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    Default Bwin 2 problems- can SBR can help me

    04-09-2009 I have placed a 2 bets on friendly match PSV Eindhoven- Arminia Bielefeld. I risked 121 euro and unfortunately both bets were losing bets. Next day I have found a report from this match on official site of PSV ( link below)
    http://www.psv.nl/Nieuws/Nieuwspagin...elefeld-10.htm
    Match wasn’t played on PSV Eindhoven stadium (in bwin offer PSV was a host), but on neutral stadium in Tegelen. According to Bwin rules, bets should be cancelled if the place of playing match was changed to neutral. According to
    that rule my bets should have been cancelled. I have informed bwin support about the situation. Initially they informed me that the bets with wrong stadium notification were cancelled. To show them that my bets
    were not cancelled as they should I sent them screenshots of my account.


    As a response the bwin support informed me that match was played in the suburbs of Eindhoven... It is really easy to find on internet a detailed location of a city. Please have a look at the link and screenshot below:


    Tegelen is in another province that Eindhoven - Tegelen is in Limburg province, Eindhoven in Brabant province! A few years ago Tegelen was merged into the municipality of another Dutch big city Venloo. It is pretty clear that Tegelen
    is not in the suburbs of Eindhoven. Moreover, Tegelen is very close to Germany/Netherland border, and closer to some big German cities like Monchengladbach. I sent this information to bwin support and awaited response with no avail. Would SBR be able to help me with this issue?

    2nd problem with BWIn.
    05-09-2009 I have placed a few live-bets on a match
    Slovenia (U21) - France (U21)
    One of them was Handicap 2:0 result X (draw) with stake 100 euro odds 4.6. Bwin opened a livebetting markets on this match at the half time. France was leading 2-0 at HT. In 2nd half Slovenia scored a goal (with the result 1-2
    bet would lose). In added time of 2nd half France scored a 3-rd goal, and the final time result was 1-3). Very lucky
    goal.
    http://www.uefa.com/competitions/und...203/index.html
    Unfortunately, just a few minutes later my bet was cancelled.


    Of course I asked support what was the reason. The answer was stating that there was an error in the offer and attached was the copy-paste bwin rules. I have tried contacting them again, unfortunately bwin support didn’t answer any of my questions:
    - what was the error in the offer (they say hardly anything about the error and considering that other bookies didn’t
    offer a livebetting on this match and bwin has started in half time, it is impossible to compare it with other
    bookmakers offers, or figure out if the handicap should be greater or smaller)
    - why the bet wasn’t cancelled immediately? I placed the bet at 3.51 pm, match was finished at 4.50 pm, bwin cancelled a bet at 4.58 pm so just a moment after the winning goal. This is totally unfair- if result was "lost", bet would have stayed as correct. After the lucky goal, suddenly the bet wasn't correct anymore. It is hard not to come to conclusion that bwin oddsmaker was waiting for the result, to decide if to cancel the bet or not. Almost always, bwin cancels live betting mistakes immediately - after few minutes max. This kind of approach is fair, everyone makes mistakes. But waiting for the FT result to decide whenever cancel the bets or not is totally unfair. Please help with having BWin reconsider this bet as correct.

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    What are the purposes of you betting at Bwin in the first place?

    Duh!

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    Yabatumba , I dont understand your question a bit. Are you asking me- why have I placed a first bet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plose55 View Post
    Yabatumba , I dont understand your question a bit. Are you asking me- why have I placed a first bet?
    There never is anything good to say about Bwin from what I hear. I think he is saying why book any action there to begin with. You have just reasons to complain, hopefully someone can help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plose55 View Post
    Yabatumba , I dont understand your question a bit. Are you asking me- why have I placed a first bet?
    My point being, you shouldn't have created an account at Bwin.com in the first place. Because, Bwin.com are merely criminals, do you understand that? Bwin.com are bloody thieves.

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    stay away from bwin,
    you're not the first one who's bets have been cancelled for no reason at all

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    Ok I understand intention of Yaba, now. In my opinion , it is not so bad sportbook. Bwin offer one of best livebetting offers ( unfortunatelly not all livebetting operators are good enough). Bwin support is reallly bad. They dont like a little bit harder problems - if a customer is right, and it means some additional operation for support/oddsmaker like cancel/uncancel a bet, bwin support just finish discussion, and dont respond to next emails.

    ps. is SBR received my complaint form? I found a few topics , where SBR great resolve a problems with Bwin. I hope you are able help me, too

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    Czesc chlopcze, ja mialem Bwin konto 2 lata temu, skradli u mnie okolo 1000EUR, mialem w ciagu tygodnia okolo 20 gier i razem wygralem te pieniadze, potem chcialem przeprawic do karty kredytowej i oni zablokowali moje konto i nic mi nie dali, tylko zwrocili depozyt.

    Bwin is a known scammer for the last 5 years, when complaints started flooding on the personal blogs...I also had account 2 years ago and won some money, then they canceled my account for security reason, what security?
    Probably they found out that I am connected to Al-Quaeda and pose a threat to European stability and I am on the most wanted CIA list
    Since then I have moved to another bookmaker, but first I double checked on Google if there are no complaints about this book, there where non so I am playing there and never had a problem with withdrawals, my biggest withdrawal was 2000EUR and many in hundreds and all works fine.
    Bwin already stole from so many customers, but I don't understand how it helps them to do that?
    How much Bwin stole altogether? I don't think this will be millions $$$? Probably hundred of thousands.
    So why they do it I really don't know, but I know they do it every single day of the year.
    They are so overleveraged with their sponsorship of Real Madrid and AC Milan that they want at Bwin only LOSERS. If customer is winning few hundred EUR, that's it, this is not their customer anymore.
    Again, Bwin customer support is the worse (I tried altogether 4 books), they will never respond in your favour if you are right. Really bad crook book, this is who they are.
    And now after reading this crap, I want to show you one YouTube video where Bwin stole from a customer money, the goal was scored by head, Bwin says by kick. WTF

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXbrVEQVraY

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