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Old 12-27-09, 04:19 PM   #1
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Default Pinnacle and their "Live Deleted Wagers"

Pinnacle reserves the right to void any bet in their "live betting" the way they want.

And they do void some bets for NO reasons.

What happened if they void a 4000 Euro stake at a +1100 line after the event has finished?

Is SBR able to handle this?
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Old 12-27-09, 04:38 PM   #2
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I bet pinnacle live lines the entire MLB season and the only ones they ever deleted deserved to be. They let plenty of errors that weren't so obvious stand throughout the season. They are A+ for a reason, I doubt they would take a shot at you unless the error was obvious.
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Old 12-27-09, 04:42 PM   #3
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What happened if they void a 4000 Euro stake at a +1100 line after the event has finished?
Wait, the event already finished and you made a bet? Of course they're going to void it.
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Old 12-27-09, 04:51 PM   #4
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I bet pinnacle live lines the entire MLB season and the only ones they ever deleted deserved to be. They let plenty of errors that weren't so obvious stand throughout the season. They are A+ for a reason, I doubt they would take a shot at you unless the error was obvious.
Thanks for the reply gamble.

They void a 3000 Euro losing bet for no reason, Iīm happy with this and thats good for me at this moment, but I canīt understand the reason to void this bet.

Today I bet 6500 Euro at +1100 at Hull and I donīt want to think about it what happens if this bets wins and they void it for no reason
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Old 12-27-09, 04:57 PM   #5
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Wait, the event already finished and you made a bet? Of course they're going to void it.
please excuse me llxc, its only my bad english
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Old 12-27-09, 05:13 PM   #6
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Sounds to me like if Hull had of won you would have lost 65,000 euros betting at other sites
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Old 12-27-09, 05:20 PM   #7
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Sounds to me like if Hull had of won you would have lost 65,000 euros betting at other sites
Hull lost but your tought is not so bad chance!!

Pinnacle do void bets for no reasons.

My question is what happend if pinnacle void several 65,000 winning bets for no reasons?
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Old 12-27-09, 05:31 PM   #8
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If you want any chance of help, I would recommend screenshoting the bets, as I think once pinnacle delete them you have no record of them in their system.

What was the bet that was cancelled, and how did it compare to the BF line?
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Old 12-27-09, 05:35 PM   #9
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When pinnacle deletes a bet it shows in your history under "Deleted wagers"
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Old 12-27-09, 05:50 PM   #10
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Take screenshots..
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Old 12-27-09, 06:02 PM   #11
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If you want any chance of help, I would recommend screenshoting the bets, as I think once pinnacle delete them you have no record of them in their system.

What was the bet that was cancelled, and how did it compare to the BF line?
Santo:

It was this one 7:11am 12-Dec-097:12am 12-Dec-09Soccer
Money LineBolton Wanderers vs Manchester City for Game 1.9713,000.002,912.62
7:11am 12-Dec-097:12am 12-Dec-09Soccer
Money LineBolton Wanderers vs Manchester City for Game 1.9713,000.002,912.62Bolton Wanderers vs Manchester City for Game 1.9713,000.002,912.62England Premier LIVE
Bolton Wanderers vs Manchester City for Game 1.9713,000.002,912.62Bolton Wanderers vs Manchester City for Game 1.9713,000.002,912.62

I cant copy and paste this sorry No way to copy and paste this
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Old 12-27-09, 06:19 PM   #12
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In-play arbs is a very risky strategy, you know that well.
The problem with getting help on what is and what isnīt a bad line is that it is very subjective.

For SBR (or anyone) to help make the case to Pinny it would have to be shown that the line was within the market bounds. But if you are able to make an arbitrage with that line.........................
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Old 12-27-09, 06:30 PM   #13
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In-play arbs is a very risky strategy, you know that well.
The problem with getting help on what is and what isnīt a bad line is that it is very subjective.

For SBR (or anyone) to help make the case to Pinny it would have to be shown that the line was within the market bounds. But if you are able to make an arbitrage with that line.........................
Thanks Dunder.

I donīt know this well, but this "we deserves the right to void any bet" from the pinnacle rules is a point which is really interesting and dangerous
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Old 12-27-09, 06:34 PM   #14
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Thanks Dunder.

I donīt know this well, but this "we deserves the right to void any bet" from the pinnacle rules is a point which is really interesting and dangerous
Indeed but pretty much all sites say the same thing even if the wording is less straight-forward.
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Old 12-27-09, 07:28 PM   #15
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Without exaggerating, I've placed thousands of bets at Pinnacle ever since they began offering live wagering.....

They've cancelled one.
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Old 12-27-09, 07:39 PM   #16
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Without exaggerating, I've placed thousands of bets at Pinnacle ever since they began offering live wagering.....

They've cancelled one.
Thatīs good news stumpage!

But if they void you a 65.000 winning wager, are you that smart?
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Old 12-27-09, 08:05 PM   #17
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Moonbeam, I can only pray that some day I've been able to place 65K on a wager.....
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Old 12-27-09, 08:06 PM   #18
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I'd be more worried that other book you are arbing with cancels than pinny
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Old 12-27-09, 09:13 PM   #19
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I bet pinnacle live lines the entire MLB season and the only ones they ever deleted deserved to be. They let plenty of errors that weren't so obvious stand throughout the season. They are A+ for a reason, I doubt they would take a shot at you unless the error was obvious.
This.
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Old 12-28-09, 01:04 AM   #20
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I have placed 100's of in-game bets. I have never had one deleted.

If you won that wager and it was a fair line, they won't cancel it.

If you bet Hull +1100 with 5 minutes left, Hull up 2-1 and up 11-10 men, the bet would be canceled... And no one would complain.
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Old 12-28-09, 02:52 PM   #21
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If you are worried about a bet that you have made Pinnacle usually posts a note on the live betting page that says which bets will be voided. The void message usually appears during the next commercial break at the bottom of the page.
I have been with Pinnacle for many years and have made many live bets and I can't remember any bet ever being voided.The only time Pinnacle will do this is if the line was totally off and an obvious error
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I have placed 100's of in-game bets. I have never had one deleted.

If you won that wager and it was a fair line, they won't cancel it.

If you bet Hull +1100 with 5 minutes left, Hull up 2-1 and up 11-10 men, the bet would be canceled... And no one would complain.
Justin,

Pinnacle covered soccer 3 way bets until 70 minutes. No second longer.

I donīt lose something with their cancelled wager, but the real problem is, there was absoluly NO reason to void this bet. I really canīt understand the reason why they void it. It was NO bad line or something, so Iīm really wondering why they void it.
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Iīm really wondering why they void it.
so have you tried asking them?
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