[Lethree]

Is it me or is that a bit much, what's wrong with just a pic of my identification, now it has to be signed by somebody (who?)?

How long before you need to give them a blood dna sample before you can withdraw? Ridiculous book rules


All documentation exclusive of CC copies must be signed and stamped by an approved signatory.

[Hareeba!]

Seems that this complaint comes up every week

DON'T BLAME IAS (or any other Oz bookie)

They have to abide by the law of the land and regulatory requirements

Yes, it's over-the-top but at least you won't get scammed by one of them

[Lethree]

Is it definitely the law to have them signed?

I've played at other aus books and signing isn't required.

[Santo]

Its a recent(ish) law change/interpretation I believe

[sportsbetwin]

Originally Posted by Lethree

Is it definitely the law to have them signed?

I've played at other aus books and signing isn't required.

I have an account with plenty of Aussie books - not all have asked for signed docs but in recent times I have had to do this for BetFair and Luxbet.

[Hareeba!]

Santo's right .. it was I think November 2009 when the new requirement came in requiring certification of a single document rather than the previous "100 points" test

If you opened your accounts before the operative date they you are in the clear for the time being at least but all new accounts must comply as I understand it.

[DIF]

STOP play with australian sportsbooks. IAS BET sucks and so do centrebet.

[DIF]

and if they continue want customers, they should not doing this to customers.

[Santo]

It's not about wanting customers, it is the *Law*. In exchange, you get a government that doesn't allow shady operations to start who if go bankrupt lose your funds. I've been paid out of a collapsed Australian Sportsbook in past, and lost money in a collapsed offshore one - I know which I'd prefer.

[DIF]

another thing with IAS Bet and centrebet in the past, They continue give good prices you cant bet on, just to get new customers. Then when you realize the dont want any action at all, you want off course withraw your funds and bet with a better place that want action. Then you have go to the police-station for this. Lot of work for just get your money back when you not allowed to bet.

here is latest bets from a friend of mine.(centrebet) (he send me his history) SO PLEASE STOP GIVE THOOSE Australians company your funds. IT CAUSE JUST PROBLEMS

27 maj 2010 15:06 Single
O/0601952/0000039, Rejected KANSAS CITY(Ba..., BOSTON(Ma... @ 2.05 (Win) Refund: 50.00 BET REJECTED and stake refunded 27 maj 2010 15:05 Single
O/0601952/0000038, Rejected KANSAS CITY(Ba..., BOSTON(Ma... @ 1.51 (Win) Refund: 50.00 BET REJECTED and stake refunded 13 maj 2010 17:09 Single
O/0601952/0000037, Rejected WASHINGTON(Lan..., Over @ 1.95 (Win) Refund: 50.00 BET REJECTED and stake refunded

[DIF]

So Santos, they cant take a $50 bets any longer( 0 accepted). My friend is NOT ALONE. Thats the sad truth of australians new polices for sportsbetting.

[DIF]

No replies from Santos now. Schack and Matt

[Santo]

It might surprise you to know that I don't hit refresh on this forum every 2 minutes

My reply was about the documentation issue, not the limits. I'm on-record as saying governments should regulate a minimum accepted bet, as has generally been the case with on-track books. That being the case, I'm limited (in bet type and amount) but can still bet at just about every Australian book, building a good relationship goes a long way.

It's now midnight here, so if I don't respond for about 10 hours it's not that I'm ignoring you ;-)

[DIF]

ok, no problem. good night Santo.

[Hareeba!]

As Santo says, the Oz books are safe. Whereas they all used to be good, unfortunately of late they have been adopting the crap European style of managing players rather their book. In fact IAS and Sportsbet have now been taken over by Paddy Power! Result = low limits, rejected bets etc. etc.
AFAIC Centrebet and Sportinbet are a complete waste of time
IAS and Luxbet will still let you on for reasonable amounts in racing
And if you're into AFL and NRL you can still get set for very good money with most of them.
Tabcorp's vig is high but when you can find a price there they will take big bets on both sports and races
Others worthwhile having an account at are SportsAlive, Betchoice and Betstar

It's worth putting up with a little inconvenience in ID confirmation to be able to play legally at sound, regulated and safe books who won't steal from you and will pay out promptly.

