet and never warned that this bet was illegal until I tried to make a cashout!?

Player #2:
When i attempted to withdraw $1500 from my ODDSMAKER.com account, my entire account of $1749 was frozen and my funds seized. They claim I broke a bonus regulation although this was not bonus money and i had been making similar winning and losing bets for a month on their website with no problems.

Player #3:
I recieved a bonus from ODDSMAKER. I have been playing it and i clicked live chat to inquire why a wager didn't show up from the day before. The Rep 'andrew" quickly said i violated the terms and conditions by placing a parlay wager over a month before out chat knowing that i can only view back 30 days of wagers. He quickly then took all of the money out of my account and ended the chat session.
7/23/2009 05:26 PM
Dorobet owned by ODDSMAKER and BetonUSA principals
Sources tell SBR new German Sportsbook Dorobet (not rated) is from the owners of BetOnUSA (SBR rating D-) and ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-). The company is expected to make a marketing push after it adds its casino software.
6/24/2009 02:50 PM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) management tells SBR they have agreed to pay the player his $8,448 in winnings. The player is scheduled to receive his funds by check.
6/23/2009 10:28 PM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-)management tells SBR they are reviewing the decision not to pay player winnings of $8,500. | ODDSMAKER.com decision
6/18/2009 08:27 PM
ODDSMAKER.com steals $8,500 in winnings from player
In May of 2009 a player accepted a promotion offering $500 in free bets with a five time (5x) roll over (play-through) on his winnings that could not be withdrawn for 30 days. The player went on a winning streak and promptly turned the $500 in free plays into an $8,400 cash balance. The player told his father about the promotion. The father pursued the free-play from his residence in a different town but was denied due to the sportsbook targeting only specific bettors. The winning player was told that his winnings from the promotion will not be paid due to ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) taking issue with the fact that he shared the promotion with a third party without authorization. SBR has made its position clear that the matter of a third party's inactive account is not relevant to his winnings. ODDSMAKER has confirmed the facts of the player's complaint and stated they will not pay him his May winnings because he "lied" about being authorized to refer others to the promotion and was "rude and arrogant" to the ODDSMAKER.com staff.

