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+6.5 on the loser of the Super Bowl!
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Example, Saints lose 24-30 its a win or Colts lose 20-24 its a win.
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Last edited by Docta Ignoranti; 02-05-10 at 01:12 PM.
I just logged into your site as a guest to see the juice on this prop. The way it was worded was really confusing. Are you offering the losing team plus 6.5 twice at -110. If so that is robbery. I would like to wager on the winning team by more than 6.5 laying -110 since the same prop at 5Dimes is -200 comeback +70.
Winning margin u6.5 -110 is ****ing horrible. So we have a shill posting that his site offers a one-sided bet with as much juice as a 6-team parlay? Sign me up?!?!
"The Loser of the Super Bowl plus 6.5"...we are giving you +6.5 on the loser whoever it may be. I appreciate the 5Dimes plug (it's an awesome book), but this is one of our promotional lines. Example, if the Colts lose 44-40 (4 points) you would win this bet. If the Saints lost 24-16 (8 points) the bet would be a lost. Obviously, you must have an opposing bet (hence Tom's complaint, Winning margin u6.5 -110 is ****ing horrible; obviously no one should or would ever bet that).Originally Posted by Son of Sam
We also have Live In-Game wagering on the Super Bowl. I hope that cleared some things up Tom and Sam. Any more questions or complaints please fire away!
Docta, the bet you are offering "the loser of the SuperBowl plus 6.5" is the same as winning margin under 6 1/2.
It is a HORRIBLE bet with massive negative expectation.
Is your book offering the opposite side of this wager "the winner of the SuperBowl minus 6.5"? I highly doubt it.
If so what is the juice? I'm going to say I would need a little better juice to be putting money on that bet
So you aren´t offering the option to bet the winning team - 6.5 pts laying 110? If not then this is really bad for the bettors. Best of luck with getting the sheeple to take the loser +6.5 -110."The Loser of the Super Bowl plus 6.5"...we are giving you +6.5 on the loser whoever it may be. I appreciate the 5Dimes plug (it's an awesome book), but this is one of our promotional lines. Example, if the Colts lose 44-40 (4 points) you would win this bet. If the Saints lost 24-16 (8 points) the bet would be a lost. Obviously, you must have an opposing bet (hence Tom's complaint, Winning margin u6.5 -110 is ****ing horrible; obviously no one should or would ever bet that).
We also have Live In-Game wagering on the Super Bowl. I hope that cleared some things up Tom and Sam. Any more questions or complaints please fire away!
This is a margin of victory bet. Margin of victory under 6.5. A fair line on this bet is approximately +200. If you wanted a decent hold percentage, you would offer your bettors +180.www.lines2bet.com is offering +6.5 on the loser of this years Super Bowl.
Example, Saints lose 24-30 its a win or Colts lose 20-24 its a win.
That's a beautiful line guys!
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Docta Ignoranti-What a name. I couldn't have put it any better.
This offer is equivalent to a scam. I'm not saying this is a scam book, but it is a scam bet. Either it really is a scam book, or they assume people are so stupid they can be tricked into depositing (which would make them a scam book IMO)with such a horrible offer, or the book is so incompetent, they don't even realize what a stupid offer this really is.
For anyone who deposits there, the only thing you hate worse than your own money is yourself.
Last edited by Climate; 02-05-10 at 11:19 PM.
huh?www.lines2bet.com is offering +6.5 on the loser of this years Super Bowl.
Example, Saints lose 24-30 its a win or Colts lose 20-24 its a win.
That's a beautiful line guys!
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Next Day Payouts
Cover fees on any deposit over $200
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They do offer the coin toss at +102 on both sides. While in the GUEST acct I tried to bet it for a nickel and they have it limited to $150. So they are giving away $3 bucks at least.I guess it is a loss leader in hopes of getting deposits in.
Best of luck Docta.
Guys, I understand what your saying on all fronts. I feel that the juice is fair at -110 and this is actually a margin of lose bet... We are giving you +6.5 on the loser...that's it. You can bet 5Dimes and take +6.5 -200 on the winner if you like. You can bet the regular line or bet during the game with us its your money and you have free will to choose any book that caters to your needs.
To be fair, we were trying to offer something different and obviously you guys don't like the bet. I am very disappointed however, hearing you say our sportsbook is a scam book. We pay same day and have never had a single payout issue. Please contact the individuals who run SBR and you will never here a single complaint on this book.
We have been booking for a long time, and tried to offer something a little different then the old winner line with huge juice. As far as a better hold percentage are you sure you understand what that means. You're offering that line +180 not -110. Also, you might want to look up Docta Ignoranti (1sr Socratic Paradox: Questions of Docta Ignorania) before you blast me for my name as well. Book making is something you do for life, love, and take pride in. All negativity a side, this is not that bad of a line. You're betting on the LOSER falling somewhere around 6.5 points.
Example, Take the last 5 Super Bowls as a trend.
Super Bowl XLIII 27-23 winner
Super Bowl XLII 17-14 winner
Super Bowl XLI 29-17 loser
Super Bowl XL 21-10 loser
Super Bowl XXXIX 24-21 winner
So +6.5 on the loser of this years Super Bowl at -110 might not be for everyone, but we have lots of other lines on the game and Live In-game wagering as well. Payout are same day or the following day. We were the first to offer +102 on the coin toss which might also make us look like idiots, but has since been copied by other books.
We have excellent bonus offers and top customer service. If you have more questions or want to bash the manager for putting out a line you find in disgust please contact Lex at 866-352-8192. He also comes from the betting side of the biz and might even agree with you. In any case I wish everyone luck and thank you for the critical post which taken in the right way will make us stronger. Socrates said it best, "we were born dumb and we die dumb" lets see if we can find something you guys might like in between that time.