[Lethree]

What does signed documents have to be with being safe?

Are signed documents any "safer" than normal uploaded documents?

[Hareeba!]

Originally Posted by Lethree

What does signed documents have to be with being safe?

Are signed documents any "safer" than normal uploaded documents?

I tend to agree but that's the law - most of them have NFI what they're doing

The point about safely is that Oz books are highly regulated.
They are required to lodge significant security deposits with the regulators to cover losses to punters
They are required to maintain sufficient cash balances at all times to pay punters promptly
They are subject to constant monitoring by and reporting to the regulators

How many of the books you play at have those safeguards in place?

[chrikar]

They want certified documents in everything!I sent them my id which is signed and they say it's not clear, they want a copy of my id, my driving licence and a phone bill ALL signed by police(!!) or other authority! And they want to have a phone number from whoever certified it in case they want to contact. So a police officer in Greece where i am..will have to put his phone on-bcs someone from Australia may call him to verify. Crazy crazy!

[Lethree]

Originally Posted by chrikar

They want certified documents in everything!I sent them my id which is signed and they say it's not clear, they want a copy of my id, my driving licence and a phone bill ALL signed by police(!!) or other authority! And they want to have a phone number from whoever certified it in case they want to contact. So a police officer in Greece where i am..will have to put his phone on-bcs someone from Australia may call him to verify. Crazy crazy!

Absolute madness, our police are going to be bothered by some over the top prissy bookmaker in the convict state, instead of doing their work.

It would be funny if it weren't true.

[Hareeba!]

Originally Posted by Lethree

Absolute madness, our police are going to be bothered by some over the top prissy bookmaker in the convict state, instead of doing their work.

It would be funny if it weren't true.

agree it's a load of crap but it is worth the effort
hopefully one day they will see how absurd this all is and revert to the previous system
BUT it doesn't have to be a police officer. I presume they provided you with the full list of acceptable witness occupations?
like teacher, accountant, lawyer etc?
most people have a personal friend who can do this for them

[Lethree]

No list given, but found out the local post office in the uk will do it for about £7/$10

[citlec]

I know someone who had to get his Solicitor to write a letter saying that he is who he says he is.

[elzidane]

Here a message of Iasbet which I have just received after having sent my driving licence.

Dear *******,
Thank you for providing us with the requested documents.
Unfortunately your documents cannot be accepted as they are uncertified.
A Certified Documents is a copy of an original document that has been stamped and verified by an approved signatory as a true copy.
In order to have a copy certified you just need to bring the copy and the original to an approved signatory and they will stamp and sign them as a true copy.
There are a number of approved signatories that you can use but the most convenient signatories are a Police officer or a post office. A court clerk, a justice of the peace, a solicitor, a medical professional or a pharmacist can also certify a copy for you.
Please also note that you must make up at least 100 points of ID to verify your account.
To see which documents we accept and for there point value please click here.
Should you require any further assistance, please feel free to contact us.
Kind regards,


In any case the topic certified a document is more than clearly here.

[kostasgr]

Originally Posted by Lethree

Is it me or is that a bit much, what's wrong with just a pic of my identification, now it has to be signed by somebody (who?)?

How long before you need to give them a blood dna sample before you can withdraw? Ridiculous book rules


All documentation exclusive of CC copies must be signed and stamped by an approved signatory.

I WONDER HOW SBR RATE THIS SHIT BOOK A OR B I DONT REMEMBER!!!

[kostasgr]

Originally Posted by Hareeba!

agree it's a load of crap but it is worth the effort
hopefully one day they will see how absurd this all is and revert to the previous system
BUT it doesn't have to be a police officer. I presume they provided you with the full list of acceptable witness occupations?
like teacher, accountant, lawyer etc?
most people have a personal friend who can do this for them

Hareeba you must earned some money at near past over there,i cannot give any different explanation.This book is just shit,nothing else.