Due to ODDSMAKER's poor reputation they are required to target players with big bonuses who may be uneducated about the industry. SBR routinely receives complaints from players who are lucky enough to go on a winning run only to find the sportsbook has created a reason to deny winnings. ODDSMAKER partnered with no-pay scam group Futurebet, now known as IGaming Software (IGS), in 2007. After Futurebet stiffed the majority of its licensee (turnkey) sportsbooks and kept its player deposits, it changed its brand name and website from Futurebet.com to IGamingSoftware.com. Shortly before it stole licensee and player funds it made ODDSMAKER and BetOnUSA (SBR rating D-) its main revenue sources. IGS staff denies association with Futurebet despite the obvious signs such as site similarities, management, and using the same unique server. SportsbookUSA (SBR rating F), was the one licensee owned by Futurebet and continues to operate as a deposit-only sportsbook site. | ODDSMAKER discussion
6/15/2009 07:05 PM
PlayTraders enters SBR rating guide at D-
PlayTraders is a licensee of IGaming Software (formerly called Futurebet) which operates from Vancouver, Canada. PlayTraders is a sister sportsbook of ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-). ODDSMAKER is currently paying the majority of its players although SBR will soon report at least one new case of stolen player funds. Sister sportsbook, SportsbookUSA (SBR rating F) has failed to pay players for years. SBR continues to receive no-pay complaints daily despite IGaming and ODDSMAKER ownership no longer marketing the soiled brand. Futurebet has stolen hundreds of thousands if not more than a million from players and licensees.
Forum: Futurebet | SportsbookUSA | ODDSMAKER
3/8/2009 11:47 PM
New SportsbookUSA (SBR rating F) victims learn they will likely not be paid
SBR continues to receive requests for help from players who are unaware that the sportsbook has owed other players for years. SportsbookUSA is owned by Futurebet Gaming which closed many of its hosted sportsbook brands, stiffing players and business partners in the process. A select few of the brands, namely D- rated BetOnUSA and ODDSMAKER, are now more than deposit-only sportsbooks. The two sportsbooks partnered with Futurebet in late 2007 shortly after it began shedding debt by stiffing sportsbook website owners it serviced. It then changed its official company name to Igaming Software.
SportsbookUSA player: I came across your contact info on a message board. I requested a withdrawal from sportsbookusa.com about a month ago and am getting no response and phone # appears to be disconnected. I have a cousin who works in the industry and he had told me quite awhile back that they were legit. I am concerened now though. Can you help?
1/29/2009 05:14 PM
SBR receives multiple reports of bounced checks from ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) players. The sportsbook tells SBR that all bounced checks will be reissued this week from their new processor. ODDSMAKER players are welcome to update SBR on check payouts.
1/24/2009 01:58 PM
DailyDime enters the SBR rating guide at D-
DailyDime.com is hosted and serviced, with the same website IP address and company license as AceCity (SBR rating D) and ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D), by Futurebet. The Futurebet flagship sportsbook prior to partnering with ODDSMAKER and BetOnUSA (SBR rating D-) was SportsbookUSA (SBR rating F). SportsbookUSA has stole hundreds of thousands, if not over a million, from its players. SBR still gets at least one email a week from new SportsbookUSA players who are asking for help collecting winnings. Players should avoid all affiliated sportsbook brands.
1/12/2009 11:06 PM
Players at scam sportsbook SportsbookUSA (SBR rating F) giving up on funds
Frustration has taken its toll on many players at Futurebet-owned SportsbookUSA. Although the sportbook continues to offer customer service for active players and bonuses for new players, it will not service players requesting funds. Customer Support simply apologizes saying they do not have a timeline for when money will be available. Futurebet is a business partner of BetOnUSA (SBR rating D-) and ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-). These sportsbooks should also be avoided at all costs.

Player: They now owe me over $9K. Tried to get my $3,818 for over two years now. Just cancelled it and have been playing with the money. Unfortunately winning! What should I do, anything? I feel like my hands are tied, should I just quit trying?

