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    easyliving
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    Stay away from 5dimes live wagering extra

    anyone wanna tell me what the juice their charging here is? Name:  5d.jpg
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Size:  5.7 KB When I heard they were gonna start offering live wagering I thought they might actually offer some decent lines. Huge disappointment so far, and nowhere near the Bookmaker level, who obviously is the only real live betting option for Americans. Nothing wrong with offering 25-30 cent lines most of the time with props, but when your offering 25+ cent lines on NBA spreads and totals as well as MLB totals I have no interest in it. I'm not sure why anyone would use the new live wagering. If anything you can get 20 cent lines with the old live in play wagering during commercial breaks if the game is televised or you can use DSI/Bookmaker and lay -110 with a larger selection of games instead of being forced to lay -118 at 5dimes. The break even point is simply too high for a person to profit longterm laying -120+ regularly as is the case with 5dimes and I would recommend anyone who is not just an action junkue but looking to make money stay away from the new live wagering.

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    It's a copy of the heritage system fyi but you're right, lines like this are way too common. Complete joke if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478 View Post
    It's a copy of the heritage system fyi but you're right, lines like this are way too common. Complete joke if you ask me.
    wasn't aware of this as I don't play at Heritage. Live lines that are this heavily juiced are pretty much a license for the books to print money, its impossible for the books to lose money in the longterm.

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    These lines started out decent when they first launched the program. Seems like as soon as playoffs started they doubled their juice on the games. Now on NBA Spreads and Totals you are laying -121 a side. Place is not worth it for Live Betting, many others that do a way better job.

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    Are the lines real wide because they're lacking volume??

    The average US better does not Bet Live

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Are the lines real wide because they're lacking volume??

    The average US better does not Bet Live
    Maybe it´s the way around. Lines are lacking volume because they are real wide.

    And i can guess that with lines like that, the average US better will never bet live

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    5Dimes, Heritage, Youwager all use the same live betting platform. I believe they subscribe the service from same provider in Europe, because you see soccer style 3-way betting all over the place, and odds change, on/off all at same time. I don't think these books control the action or setting the lines, they probably just take whatever commission from the betting volume. The juice is so bad to allow players to bet those lines seriously.

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    Shame lines...

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    Wrong turn I think you might be right

    Great observation

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    live betting platforms should be based on US not European platform. best i seen = wsex platform.

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    5dimes odds on ML are worst than bet365. Thats really saying something considering how much juice bet365 charge. Only positive thing so far is they don't include OT in totals so if you like to bet unders you don't have to worry about OT

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyliving View Post
    5dimes odds on ML are worst than bet365. Thats really saying something considering how much juice bet365 charge. Only positive thing so far is they don't include OT in totals so if you like to bet unders you don't have to worry about OT
    You are smarter than this. If you don't like it, you don't buy it.

    There are times on these companies live betting platforms where the live opportunity is worth the spike in odds and you can get a fantastic bet. Or, for example, if you have a +280 dog FT and for one reason or another the favorite is trailing by 15 points live in-game, you can capitalize on a huge open-ended middle on both sides.

    I am certain that if you go into a porn shop, easyliving does not go into the tranny section. No, you hit up the stuff that is right down your alley. Upon leaving the porn shop do you go, "Eff this store, they've got this, that and the other of tranny instruments?"

    No, easyliving does not do that. So why should easyliving do it now when talking about a book's live offering?




    Side-note:

    5dimes is an enjoyable book. But why has not the resident 5dimes employee/poster posted in this 5dimes thread yet?

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    Haha, 25% overround, classic. Surely a mistake?

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    I do think that betonline and bookmaker has better juice on the live platform and like a couple poster says a lot more games

    I do not think Five Dimes has the manpower to handle life betting right now

    Something they sub it out which is why you're not seeing a top-flight Five Dimes product

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    +104 and -320 is not the norm. odds are not always good but there is value to be found. at 5dimes i prefer the old live betting platform but the new is not as bad as it is made out to be.

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