[kostasgr]

Originally Posted by hareeba!

seems that this complaint comes up every week

don't blame ias (or any other oz bookie)

they have to abide by the law of the land and regulatory requirements

yes, it's over-the-top but at least you won't get scammed by one of them

centrebet never ask me any document.all the time you are the laywer of iasbet.

[Hareeba!]

Originally Posted by kostasgr

I WONDER HOW SBR RATE THIS SHIT BOOK A OR B I DONT REMEMBER!!!

Yet another BS ignorant post about this matter!

AUSTRALIAN BOOKS ARE REGULATED AND MUST COMPLY WITH THE LAW

Those who wish to play in the safest environment in the world need to comply with the strict requirements imposed

Is that really so difficult to comprehend?

[Hareeba!]

Originally Posted by kostasgr

centrebet never ask me any document.all the time you are the laywer of iasbet.

when did you open your account with Centrebet?

the law was changed, I think it was late last year, to require CERTIFIED documents for new accounts

prior to that you need to just supply "100 points" of ID documents

[kostasgr]

Originally Posted by hareeba!;6470***

yet another bs ignorant post about this matter!

australian books are regulated and must comply with the law

those who wish to play in the safest environment in the world need to comply with the strict requirements imposed

is that really so difficult to comprehend?

i repeat.centrebet never ask me any document.

[kostasgr]

Originally Posted by hareeba!

when did you open your account with centrebet?

The law was changed, i think it was late last year, to require certified documents for new accounts

prior to that you need to just supply "100 points" of id documents

same time with iasbet

[Hareeba!]

Originally Posted by kostasgr

i repeat.centrebet never ask me any document.

I repeat, if your account was opened before certification was introduced then you would only have needed to supply 100 pts of ID documents

If they didn't ask for that they have broken the law. Bur frankly I suspect you've simply forgotten what you had to provide when you opened your account.

Have you made any withdrawals from Centrebet yet?

[Hareeba!]

Originally Posted by kostasgr

same time with iasbet

when was that?

[kostasgr]

Originally Posted by Hareeba!

I repeat, if your account was opened before certification was introduced then you would only have needed to supply 100 pts of ID documents

If they didn't ask for that they have broken the law. ?

.VERY FUNNY.LOOK I SUSPECT WHY CNTREBET DON T ASK DOCUMENTS.I AM FROM EUROPE.WHEN I OPEN CENTREBET IT LOOKS THAT THE BASE IS AT UK.MOZILLA CAN SHOW WHERE IS THE BASE OF ANY SITE.IT SHOWS A FLAG.BUN I DON T MIND HOW CENTREBET DO IT.I CARE ABOUT MY MONEY THAT IASBET DENY TO GIVE ME.

[Hareeba!]

Originally Posted by kostasgr

.VERY FUNNY.LOOK I SUSPECT WHY CNTREBET DON T ASK DOCUMENTS.I AM FROM EUROPE.WHEN I OPEN CENTREBET IT LOOKS THAT THE BASE IS AT UK.MOZILLA CAN SHOW WHERE IS THE BASE OF ANY SITE.IT SHOWS A FLAG.BUN I DON T MIND HOW CENTREBET DO IT.I CARE ABOUT MY MONEY THAT IASBET DENY TO GIVE ME.

yet more BS ignorance

it doesn't matter where you are from, the law applies

when did you open your Centrebet account and have you withdrawn anything yet?

[kostasgr]

Originally Posted by hareeba!

yet more bs ignorance

it doesn't matter where you are from, the law applies

when did you open your centrebet account and have you withdrawn anything yet?

last week but you cannot believe anyone what drama feels with this company.centrebet is the best book at australia.someone told me that bodog is different at usa and different at europe.i think the same happens with centrebet.every week i make a pay out from centrebet,one year now,without asking any documents.and the more important.luxbet before to deposit asked me the same documents.iasbet why not?cause they want a wild f....ng,i could say.