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Old 06-22-10, 05:43 PM   #1
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How does Pinnacle receive an A+ rating when they don't allow U.S. Customers Can anyone answer that.
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Old 06-22-10, 05:48 PM   #2
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Because the world doesn't revolve around the US?

In all seriousness though, the US isn't the only country on Earth, and for players outside of the US Pinnacle offers far away the best prices across the board of any bookie going. It would be a travesty if SBR did not give them an A+.
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Well, lets be real here. Its Pinny which is the gold standard. Everyone is striving to be just a little of them. Its not even a close second to whoever. Left my country to continue playing there. Thats who they are!
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Because any form of gambling transaction is still technically illegal in the States. I just think because of the size of money and gambling thats allowed for pinnacle, it really does bring in a lot of heat. Of course I feel lucky because i don t live in the states, but where else can you make 10-20 grand bets and safely and not worry about getting paid for winning. I also can t think of any place that gets my payouts via neteller over 10 grand in almost 5-10 mins.
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Well, lets be real here. Its Pinny which is the gold standard. Everyone is striving to be just a little of them. Its not even a close second to whoever. Left my country to continue playing there. Thats who they are!
Where did you go? Was it just to bet sports? Or do you also do other stuff?
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Old 06-23-10, 04:34 AM   #6
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they said they won't return to US market even though the online gambling becomes legal in US someday.
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How does Pinnacle receive an A+ rating when they don't allow U.S. Customers Can anyone answer that.

there are several sites, which don't take US players either, still A or A+
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this is the most stupid post I ever seen.
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Old 06-23-10, 06:43 PM   #9
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this is the most stupid post I ever seen.
If you have something to say then say it and give a reason. Your comment was stupid because you did not back it up with anything. Pinnacle has an A+ grade which in my book means perfect yet they do not accept wagers from the US hmm seems like they should have a lower grade. BACK THAT UP if you can.
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Old 06-23-10, 06:47 PM   #10
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A+ grade means perfect in my book yet they don't accept wagers from the US market. I know Europeans think their shit and OIL don't stink but the US is too big a market too ignore. A+ is not a realistic grade for Pinnacle for that reason imo.
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Old 06-23-10, 07:55 PM   #11
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Because any form of gambling transaction is still technically illegal in the States. I just think because of the size of money and gambling thats allowed for pinnacle, it really does bring in a lot of heat. Of course I feel lucky because i don t live in the states, but where else can you make 10-20 grand bets and safely and not worry about getting paid for winning. I also can t think of any place that gets my payouts via neteller over 10 grand in almost 5-10 mins.
This
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Old 06-23-10, 11:48 PM   #12
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Pinnacle is the greatest book ever.... high limits, reduced juice, slick software, quick and reliable payouts...

It may not serve the entire betting population, but those it does, it serves extremely well
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Old 06-24-10, 12:00 AM   #13
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I was at Pinnacle before all the legalities and they're definitely A+. No doubt at all. Like someone else said, their service, lines...shit, everything was great when I was there. Wish they'd open it up, or at least allow players who were there before, to still play. VIP.com does that. C'mon dude. Doesn't make sense to say they don't deserve an A+. It's the "World Wide Web" and they handle their business
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How does Pinnacle receive an A+ rating when they don't allow U.S. Customers Can anyone answer that.
What's in their control they are A+.
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Old 06-24-10, 09:07 AM   #15
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Pinnacle is the best bookie in the world, the best odds,best payouts, best service, bigest bets that you can find. The fact that they accept americans is not something to review a Book.If they stoped to accept Europeans they would be still a A+++++++++++.

ps-Pinnacle accepts bets from Americans but not with and American IP.

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A+ grade means perfect in my book yet they don't accept wagers from the US market.
Because the American government thinks you and your money belongs to it, and thus it's legally dangerous to offer gambling services there.

The US is only a small part of the world, pinnacle do just fine off the rest.
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Although I do agree that Pinnacle should be an A+ regardless if allowed in USA, I do feel that people should back up their statements and people who say things like "your an idiot" even if they are an idiot, should back it up with some rational arguments & facts.
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A+ grade means perfect in my book yet they don't accept wagers from the US market. I know Europeans think their shit and OIL don't stink but the US is too big a market too ignore. A+ is not a realistic grade for Pinnacle for that reason imo.
If you get denied at the door of a club by the bouncers, you assume that the club must not be that good if they don't let you in?
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If you don't allow customers from every country then you don't deserve the top grade, END OF STORY!!!! Pinnacle Brown Nosers should still be happy if the grade was lowered to an A-
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If players will leave their home country for Pinny that deserves an A+ in my book too.

IMO Omegaman I'd just stop while you're ahead.
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Are all these replies that are in favor of Pinnacle keeping their A+ rating from only european users? If the answer is Yes then my point that they don't deserve an A+ is certainly relative to where a user is from.
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Are all these replies that are in favor of Pinnacle keeping their A+ rating from only european users? If the answer is Yes then my point that they don't deserve an A+ is certainly relative to where a user is from.
It's not just European users. In the grand scheme of things, Pinnacle is doing more business worldwide than any other sportsbook. Why do you think that is? And why do you presume that a company needs the blessing of the USA to be considered top-notch...?
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Are all these replies that are in favor of Pinnacle keeping their A+ rating from only european users? If the answer is Yes then my point that they don't deserve an A+ is certainly relative to where a user is from.
Even players in the US who can not bet with pinnacle rely on pinnacle and more importantly hope that someday a book that excepts US players will step up and offer the service that pinnacle offers.

A+
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Because they were mentioned on an episode of the Sopranos.
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Omegaman They accept everybody from the world. They will take , Brazilians, Argentinians, Panamanians, Italians, Egyptians, South Africans, Australians. ALL THE COUNTRIES, EXCEPT USA. lol
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Are all these replies that are in favor of Pinnacle keeping their A+ rating from only european users? If the answer is Yes then my point that they don't deserve an A+ is certainly relative to where a user is from.
Barking up the wrong tree. Write your congressmen.
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The problem is not pinnacle, the problem is your American Laws, Pinnacle takes money of everybody, but for some reason they dont want to have problems with USA LAW, it is understandable.
American Pros and high rollers still find ways to make bets there, just because the odds are that good.
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Because the world doesn't revolve around the US?
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Pinnacle is a must have in my opinion if you live outside the US

I have accounts with multiple books and I find myself playing 99% of my plays at Pinny and Matchbook.

They blow the rest out of the water.
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NO.
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Old 06-26-10, 03:13 PM   #31
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Well, if you happened to pay attention during geography class you would realize there's an abundance of other countries in this world of ours.
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Pinnacle also doesn't take members from the Netherlands, where I am from (or even the Netherlands Antilles, where they are based).
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there are 6 billion people live on the earth, all of them live in USA ??

so, my life is a "thruman show".oh my god!

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E for us citizens.Oh yeah and Netherlands and A+ for everywhere else.My Favorite book, other then a couple of log in issues i have had no problems they have been almost perfect
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I know it stinks that pinnacle can t be played in the United States, but again, technically all forms of gambling transactions online are illegal. Pinnacle is not doing anything wrong here technically. where else can you get a withdraw of over 10k in 10 mins?
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