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11-12-2007, 02:43 PM
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Sportsbook.com confiscates $10,000, cites free-play bonus abuse
Sportsbook.com (SBR rating D-) confiscates $10,000, cites free-play bonus abuse.
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Hello…..I need help with a sportsbook complaint. I had around $10,000 at 6 different sportsbooks within the sportsbook.com group. They said they froze my accounts for “free bet” abuse and seized all funds…..I only made $200 - $300 off of freebets over the last two years….and they took $10,000. I can see if they wanted to take the $200-$300, but 10K? Is there anything that can be done?
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Sportsbook.com is claiming the use of bonuses at multiple Sportsbook.com-managed books is "bonus fraud" and reason to confiscate winnings. A second player has submitted a claim to SBR for $50,000 . The player was told $50,000 would not be paid because he circumvented limits on some of his wagers by using affiliated sportsbooks to place the same bets. The same player was also debited over $30,000 when Sportsbook.com scammed multiple users, stealing parlay winnings.
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I have always used my own name, address, email, credit cards, etc. It was
plain who I was at all times. I don't see how I should be expected to keep track of which books are allowed and which aren't, especially if that information isn't expressed anywhere.
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Sportsbook.com and sister Jazette books do not have rules against using multiple brands and utilizing their promotions. It is often encouraged through the sportsbook sales departments which market each website as an independent sportsbook. Sportsbook.com states that it will adress these reports in detail.
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11-12-2007, 02:45 PM
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Um, yikes?!
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11-12-2007, 03:21 PM
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Well DUUUUHHHH.. I asked this very question just a couple of weeks ago... I even knew at that point that having sister accounts to exceed limits NOT TO MENTION abusing bonuses was, at the very least, frowned upon if not in the T & A...
I was going to use Linesmaker and Sportsbook to circumvent props limits since they are not that high but I knew they were sister sites and would not like it so I didn't do it... What if I didn't know they were sister books and tried to do it thinking I was slick..?
Why do you think I asked for a list of alllllll the Jazzette's books a couple of weeks ago..?
Some people need common sense in this world...
BTW BigBDan why haven't you made a thread like this for the BOL dispute..? I know it's common to make a thread like this but I haven't seen one for BOL yet..? Just wondering why....

Last edited by ShamsWoof10 : 11-12-2007 at 03:23 PM.
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11-12-2007, 03:28 PM
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Always convenient when you can turn an alleged $200 bonus scam into a 10K windfall. When are we going to see an ad campaign that attends the general public to what sportsbook.com really is? And please include names, personal info, and pictures of these corrupt owners.
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11-12-2007, 03:47 PM
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This is worse than the same-game parlay ripoff by SB recently. They are looking for any excuse to steal. What idiot would support them in this blatant larceny?
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11-12-2007, 03:49 PM
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Yes, this is grand larceny. Their same-game parlay theft was as well. This outift is run by a bunch of criminal thugs.
Last edited by louis : 11-12-2007 at 03:55 PM.
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11-12-2007, 04:12 PM
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I am not defending sportsbook as much as I am arguing how you guys react inconsistantly...
You are spending days trying to figure out if it's even possible for someone to use 44 computers to beat BOL and bet sizes yada yada yada...
In this case where the possibility of bonus abuse is clear your attitude is INSTANTLY and no matter what... sportsbook is wrong...
I called this exact situation TWO WEEKS AGO and asked the same question... Is this rocket science to you both ? Unless your IQ is ZERO, you have ZERO experience in online gambling, or your morality is ZERO this was an easy one to call...
Like I said I sure hope you guys don't do jury duty...

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11-12-2007, 04:24 PM
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Thwy used to allow multiple accounts and encourage them over their affiliated sites, Even to the point of cross marketing them. They probably still do.
They are creating ways to cheat players, new ways, creative ways. Its almost comical. What will be the next sportsbook.com scam? We should run a contest.
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11-12-2007, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ShamsWoof10
I am not defending sportsbook as much as I am arguing how you guys react inconsistantly...
You are spending days trying to figure out if it's even possible for someone to use 44 computers to beat BOL and bet sizes yada yada yada...
In this case where the possibility of bonus abuse is clear your attitude is INSTANTLY and no matter what... sportsbook is wrong...
I called this exact situation TWO WEEKS AGO and asked the same question... Is this rocket science to you both ? Unless your IQ is ZERO, you have ZERO experience in online gambling, or your morality is ZERO this was an easy one to call...
Like I said I sure hope you guys don't do jury duty...