Player: I have been waiting on a payout to my neteller account of £1,681.22 (British pounds) since 12th April 2008!! All customer service say is that it is pending, being worked on by the accounts department, sorry for the delay blah blah blah. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
11/30/2008 11:42 PM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) freezes player's account after $8,000 withdrawal request
The player states ODDSMAKER locked his account in mid-November after an argument with a live chat representative. He is told that only a manager named Tony, who has not been available, can make decisions on his account. ODDSMAKER has not responded to SBR inquiries.
12.02.2008 (2:02 PM CST)
Update: ODDSMAKER tells SBR they have completed an investigation of the player's account, opened the account, and is processing his withdrawal request.
11/20/2008 01:27 PM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) bonus scam costs another player $1,500. The player player placed parlays and striaght wagers when betting with his ODDSMAKER try-us-out bonus money. A player has a parlay in his acount history will see his account set to zero when he eventually requests a payout. The sportsbook routinely allows players to make winning plays for months despite the fact that a parlay wager early in the account history will be reason to deny payout requets. The fine print regarding parlays is on the book's rules page and not supplied with the promotion. ODDSMAKER previously told SBR they would honor winnings prior to when the first parlay wager was made, would add the rule to the correct website pages, and clarify the rule in its terms of service. The book has not made these changes and players continue to waste winning picks on an account that cannot yield a profit. Players who have added to their balance with deposited funds have also had winnings removed despite having their own funds at risk and enough deposited cash to cover the wager.
ODDSMAKERs.com sent me an email for a free $200 account which had no strings or restrictions. Over the months between baseball and football wagers, I built it up to $2,000, then lost some where I currenty have juslt under $1,500 sitting in a real money account. I wanted to request a $500 cashout as I was laid off from my job. When I talked with live chat requesting one, they said I couldn't have one since I didn't meet the so-called conditions of terms.
Now, when I went back to check my real money balance, they wiped it out completely showing 0 balance just because I asked for a PIN. Why didn't they wipe this out long, long, ago, why wait until I ask for a PIN over 8 months later?
10/4/2008 03:49 PM
New MayaGaming (SBR rating F) player complains of waiting for $2400 for two months. It is unlikley the player will see any of his funds. MayaGaming, not to be confused with MayanSports (SBR rating D+), is one of the Futurebet operated sportsbooks that remain online only to collect player deposits. Many of the lesser Futurebet brands that are not deemed optimal websites for marketing were left on autopilot, existing only to take player funds. Futurebet swallowed hundreds of thousands in deposits shortly after refocusing all resources on new partner which operates ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) and BetOnUSA (SBR rating D-).
9/29/2008 09:17 PM
Deposit-only sportsbook MayaGaming (SBR rating F) nabs new victim
Player: I have an account at mayagaming.com and when I tried to withdraw in May 2007 i was not paid. Asking them about this problem they told that the payout is pending for the first two responses, after that they stopped to respons to my mails. I found out about your site and I hoped you can help me ! Is this site a scam? Do I have any chances to get back my money? I thank you in advance for your response!
Futurebet now calls itself iGamingSoftware or IGS and will deny it has any relation to Futurebet when questioned by prospective clients. Players can identify these fly-by-night websites by the platform's IGS ClickCashier banking system. Examples include https://account.clickcashier.com/ODDSMAKER/ and the unbranded version used by MayaGaming, https://account.clickcashier.com/IGS/. Players aware of an unrated clickcashier casino or sportsbook are urged to contact SBR.
9/14/2008 12:36 PM
SpyCasino (SBR rating F) closes with player funds
Futurebet's SpyCasino was accepting deposits until as recently as late August and has owed players since late 2006. During the last year the sportsbook served as a deposit-only scam site for Futurebet. The domain name has expired and players are no longer able to see their account balances. SpyCasino was the second Futurebet-operated site to close with player funds in two weeks. USDbet (SBR rating F), which primarily marketed to sports forum posters, also went off-line with a debt to players. Futurebet now claims to be IGaming Software and unaffiliated with the Futurebet brand. ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) and BetOnUSA (SBR rating D-) are the main sources of revenue for the group.
8/3/2008 11:48 PM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) promotion stings new player
Player: i got this $100 promotion from them and went 5-0 and won $2300 and when i try to withdraw they said that i violated the promotion because i cannot parlay. The letter never stated that i can't parlay..now i am out of $2300 and they cleared out my account completely....very sad day
ODDSMAKER previously told SBR they would honor winnings prior to when the first parlay wager was made, would add the rule to the correct website pages, and clarify the rule in its terms of service. The book has not proceeded with these changes and players continue to waste winning picks on an account that cannot yield a profit. ODDSMAKER.com operates one of the largest bettor email marketing campaigns and uses multiple tactics like this to attract the most players with minimal overhead.
7/23/2008 11:34 PM
SCAM Alert: GoRake enters the SBR Rating Guide at F. GoRake is a new poker room and sportsbook from FUTUREBET, now calling itself IGaming Software. FUTUREBET is servicing multiple no-pay sportsbooks like SportsbookUSA (SBR rating F) and USDbet (SBR rating F). USDBET, which remains online as a deposit-only sportsbook website, is marketing 100% bonuses. GoRake shares the same IP address as flagship IGaming site, ODDSMAKER.com (SBR rating D-).
7/17/2008 11:08 PM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) refuses to settle wager dispute; acknowledges fault
The player was told his wager, which was an NBA bet placed in June, would be re-entered into the system to reflect the wager he intended to make. The player was told after the game by the sportsbook manager that the ODDSMAKER customer service representative was wrong and the bet he said he would change could not be altered.
Player: I did an if-win on the Celtics last week and if it won, then i had the yankees-
both won- but when i entered the wager on the celtics, the wager was wrong- it said i had the over- I called before game time- the customer service manager said he would fix it. he never did. I had their financial executive call me and say that whoever told me they would fix it was lying. he said they dont speak good english and shouldnt have told me that it was fixed- he said that he admitted that probably happened but since I am up on their sportsbook, they wouldnt be doing anything for me regarding this.
i am not sure why it matters if i am up on them. I am up $59. This was a $2400 swing!! I know you cant do much about it, but warning others will be great! thanks
6/18/2008 10:51 PM
New sportsbook, PokersDNA, enters rating guide at F
PokersDNA is the newest Futurebet Scam sportsbook to enter the SBR Rating Guide. Futurebet now calls itself iGamingSoftware or IGS and will deny it has any relation to Futurebet when questioned by prospective clients. Players can identify these fly-by-night websites by the platform's IGS ClickCashier banking system. Examples include https://account.clickcashier.com/ODDSMAKER/ and the unbranded version used by PokersDNA, https://account.clickcashier.com/IGS/. Players aware of an unrated clickcashier casino or sportsbook are urged to contact SBR.
6/14/2008 10:56 PM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) cancels winning bets; cites bonus terms
A new player accepted a free $200 account offer from ODDSMAKER. He also deposited $500 in order to increase the amount of money he could risk at once. The sportsbook confiscated all winnings including money won from the player's deposit. ODDSMAKER states that the player made a parlay which is against the bonus terms and the reason for management's decision.

