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    1-vice

    Got contacted by a guy named Paul. Promised me $3000 limits and i would not get limited while i am completing a rollover. Bonuses look good . But have not seen too much on these guys since 2012 . Has anyone else dealt with them more recently then 2012 ? From the older threads seems like they pay but did limit a few people.

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    I deposited $500 back in December. Took the 150% FP bonus. My limits were $250 from the start. Went on an unreal heater, cruised through the rollover and started requesting the free P2P withdrawals every week. After 3 or 4 max P2P's my limits were cut, I had already reached the rollover though. They were cut on second half NBA bets and weird shit like that. I complained and they reinstated some of them. Requested a few more P2P's and was eventually shown the door. I had around a $3K balance at that point, Griffin was extremely cool about it. He paid me the remaining balance with free P2P's. It took about a month. First book I have ever been shown the door from. Once I figured out their pattern for requesting a withdrawal and when I would be paid I didnt have any problems. They paid like clockwork. They have run of the mill lines but their customer service is their strong point. Grif or Dan always replied back in a reasonable time.

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    No recent complaints. The book is built on fraud. Apex Sportsbook closed about 6 years ago and stole everyone's money. I would suggest living bet to bet or bonus to bonus if something juicy there. Dont win an 8 teamer.

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    BILL DOZER is FOS I have nothing but respect for Griffin and all that work at 1 V I C E. Do Not take advice from fools who blew spoke up every SBR Members as about Bet Islands and then washes their hands clean of any wrongdoing. You have a lot of nerve to talk about fraud and stealing people's money BILLY.
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    I have a similar experience, was shown the door after winning a nice amount and they paid in full, even gave free payouts. They are a good book, who pay very quickly. The limits are low (250), but that's the only thing I'd say is a negative, very good experience with them and their customer service is top of the line, compared to bookmaker and 5dimes who is as crappy as it gets

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    Billy- what does APEX have to do with 1VICE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    No recent complaints. The book is built on fraud. Apex Sportsbook closed about 6 years ago and stole everyone's money. I would suggest living bet to bet or bonus to bonus if something juicy there. Dont win an 8 teamer.
    1Vice isn't even part of RDG anymore but I guess around here guilty by association ?

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    Have always been treated well. Awesome bonuses and quick payouts have been my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    No recent complaints. The book is built on fraud. Apex Sportsbook closed about 6 years ago and stole everyone's money. I would suggest living bet to bet or bonus to bonus if something juicy there. Dont win an 8 teamer.
    1vice no longer uses the RDGCorp, pph solution.

    Apex Close 10 years ago, and with the help of Justin and SBR a few years ago, all outstanding claims have be addressed and paid, and can be verified on this site.

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    Bet33 has been open to discussing player disputes with SBR, shown the ability to effectively perform risk management and has revamped their business model.

    Bet33 is a recreational sportsbook where professional players will quickly make the realization that they are unwelcome - the sportsbook is active in marketing and has made strides to improve their image in light of the negative press shouldered due to ownerships previous involvement with Apex Sportsbook (SBR rating F). Bet33 has taken care of old Apex debts that it argues were recorded after ownership departed the now defunct sportsbook. On April 26th, SBR reported that Bet33 paid an Apex player with a six-year old payment claim.

    Bet33 has not had a meaningful dispute submitted against them in the past six months - the most recent news was a player confirming a $3,000 payment in June of this year.

    Bet33 players are not believed to be in danger of being stiffed, though SBR will continue to evaluate the sportsbook's standing and monitor any incoming sportsbook disputes.


    2015 will be our 10 year anniversary of providing, of providing a safe and reliable place for online sports bettors.

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    dollars are not coming into sbr from 1vice.....that's why bill is trashing them. 5dimes stiffed someone yrs ago but bill will never tell you that...just ask justin7

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonboss View Post
    dollars are not coming into sbr from 1vice.....that's why bill is trashing them. 5dimes stiffed someone yrs ago but bill will never tell you that...just ask justin7
    That is not the truth. 1vice tried to advertise here and SBR wouldn't take them. I only know this because initially Griffin started to send the emails to me before he realised I'm just a dodo. I like Griffin but Bill's comment has nothing to do with ad $/placement or lack thereof. Far from it. If people are happy playing there...cool!! If people try to shill for them or another book here, not cool!!