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If the case involves SB.com, I think you will need to be excused too. Seriously, what does BOL have to do with this? For sake of argument, if BOL is shown to steal then it's okay for SB to steal? You and I have been down this path before, but I really don't get your logic?
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11-12-2007, 04:32 PM
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I'm not going to wait for someone to proove beyond a reasonable doubt that sportsbook.com is bad. I'm going to rule them bad and move on.
Besides, the jury has already ruled in this case. The ruling according to the jury, SBR, is that the rules do not prohibit multiple bonus across sportsbooks, so confiscating player balances is wrong.
If you want to keep me off the jury because I rely on other juries, that's fine with me.
Last edited by louis : 11-12-2007 at 04:43 PM.
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11-12-2007, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SBR_John
Thwy used to allow multiple accounts and encourage them over their affiliated sites, Even to the point of cross marketing them. They probably still do.
They are creating ways to cheat players, new ways, creative ways. Its almost comical. What will be the next sportsbook.com scam? We should run a contest.
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Put me down for abuse of the free juice Saturday college football game. I could always catch them before a line change and have no juice on a favorable line for a dime or two. Time to steal from these people next.
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11-12-2007, 05:38 PM
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I don't see what all the fuse is about. Sportsbook.com is trying to cut costs because of a business down swing like any other business. First cost to be cut....PAYING PLAYERS!!!!
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11-12-2007, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SBR_John
Thwy used to allow multiple accounts and encourage them over their affiliated sites, Even to the point of cross marketing them. They probably still do.
They are creating ways to cheat players, new ways, creative ways. Its almost comical. What will be the next sportsbook.com scam? We should run a contest.
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I still get emails weekly from hollywood and sportsbook.com telling me they put money in my account and to come play. I've tried being removed from their lists multiple times, it never stops. I haven't played at either book in years.
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11-12-2007, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SBR_John
Thwy used to allow multiple accounts and encourage them over their affiliated sites, Even to the point of cross marketing them. They probably still do.
They are creating ways to cheat players, new ways, creative ways. Its almost comical. What will be the next sportsbook.com scam? We should run a contest.
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Oh come on John stop bullsh*tting... You know it's fine to have accounts at Linesmaker, Sportsbook and all the others.. I have four and they know about them all... It is not wrong to have them but IT IS WRONG TO let's say use one to bet one side of a no juice game and then the other to bet the other side to bonus whore or abuse free bets... It would not surprise me if HHog was/is doing exactly that...
My point to Louis HHog and others is simple... Don't act stupid... You know damn well this type of abuse can be done and with their reload bonus (for some) a lot can be made... HAS ANYONE even assumed if this can be going on in this case..? If this were BOL or another book that is the FIRST thing you would have assumed...
Don't scew this HHog.. You know it's not about sportsbook or BOL but about how inconsistant the reaction is between the two... It's clear as day!!!
Like I said though I know SBR has to eat too... Everytime something like this comes out I wonder how many people take all the money out of that book and click on those banners above and join those books..then lose money betting...

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11-12-2007, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ShamsWoof10
The SBR daily regular has heard about the issues with the CC's at Bookmaker... I guess one of the options is to deposit at a sister site and transfer it over for a $25 fee... Ok no problem but let's say I deposited 10K in a sister site and moved SOME of it over..
I have two questions...
A.. Is it frowned upon to have an "active" account at every sister site..?
B.. If not then is it frowned upon to add to your bet past the limit using the sister site..? I would think this is like having multiple accounts...
comments..?

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Anyone remember this post...?

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11-12-2007, 06:07 PM
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Shams:
I also think that SB will check into correlated if bets, in fact I'll be emailing such a suggestion to them. PM me your account # there if you're innocent, you hypocrite. Time to start drawing down.
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