Player: I got the letter offering a $200 bonus for signing up. $200 is too little to play so I added $500 cash at the same time. That gave me $700 to play with. I ran it to $3600 winnings that weekend when I inquired how much of it was available for withdrawal they told me none that I had broke the rules by betting a parlay. I made a good 20 straight bets before any parlay and then another 20 bets after that.

All those bets were in the $100-$300 range. When they refused to pay I asked if they were going to refund my $500 if I had lost. Of course not, so what they were saying is I risked $500 cash with no chance of winning and they weren't going to let me know I broke the rules or was playing for nothing until 1) I went broke 2) I tried to make a withdrawal.

In my mind the bet I broke the rules on (which I was unaware of) should have voided the $200 and either 1) they notify me 2) All bets from then on were good. In reality considering I never lost the $200 all bets should have counted. They continued to let me make numerous bets and run up the figure and if I hadn't inquired can you imagine if I had ran it to 10 or 15 large how much more pissed I had been. You know in this business you go hot and cold I got hot at the wrong time with the wrong book. I probably lose $30,000 to $40,000 a year. To win back 3,000-4,000- is a good weekend. What really pissed me off is I had bets pending. When I called and those bets weren't honored after all was said and done I was really irked. They told me my figure would be reset to $500 after ALL pending bets were graded.Go figure. Thanks for your help.
4/8/2008 11:20 PM
Bet1128 (SBR rating C-) voids wagers after lines change in players' favor
SBR received five complaints from Bet1128 players who had valid bets canceled in 2007. Bet1128 has claimed that linesmakers made "an obvious error" when they fail to move the line with the betting market.

Player on 3/13/08: Yesterday I was treated unfairly by bet1128 (bet1128.com - former Paradisebet). They voided my bets on Chilean League match Palestino vs Huachipato claiming there was a mistake in the odds. This however clearly was not the case. True that at the time I placed these bets their odd for away team was above market average. Their were among the last to keep it that high. But this was caused by general line movement on this game yesterday morning and surely not by ODDSMAKER's mistake. I placed two bets around 06:30 GMT and they voided them almost three hours later when these bets were indeed in quite a contrast with market average odd. I intervened by sending an e-mail and on live chat service but to no avail. I am not expecting you to waste your time to take up this case with them as I am fully aware they have a history of such practices and the chance to reverse the decision (one bet would be won) is minimal. My main point is that a wider public read this and know what they can expect from this sportsbook.