Good luck today!
Last edited by Docta Ignoranti; 02-06-10 at 10:44 AM.
Sam thanks my man, you're very observant...lol. Obviously, that line is nothing more then a fun marketing line for our players to enjoy with its limitations. Sam where do you bet now if you don't mind me asking?They do offer the coin toss at +102 on both sides. While in the GUEST acct I tried to bet it for a nickel and they have it limited to $150. So they are giving away $3 bucks at least.
Best of luck Docta.
I think the problem most people have with your line is that you came on here touting it but only offered the one side at ridiculous juice. You can't tout a line at your book unless it offeres value or is at least fair.
I currently play at Pinny, Mbook, and the Vegas books, with Pinny being my favorite since they offer most props in Yes/No format. Then you know you are getting a true line since they are willing to take bets on either side.
Andy, please explain the negative expectations of this bet. Also, the bet is obviously not the same margin. If the Colts win by 20 the bet is a loser. The bet is not offered on the other side -6.5 winner, but if you want that line I'm sure you can have it if you contact the line manager. No one is out to screw any player it was a line that was put up and has since created some negative feedback. Unlike other individuals I won't hide from you and feel your comments are valid and deserve an explanation. I hope this helps, but if you need further evidence please contact them directly and ask for the GM Lex.
Sam, I see your logic, and this is the first time I have ever seen a one sided line in my life which I though was interesting. Pinny is excellent and to be fair all our lines are true lines not unlike Pinny's, but this one is in fact odd. I felt it was an interesting stance on the loser and players on SBR might be interesting in betting it. I certainly was not out to create a huge stir. I appreciate the feedback and hope to see you bet with us someday in the future.
You are a real piece of shit. Anybody can go to 5dimes and get +170 on the bet you're offering instead of -110. Why haven't you beaten that line into shape if -110 is fair? Because 5dimes has the market right, and you're a lying piece of shit? Yup, that would explain it.
Wow Tom , explain to my how I lied and why would you call me a piece of shit, you don't even know me. Thanks for the "winning margin over and under 6.5 which is not the same bet. The 5Dimes bet is simple, your backing the winner over 6.5 or under 6.5. Where do you see backing the loser...feel free to blast away Tom if it makes you feel better about yourself.
Last edited by Docta Ignoranti; 02-06-10 at 11:43 AM.
The 5dimes bet is exactly the same bet as you but they offer both sides. If you take winning team under 6.5 then what do you have??? You basically are saying that the team that wins the Superbowl will win by less than 6.5 points. So then you will have the losing team staying within 6.5 points. The difference is that with 5dimes you will get +170 where you are offering -110.
I hope this helps.
Saying that these aren't the same bet- if the winning margin is under 6.5, loser +6.5 covers. If the winning margin is over 6.5, loser +6.5 doesn't cover. They're the exact same bet. Betting the winning margin under 6.5 at 5dimes is identical to backing the loser +6.5. Exactly. The. Same. Bet. You. Lying. Sack. Of. Shill. Shit.
And it's not like multiple people haven't pointed that out to you in this thread before my last post. You're offering a 1-sided sucker bet and you damn well know it.
1105 Winning Margin o 6 1/2 -235
1106 Winning Margin u 6 1/2 +180
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So what happened to Loser +6.5 -110?
Under 6.5 pointspread is a losing proposition big time. To the docta here...you are insulting the intelligence of gamblers. Really. And you have the gall in citing 3 out of 5 "winners" over the past 5 Super Bowls? Compare and contrast that with the previous 45 Super Bowls. You will see that probably 70% of the games are decided by 7 points or more.
I'm not gonna call you names like another poster did, but like ESPN/Tom Jackson put it. "Come on, man!!"
Just looked up the super bowl scores. 32 losers and 11 winners in playing this prop. I think laying minus 230 on 7 or plus points is a pretty sound play.
Wrong.
Sound play?
No offense, but what does Green Bay versus Kansas City in 1965 have to do with tomorrow's game?
Call me crazy, but I probably wouldn't recommend using data from games played 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, & 45 years ago to handicap tomorrow's game?
Last edited by Climate; 02-06-10 at 02:00 PM.
LOL, Fair enough Fiddler, my bad, seriously should have never opened up my big "sack of shill shit" mouth. Won't happen again I can tell you that!
I would have to disagree with you in regards to capping the Super Bowl. I would much rather take the last 5 or even 8 games then all 45 Super Bowls. The game has changed a lot and the trends reflect that. If you take the average of those 45 games like you said, you would be right. At the same time now it seems +6.5 on the loser is a nice bet, but we killed it for my boy Tom (joke he hates me). Were not out to screw anyone that's for sure.
Good luck on the game!
I have to agree with Climate here, this is sound advice.Wrong.
Sound play?
No offense, but what does Green Bay versus Kansas City in 1965 have to do with tomorrow's game?
Call me crazy, but I probably wouldn't recommend using data from games played 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, & 45 years ago to handicap tomorrow's game?
6 of the last 10 Super Bowls have been decided by 7.0 or less points , games are getting closer.
However i have to agree with fiddler +6.5 @-110 on the loser of this years Super Bowl. I a sucker bet . You have to be rerally f**ked up to take a prop like that @ - 110 .
Can't blame the book they’re in business to make money
No need to trashed them . No one did . Just a healthy arguments with good points.
GL.
Last edited by vitalyo; 02-06-10 at 04:06 PM.
I like +180 on this.
+6.5 +180 is fair. +6.5 -110 without offering the other side is not fair. Doctor should know better.....
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