Betroyal slow pay

west22 · 08-22-2005, 05:12 PM

I am a long time high dollar handicapper and I am having a nightmare experience with betroyal.com better known as Royal sports. I am up about 40k and I have been trying to get paid for weeks now. Every neteller withdraw I have asked for is delayed and takes several phone calls to get it through. I also requested a 10,000 check payment but I am at 2 weeks and doubtful it will be any time soon. I want to get my money out of there so fast but they limit you up to $5000 per week with Neteller and currently I hold a balance of 61k in my account. I am worried about taking a year to get my money out and dont want to bet anymore , afraid I will actually win and have to collect more. Anyone with any insight would be valuable. I am becoming a squeeky wheel and hopefully will get som grease. Let me know

Thanks

why · 08-22-2005, 05:17 PM

I have never had this much loot anywhere, I wish you the best and I am sure it is nerve racking.

jjgold · 08-22-2005, 05:27 PM

I a sure you will get paid. I believe Royal has never not paid anyone.

Be patient and do not bet there until you get all your cash

Senator7 · 08-22-2005, 05:30 PM

Anybody else here wish they had $61K in their sportsbook account?

All kidding aside, I'm sure you'll get paid. I haven't heard many bad things about Royal.

Senator 7

Bill Dozer · 08-22-2005, 05:43 PM

Hello West,

Please email assistance@sportsbookreview.com with your account ID, full name, the dates you made these requests and by what method. We will contact management on your behalf.

SBR_John · 08-22-2005, 05:51 PM

West I believe we just upgraded this book to a D about a week ago. If this turns out to be legit this will be the first slow pay in about 2 months. You just can't risk getting stiffed for this much coin.

One trick you or anyone else might try at slow pay books is to ask them is there any way to get my money? Western Union? Neteller? Check? All books have cash somewhere unless they are closing in the next 24 hrs. Dont worry about the fees just get what you can.

Mudcat · 08-22-2005, 06:10 PM

FWIW, I have made 7 Neteller payout requests of $2500 from Royal in the last 3 months. I received them all and only 1 was slow (by a couple of days).

Unfortunately they do have that $2500/day, $5000/wk max rule. That would mean 12 weeks to get the full amount for you. I'd hope some special arrangements could be made in a case like yours to expedite that.

My only question is how you managed to win so much cash. They cut my MLB limits down to the point where it was pointless for me to even look at the book any more.

bboots · 08-22-2005, 10:10 PM

your situation sounded alot like mine. It took 3 weeks to get a check after several lame excuses. Also, I have requested about 6 or 7 neteller withdrawals NONE of which have arrived when promised and required further calls. In short, they ALWAYS slow paid me BUT they did eventually pay. I have come to learn not to leave 5 figures in there before I start the collection process which takes weeks. I have heard they have a quota on how much they are allowed to give out each month and as the end of the month rolls around you are very likely to get delayed....Its too bad because it not only hurts their reputation...but I wont play again until fully paid...this costs them a lot of action....Persevere...its going to be a hassle but I think youll get paid.....eventually

Clip Joint · 08-22-2005, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bboots

but I wont play again until fully paid...

This is the key! DO NOT PLAY THERE UNTIL YOU ARE PAID!

The owner is an old casino owner that stiffed his entire clientelle and closed the doors. He has the old "casino mentality" where he figures if he slow pays you long enough, you will eventually play again and lose.

DO NOT PLAY AGAIN WITH THEM UNTIL YOU ARE PAID IN FULL...and even then, I would never play again with them. There are far too many quality outs to deal with Tej and this slow paying

book.

TheGuesser · 08-22-2005, 10:26 PM

Don't bet any of the money. They are slow paying you in the hopes that you'll get desperate and bet it all and lose, like that lying guy with the lie detector did(check RX search feature). Don't give them the chance to screw you.

pags11 · 08-23-2005, 01:46 AM

have to agree with everyone else here...that's what Garet at wagerfree hopes as well...

Truthteller · 08-23-2005, 08:20 AM

That moron over at MW told me yesterday that Royal doesn't slow pay. Somebody better remind him of the David issue and show him this thread.

TOW · 08-23-2005, 08:26 AM

The David1 case (the player who lied about his last two wagers) is a remarkable example of how Royal operates.

The player posted up 60 dimes and managed to build his balance to close to 200 dimes. He then asked for his money out and got the runaround for three weeks.

He was then finally put in touch with King who basically told him that Royal would have taken "some time" (likely between April and SuperBowl) to pay him, since he had decided not to wager anymore.

He was then told he would have been paid 10K a week if he had kept on wagering.

The player did wrong in accepting the proposal and even more in lying about his last two wagers.

That said King approached the player some ten days ago offering him a 5K bonus to come back

David1 finally did something right and told King to shove his "bonus" up his .....

SBR_John · 08-23-2005, 09:33 AM

Let's wait and see what the facts are.

I'm not defending Royal but their rules are there and players, especially big players, should read them..

Russ(majorwager owner) and Tej(Royal owner) are partners in all kinds of projects so don't expect him to acknowledge a Royal slow pay. I could be wrong but I dont think he ever has, even when Royal was admitting slow pays russ pretended not to be aware of any. After about the 112th verified slow pay his tune changed that; Well OK, Yes they slow pay but what the hell, at least they pretty much pay eventually.

Back to the rules. Royal is run like a casino because that is one area that Tej and Russ & Company have made some good money. They wrote the rules to limit how much a player could withdraw for a reason, so a player would lose it back. So far they have proven that this works.

Read the rules and follow them. If you dont like them then dont join. If you do join then dont complain if the book follows the rules.

Truthteller · 08-23-2005, 11:29 AM

I agree John if their rules state they only pay a certain amount per week then the player should not come running here complaining.

However, the David case was as clear cut as one can get. They slow paid the guy in the first place which led to the eventual mess. However, Russ only focused on the guy lying not the slow pay.

If he is indeed partners with Tej as you say then he should be in jail not running a so called "watchdog" site.

SBR_John · 08-23-2005, 11:58 AM

TT of course he was slow paid, Royal admitted that. russ thinks he's coy at changing the subject when one his partners gets caught cheating. His posters dont challenge him because they dont want their personal info used. tej will run a background on them and give the info to clev. But they are not fooling very many...they think they are and thats the funny part. They have soo many receiving tej/russ's dollars that sometimes it seems loud but its not. Players know the Scores.

Truthteller · 08-23-2005, 12:29 PM

Russ flat out told me yesterday that Royal doesn't slow pay. He is also living in a web of deceit if what you are saying is true about him being partners with Tej. He said yesterday he believes Tej doesn't control the money. Why would he make Tej out to be a bad guy but is in bed with him?