Player 2: The draw was available at 3.6-3.8 in a few places and Huachipato at 5.5-5.80 in a few places as well. What it happened is that there was a very big move on the odds in that match and they got caught as many other bookmakers.But instead of honour their odds as everyone does they just claim that their odds were wrong and they void all bets. I think this is totally unacceptable and I would like you to make public their decision in your website and review their rating accordingly.
3/1/2008 08:35 PM
CrystalCasino enters the SBR rating guide at D-. Crystal's web server shares the same IP address as ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) and is the newest sportsbook from the Futurebet Scam Group to enter the SBR Rating Guide.
2/28/2008 11:06 PM
LuckyHog (SBR rating F), formerly a Futurebet label, tells SBR posters about being stiffed by Futurebet and states it will, and has, covered player balances. Players who are owed by LuckyHog or have been recently paid by the book are asked to contact SBR. LuckyHog is currently a poker room only while the website states that the sportsbook is "coming soon." Futurebet still operates some of its larger brands such as ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) and BetOnUSA (SBR rating D-). The books partnered with the Futurebet network after it refused to pay its smaller licensees. LuckyDog has been upgraded to D. The site left the Fututebet network without pending complaints.
2/24/2008 11:45 PM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) player places $50 losing parlay; book takes $1,018.75
The player used a $100 promotional offer to build his account to $1,018.75. He then learned he overlooked a rule stating that parlays are not allowed. He also learned that the consequence of breaking this rule, which is not listed, is voiding all bets. Many players who bring the account over $1000 find that ODDSMAKER finds a reason to void their winnings. ODDSMAKER told SBR last month that they planned to update their terms of service but has yet to do so.

Player: About three months ago ODDSMAKER direct mailed me with an offer to open an account and get a $100 Free Bonus upon registration. I opened an account and turned the $100 bonus into $1,018.75. I then contacted ODDSMAKER's "LIVE Chat" to learn when I was able to withdraw money from the account. Service advisor "Pamela" told me that I had to hit $1,500 through straight bets only, e.g. no parlays or teasers, before I could make a withdrawal. I told "Pamela" that I only played straight bets with one exception being a sole $50 parlay that was a losing ticket. Upon learning about the one parlay, "Pamela" chose to reset my account, e.g. nullified all my winnings, citing that I violated the bonus disclaimer. I am totally stunned to say the least about the resetting of the account as I was not aware of the straight bets only rule. Surely, this can't be right. I placed only one parlay and it is just totally unfair and unacceptable to me that this leads to a nullification of all bets placed. Indeed, the parlay was a loser and was played after the $100 Free Bonus had been turned over a number of times on straight wagers. I worked very hard turning the $100 into more than $1,000 just for ODDSMAKER to undo this by a very harsh, unfair and unreasonable rule interpretation. The terms of conditions related to this particular bonus (copied in below) does indeed NOT state that any rule violation - no matter how petty - leads to total nullification of all wagers placed. I can understand if I lose my $100 Free Bonus, but to have all winnings taken away because of a $50 parlay loser makes absolutely no sense to me and I think that ODDSMAKER is totally out of line by doing so.
2/3/2008 11:22 PM
AceCity enters the SBR Rating Guide at D-. AceCity is a sister book of ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-). ODDSMAKER ownership has closed its less successful sportsbook brands in the past while stiffing large players. ODDSMAKER sister book BetOnUSA (SBR rating D-) recently forced a player to accept about half of a six-figure casino jackpot win. Players are advised to avoid AceCity.
1/19/2008 11:20 PM
Player vs. ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) Update
ODDSMAKER originally voided almost $1000 in winnings after the player placed a $5 parlay with promotional funds. ODDSMAKER rules state that parlays will not be accepted in connection with these bonus funds but do not address subsequent winning bets. ODDSMAKER did state that they would be adding a statement in their rules that would inform future players that a single parlay bet may result in confiscation of other winnings from the bonus. ODDSMAKER has since credited the player with $73, the amount won prior to the offending parlay wager. BigJuicyOdds (SBR rating D+) read the SBR complaint report and has given the player a $1,000 free account with a 10x rollover.
1/10/2008 10:36 PM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) voids player's $800 winnings from free $100 promotion
The player was able to use the book's free $100 promotional offer to win $800 for a total balance of $900. He then placed a parlay bet bringing the account over $1000. Parlay wagers are against the promotion's terms and conditions. Instead of canceling the winning parlay, all wagering activity was erased and the bettor was "reset" to the original $100. ODDSMAKER's sister book BetOnUSA (SBR rating D-) is known for marketing free money offers to certain users and finding reasons to avoid paying those who manage to reach the required $1,500 mark. | Complaint & Promotion Terms
12/31/2007 12:27 AM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) & Futurebet tries to scam potential book owner
The sportsbook operation blatantly lies to an individual interested in owning a gambling site, trying to convince him that IGamingSoftware is not the new name for, or affiliated with, Futurebet. "IGS Ron" tells the potential site owner that ODDSMAKER is one of the books that IGS owns and it is not Futurebet, forgetting that the ODDSMAKER cashier page is labeled as "Futurebet payment systems." Futurebet Gaming stiffed the majority of its white label webmaster clients in 2007 while moving ODDSMAKER and BetOnUSA to the gaming platform which it renamed IGamingSoftware or "IGS." The partnership with ODDSMAKER and sister site BetOnUSA is the primary source of revenue for Futurebet ownership.

