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Old 06-19-10, 09:56 PM   #1
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Hey everyone,

I think I've just been scammed by Bestake.com.

I've been waiting for a withdrawel request for 2000 Euro to clear and logged in to check if anything had happened.

There was a link in blue in the centre of the page "Express Withdraw - Show me the money" which was not remotely similar to the regular "Place Bet" button.

I clicked it wondering what it was about and suddenly my balance is zero (was 3083.88 Euro) and I have 6 matched bets for upcoming world cup games randomly selected... There is no way most of them are winners..

"WHAT THE?????" I'm thinking. So I look at the rules and find this...

"New Feature - Show Me The Money

When you are choosing this option the system will automatically choose 6 events to win, all your found in the account will be split between those events.
you must win all the games ( all the games are considered as one event), if you lose one game your will lose the whole event.
The winner will get a withdraw after 4 hours guaranteed of the last event + 15% bonus of the winning amount.


Customers should familiarize themselves with these rules from the Information box in each particular event."


That was never in my betting slip.... DAMM SCAMMERS!!! BEWARE, I will be trying to contact the basterds.

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Old 06-20-10, 01:44 AM   #2
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why did you keep that much in this rubbish exchange in the first place?
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Old 06-20-10, 02:35 AM   #3
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hello, I have been the same problem this morning, I am too waiting for a withdrawal of € 7,000, I clicked on the buton and my money gone. All money wagered in 6 games this random, what happens with this site ....
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Old 06-20-10, 03:16 AM   #4
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I didn't know about the SBR approved list until this morning, and bestake.com aren't on it. My own fault. I guess the money will be gone. Just want to get the word out...
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Old 06-20-10, 03:22 AM   #5
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Experienced the same. Sadly I lost much more.

Do you think there's anything we can do?
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Old 06-20-10, 05:11 AM   #6
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I guess we can HOPE that they cancel our bets (mine have few days left - not that it matters I think) and let us have our money...

Lodge complaints where you can...
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Old 06-20-10, 05:18 AM   #7
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I think there is no way this can happen. It's a fraud, they will never do this, also because they dont have the money to pay our winnings.
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Old 06-20-10, 05:40 AM   #8
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But perhaps before you press the button you had read the instructions, I have not crushed and I still have my money there, but they probably will not ever see again that money

organize legal action against them? I already have my lawyer with all documentation in hand to begin my legal action

make a group on facebook?
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Old 06-20-10, 05:45 AM   #9
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I'm in...just wondering, what do we need the facebook groud for?
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Old 06-20-10, 05:48 AM   #10
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For what? Legal action against them! Useless!
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Old 06-20-10, 05:59 AM   #11
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hello .is there any way to get the money back.i lost 8000 euro
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Old 06-20-10, 06:18 AM   #12
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I've had a look on their site - never heard of them - but can't find the particular button you're talking about. Do you have to be a registered member to see it? I'd recommend you take a screenshot of how it appears on the screen. If it really says "express withdrawal - show me the money" as part of 1 button, that sounds very misleading.
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Old 06-20-10, 06:21 AM   #13
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The button doesn't appear anymore. After pushing the button, the bets are placed. I guess that only someone who hasn't pressed it yet could have that screenshot. But it really said "express withdrawal - show me the money".
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Old 06-20-10, 06:50 AM   #14
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I've lost € 9,600, if anyone thought that we can do something against them we can try
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Old 06-20-10, 06:58 AM   #15
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the stakes for these parties is increasing and increasing,so the people continue to delude....wtf
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Old 06-20-10, 06:59 AM   #16
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I agree, it seems that there are at least 4-5 of us. I doubt that the name of the owner on the site is real, but it shoul be easy to find out who is the real owner. My only doubt is that if the company is in Costarica it will be very hard the make legal action...I don't know, I've lost much more of you guys, I'm quite ashamed of saying it.
But there must be something we can do.
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Old 06-20-10, 07:01 AM   #17
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Can I conviction them?
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Old 06-20-10, 07:06 AM   #18
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6 matches X - 80 000 € are 480 000 so far and the amouth is increased
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Old 06-20-10, 07:07 AM   #19
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What do you mean with conviction?
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Old 06-20-10, 07:14 AM   #20
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justice
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Old 06-20-10, 07:15 AM   #21
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Send email at Moneybookers to lock account v.zaslavski@bestake.com , all money are here.
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Old 06-20-10, 07:17 AM   #22
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We could do something all together...but we should talk to some kind of expert of these kind of frauds.
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Old 06-20-10, 07:17 AM   #23
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regulatory authority will not know to whom to turn?
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Old 06-20-10, 07:21 AM   #24
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probably, but, for example, I'm in Italy, and they seem to exist in Cosa Rica. We should refer to local authories in costa rica I think
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Old 06-20-10, 07:50 AM   #25
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Anyone speak spanish as well?... I don't.

I've found some numbers... I Give them a call... see what they say.

PR man:

Name: tom wash
Company: Bestake
Telephone: (506)-8889-2808
Email: ***@gmail.com


From this thread:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...stake-com.html


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Servicio Co-Location RACSAownerid: CR-SCRA2-LACNICresponsible: Luis Kopperaddress: Calle 1, Avenida 5, 3790, address: 54-1000 - San Jose - country: CRphone: +506 287-0087 []owner-c: LUK2tech-c: LUK2abuse-c: LUK2created: 20060628changed: 20060628inetnum-up: 200.122.160/19nic-hdl: LUK2person: Luis Koppere-mail: kopper@RACSA.CO.CRaddress: Avenida 5, Calle 1, 3790, address: 54-1000 - San Jose - country: CRphone: +506 287-0446 [446]created: 20031029changed: 20091216
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Old 06-20-10, 07:50 AM   #26
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probably, but, for example, I'm in Italy, and they seem to exist in Cosa Rica. We should refer to local authories in costa rica I think
There are no regulatory authorities in Coast Rica. SBR is the closest it gets, and it only works with books that care about their reputation.

I think you should ALL fill out the SBR complaint form as soon as you can. If the matches are yet to be played, and SBR acts quickly, maybe they can get the bets voided before the matches start. The link to the complaint form is in my signature.

Make sure you also all e-mail bestake complaining about the deception and asking for the bets to be voided. You should have this on record before the matches in question start, so that no one can say that you're only complaining because the bets lost.
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Old 06-20-10, 07:56 AM   #27
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Same matches for everyone else??
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Old 06-20-10, 08:01 AM   #28
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yes
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Old 06-20-10, 08:08 AM   #29
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Send email moneybookers to lock our account ,all money Are here
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Old 06-20-10, 08:11 AM   #30
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Same matches. We should also lock Netelelr account. But will e-wallet do that?
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Old 06-20-10, 08:17 AM   #31
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same matches
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Old 06-20-10, 08:22 AM   #32
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Wrote an email to Neteller. Do the same to Neteller and other e-wallet also:

I've been frauded by a betting site, Bestake.com. Many other player experienced that.

You can find online forum discussion here:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...ml#post5149359

Since all the money these people stole is on Neteller and other wallet accounts, is there any chanche to freeze account until authorities can verify?
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Old 06-20-10, 08:25 AM   #33
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I have send to' my personal account manager Moneybookers a email to' lock za.....@bestake.com and investigate. Now i try with neteller.
PLEASE all user, contact moneybookers.
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Old 06-20-10, 08:26 AM   #34
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In same boat as all of you. If you deposit another 1 euro in there, the heading should come up that everyone has been clicking.

Matches not until later in the week. Can SBR run with it on our behalf?
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Old 06-20-10, 08:27 AM   #35
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I wrote moneybookers also
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