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11-06-2007, 06:36 PM
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Sports betting in Las Vegas vs. A bookie or offshore
Which is better and whats the con's of betting at A las vegas sports book?
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11-06-2007, 07:00 PM
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Offshore you can make a bet anytime from your comp. possibly better lines but longer payouts.. Bookie / Vegas sportsbook thats cash right away. Any other major differences?
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11-06-2007, 07:24 PM
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Easier to lineshop online.
Slower moving lines in Vegas.
Easier to make large bets online, especially totals and smaller markets.
You won't get stiffed by the book in Vegas.
If you're the paranoid sort, there is some paperwork kept on your wagers in Vegas if you're betting enough to trigger them.
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11-06-2007, 07:34 PM
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If you bet big in A sportsbook in las vegas and they see your sharp do they really limit your betting?
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11-06-2007, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcaces
Which is better and whats the con's of betting at A las vegas sports book?
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That is a excellent THREAD JR,I am always interested in questions having to do with Vegas books.I hope to be able to bet there regularly one day(if i don't happen to just be residing there full time).I hope the players who live there will give us some valuable info.IMO i think if you can manage to have both you're in business.I heard Kenny White,Fezzik and A.Boston say that :Station,coast hilton,ceasers and mirrage will take bets between 5 to 10k without looking twice(& 25k if you speak to mgmt. according to Axel Freed)combine that with Matchbook,wsex,pinny,bookmaker and maybe Canbet & your looking good!! .gif)
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11-06-2007, 08:30 PM
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We need jj!
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11-06-2007, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcaces
If you bet big in A sportsbook in las vegas and they see your sharp do they really limit your betting?
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Yes, but it has very little to do with being sharp and more to do with the fact that there are no bookies in Vegas - at least not in the true sense of the word.
Forrest Gump could walk into a book and try to lay down a few dimes on an NBA game and after a few yells of "KEY!" and the manager getting the guy's photo & biography they might let him get down for a nickel.
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11-06-2007, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DrunkenLullaby
Yes, but it has very little to do with being sharp and more to do with the fact that there are no bookies in Vegas - at least not in the true sense of the word.
Forrest Gump could walk into a book and try to lay down a few dimes on an NBA game and after a few yells of "KEY!" and the manager getting the guy's photo & biography they might let him get down for a nickel.
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Ya but what would the bio have to say for them to limit someones betting??
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11-06-2007, 10:11 PM
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Anyone else play at A las vegas book? JJ where are you????
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11-06-2007, 10:20 PM
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There are no real professionals in vegas.
You cant bet enough, the logistics are daunting, and the juice is too high.
Anyone in vegas who you know about is there for one reason - publicity. Anybody who bets real money and bets to make money - bets offshore.
Period.
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11-06-2007, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by vanzack
There are no real professionals in vegas.
You cant bet enough, the logistics are daunting, and the juice is too high.
Anyone in vegas who you know about is there for one reason - publicity. Anybody who bets real money and bets to make money - bets offshore.
Period.
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Bullshit
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11-06-2007, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pokernut9999
Bullshit
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Explain how it is bullshit.
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11-06-2007, 10:39 PM
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There are many pros in Vegas period.
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11-06-2007, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pokernut9999
There are many pros in Vegas period.
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Thats quite an explanation.
The truth is that you cant get a bet down for any kind of real money. The truth is also that anyone who is serious about making money is not paying -110, and running around town (or paying someone to run around town) looking for the best number.
There are no pros betting in vegas.
Why would anyone choose to bet in vegas? Can you name one advantage for a pro? The only advantages are for the tourists - they can walk up to a window and bet their 100 bucks with ease. No pro needs this. No pro lays -110 unless a number is good. And no pro can walk up to vegas and hit them for 20K on a line.
Pros are pros because they get the best number and are value conscious, and can bet big money. Who would choose vegas over Pinnacle, BetCris, WSEX, and Matchbook? Im serious, can you name one advantage? Pros make money by ONLY getting the best number and juice, and you are at a logistic disadvantage looking for that in vegas - and then walk up to the window and have a manager cut your nuts off by limiting you to 2k per side.
Vegas is a myth. Its the past. Nobody bets sports in vegas anymore.
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11-06-2007, 10:58 PM
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Can you place bets into a Vegas sports book over the phone? Or do you have to go there physically in person and give them cash?
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11-06-2007, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by vanzack
Why would anyone choose to bet in vegas? Can you name one advantage for a pro?
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I shop the both offshore and Vegas for MLB moneylines. About half the time a Vegas book will have a better price than any of my offshore outs, often by a significant margin.
However, If I had to choose one or the other, I would choose offshore.
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11-06-2007, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MrX
I shop the both offshore and Vegas for MLB moneylines. About half the time a Vegas book will have a better price than any of my offshore outs, often by a significant margin.
However, If I had to choose one or the other, I would choose offshore.
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I dont know if you are a pro or not - and Im not going to ask you how much you bet - but when you get these good numbers in vegas you cant bet 20-50K on it. Most places limit a walk up bettor to about 3k per side in NCAAF, and that is a hassle.
I would also be surprised if Vegas has a better number at -110 than a combination of Pinnacle, MB, Cris, and WSEX half the time. I have a very difficult time believing this. 1 cent spreads at MB and 8 cent lines at pinny have to counteract the half point you might be able to get.
PS EDIT - didnt see MLB lines in your post. Are you telling me that a vegas dime line (being generous) has better prices than a 1 cent spread at MB where you can get 50K down routinely on a norma | |