Dear Sir/Madam, I was contacted by Mr.Ron **** from FutureBet now(IGS), and he tried to pull off a similar scam with me as well, but thanks to your website I was saved, I am ready to testify at any point if you wish because you just saved I don’t know probably 500K of mine and I am very glad that I checked your website. I have sent a copy of my conversation with him in an email just so that you know that he is still active and doing this. He had called me last week and given me figures for starting up a casino from scratch which are as below:

70,000 Software
20,000 Reserve
15% Monthly Royalty
1500 Monthly Maintenance

Thank you once again SBR! | See email exchange
12/4/2007 09:45 PM
Dimeline Sportsbook (SBR rating D) player confirms payout
A DLS player confirmed receiving $1500 via check today. The sportsbook has been unable to pay players since September and blamed stiff operation, Futurebet. The Canadian company is not processing withdrawals on behalf of its sportsbooks with the exception of BetOnUSA (SBR rating D-) and sister book, ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-). Dimeline tells SBR that it had to pay players through private processing after being denied reserves and earned revenue from Futurebet wagering services.
11/21/2007 06:24 PM
SafariCasino, MayanSports and BetTheGlobe upgraded from F to D. The books' owner reports paying all players with privately held funds due to Futurebet's unwillingness to pay. Futurebet is withholding its licensee's funds while refusing to pay its users. Some Futurebet sportsbooks have closed down while others are attempting to work out deals to move player balances to other sportsbook operations, like Linesmaker.co.uk (SBR rating D+) has done. SBR expects only Futurebet-owned SportsbookUSA (SBR rating F) and new Futurebet partners BetOnUSA (SBR rating D-) & ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) players to receive payments from the Futurebet cashier. Players should avoid these scam books which have proven they are not opposed to stealing funds.
11/2/2007 11:44 AM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) confiscates $1,500 balance
A player was able to take a $100 free-cash offer and bring his account up to $1,500 with six winning wagers but was told his winnings were void because the same player account was previously credited with the $100, which was lost. The sportsbook requires players to reach a balance of $1,500 before they may withdraw winnings derived from the bonus money. ODDSMAKER's sister book BetOnUSA (SBR rating D-) is known for finding reasons not to pay players who manage to make the $1,500 mark and for "mistakenly" crediting the same accounts twice or more, sometimes years after the bettor has first lost the bonus money. Crediting players who have already received the bonus gives the book a free shot at bringing in inactive customers who never actually have a chance to win. The sportsbook is aware of which players are receiving the offer as it is targeted to specific players and is not marketed to the general public.
10/7/2007 11:48 PM
Player's PyramidCasino (SBR rating D-) $9,500 balance disappears
The sportsbook was part of the BetOnUSA Group (Empire Entertainment Ltd) before BetOnUSA moved its network of sportsbook websites under the Sportsbook.com Group (Jazette Enterprises Ltd) in December of 2006. When BetOnUSA chose to cut ties with Jazette and move its websites to the SportsbookUSA Group (Futurebet) last month they redirected PyramidCasino.com to land at BetOnUSA.com. Most PyramidCasino account holders can log in at BetOnUSA (SBR rating D). This player has been told by BetOnUSA that they have not received the funds from the Sportsbook.com operation and are not responsible for the balance despite owning the site, which now points to BetOnUSA. Sportsbook.com management claims the player debt belongs to BetOnUSA despite that funds were won when the site was managed by the Sportsbook.com Group and the player currently being able to log in to his zeroed out account using the Jazette-operated Sportsbetting.com (SBR rating D+). This is the second player to report that the two companies are playing hot potato with his balance. A player who won over $100,000 from BetOnUSA's casino has not been able to access the $85,000 that was remaining in his BetOnUSA account. Both companies claim the debt belongs to the other. BetOnUSA is owned by the same group that owns ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-). These issues serve as a reminder of the added risk that comes with playing at turnkey sportsbooks.
8/15/2007 11:02 PM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) slow-paying clients including its non-US players. The sportsbook has been relisted in the SBR rating guide as a member of the Futurebet Group of sportsbooks and should be avoided. ODDSMAKER is now relying on Futurebet's cashier and PlayerSupport services as well as its software. The group's payout complaints are on the rise as they are each year before the start of the betting season.

Player: i am ******* from morocco i send you this email to do a complaint i am a player in ODDSMAKER.com( Account # ***** ) it is now 3 mounth i did the request for my third withdrawal request for an amount of 4000 euros and my request has not yet released please contact the bookmaker and ask it to send me my winnings , i am very tired to contact it without answer.
2/27/2007 10:35 AM
ODDSMAKER (SBR rating D-) new sportsbook from former ownership of BetOnUSA (SBR rating D-). BetOnUSA sold it’s family of sites to Jazette Enterprises Limited (Sportsbook.com Group) in December of 2006. BetOnUSA is most known for giving players a free $50 account and then denying payouts to the few who are lucky enough to build their balance up to the $1,000 minimum required to withdraw.
2/3/2007 11:37 AM
sbrodds.com shows the Super Bowl XLI line offered at 6.5 and 7. Currently BetCascade (SBR rating B) is hanging the best line on the Indianapolis Colts at -6.5 -105 while Bears backers are hoping to see ODDSMAKERs move to 7.5 before game time. ThePIG (SBR rating A-) is currently giving the Chicago Bears the +7 at -110.

[Extra Innings]

In the end....nothing is for free....

[deviantONE]

In the end....nothing is for free....

So far it worked out fine for nobs and its looking good for me too (received a tacking number without calling them or harassing them.

Most of those complaint is because they didnt take time to follow the rules/fine prints. Both nobs and I did follow the rules of their promotions and they seem to payout within their timeframe as they promised.

I'm not recommending them to anybody, I'm just stating the facts about my dealing with them so far with their free 100 offer. Will I consider to use them again? Maybe, maybe not, BUT if I do decide to use them again I would be very cautious!

[nobs]

Player #1:
I was given $100 "bonus" from a flier I received in the mail that did not mention any stipulations, however I later found out, that the bonus amount must be wagered 10x, which is wagering a total of $1000 or more, and that you must subtract $1500, and the remaining balance could be cashed out, or continue to wager with it. I did all of this and now have a total of $3,283.81, in my account so after subtracting out their $1500, I should have $1,783.81 to my name. I was refused payout because I supposedly made an illegal parlay which apparently was not part of of the deal, why then was I allowed to make this bet and never warned that this bet was illegal until I tried to make a cashout!?



The rules clearly stated that if you play a parlay or transfer the money to the player to player poker room your funds would be erased.