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    nobody is shilling anything....they are a good rec book that sbr bashes for no reason....rdg has no involvement with 1vice...and shari clearly you know what im talking about when tony at 5dimes stiffed that player years ago....why does bill bring up APEX?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonboss View Post
    dollars are not coming into sbr from 1vice.....that's why bill is trashing them. 5dimes stiffed someone yrs ago but bill will never tell you that...just ask justin7
    I figure i have been in a bit of a rut maybe trying a new book may get me out of it . But just do not want to blindly throw cash out there. From what i see on 1-vice they have paid and not stiffed anyone . But they have limited some people . Kind of has the feel of Betmania . I do not care if a book limits you i know it is their right. But if someone takes a bonus with a rollover no book should ever have the right to limit you until that rollover is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonboss View Post
    nobody is shilling anything....they are a good rec book that sbr bashes for no reason....rdg has no involvement with 1vice...and shari clearly you know what im talking about when tony at 5dimes stiffed that player years ago....why does bill bring up APEX?
    Ask him. I was merely disputing the point you made re his comments being a result of that book not advertising here. I know firsthand they attempted to and were shutout so that's incorrect. Fair enough if you want to fling stuff but I think it's fair I rebuke the parts I know are false, no?

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    32,563.09 should ring a bell if you don't remember....also in a chat tony said "rulings are immaterial to me"

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    just still looking for consistency on here.....I mean if bill wants to bring up apex from 6yrs ago isn't it fair to disclose stiffing that the sponsor books have done? just saying....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonboss View Post
    just still looking for consistency on here.....I mean if bill wants to bring up apex from 6yrs ago isn't it fair to disclose stiffing that the sponsor books have done? just saying....
    Go for it. Still has nothing to do with the fact you posted a completely bullshit claim. The wise ones understand it's important to know of what one's speaking before losing all credibility. I get it's an easy slur to make but at least pretend to do some research first as the info disproving your claim is all publicly available.

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    somebody from SBR challenging MY credibility???? lol I cant stop laughing....betisands enough said.
    its my word against yours shari so you can say whatever you want....if people want to do the research they can judge themselves.

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    the info on 5dimes stiffing a player 32k is publicly available as well. like I said people can do the research if they so choose.

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    Fellas like I've said before and I will say again, 1 V I C E is a great sportsbook. All SBR does is bash them but in reality, look at all the money that BetIslands and SBR stole from members here on the forum. Play where you feel comfortable. For me, when I look to make a deposit, I head to 1 V I C E. Although SBR is a great place for people to connect, it has its flaws in that lots of people believe that whatever SBR says is golden (WRONG). Take everything you read with a grain of salt and do your own research. Mine tells me that I will be sticking with the good group individuals who run 1 V I C E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonboss View Post
    somebody from SBR challenging MY credibility???? lol I cant stop laughing....betisands enough said.
    its my word against yours shari so you can say whatever you want....if people want to do the research they can judge themselves.
    What are you... 5 years old?! My word against yours with what?! Griffin has already publicly admitted he tried to advertise with SBR and got turned down. I suggest you go back and re-read my posts. After that I suggest you ask yourself why you're so hell bent on sticking around such a horrid place especially when you can't get your facts straight. You want to throw out allegations like some big heffer... well be prepared to be challenged on them. Show some proof! You're the one who made the accusation. Back it the f up!!

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    bostonboss: "dollars are not coming into sbr from 1vice.....that's why bill is trashing them."

    PROVE THIS. Considering they tried to advertise here and SBR told them to kick rocks, good luck with that. Probably best to STFU when you obviously have no clue.

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    what did I post that is inaccurate? I have a few people I respect on here and chat too.....the rest I don't really care about...but like aortega said some people treat what sbr says as gold....fact is 1 vice is a good rec book...nothing special nothing bad...for bill to bring up apex is absurd..there is no connection there...but there is never any talk of the sponsor books and their shady doings/stiffings and if there is it gets deleted. I think people want to hear all the FACTS and not just bs through rose colored glasses...therefore captobey was inquiring about 1 vice I say go for it..and don't let bill's scare tactics scare you off. now ive got to make my wagers and get back to work. people do your homework..and do your own research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aortega521 View Post
    Fellas like I've said before and I will say again, 1 V I C E is a great sportsbook. All SBR does is bash them but in reality, look at all the money that BetIslands and SBR stole from members here on the forum. Play where you feel comfortable. For me, when I look to make a deposit, I head to 1 V I C E. Although SBR is a great place for people to connect, it has its flaws in that lots of people believe that whatever SBR says is golden (WRONG). Take everything you read with a grain of salt and do your own research. Mine tells me that I will be sticking with the good group individuals who run 1 V I C E.
    My main concern are the limits. He promised me i can bet anything up to $3000 . I do not want another Betmania backstab where they promise me higher limits and then limit me after 1 bet. On the site i believe it says $100 limits so i guess normally they have low limits. First i would not deposit until i see that say $3000 on the site for me. Their bonuses look fine but what good is it if after 1 bet they take me from $3000 down to $100 and i still have a rollover to complete.

    Betmania promised me $10000 but i said $5000 was more then enough. Then after 1 bet they limited me from $5000 to $250 and the guy who screwed me would not answer the phone after that. I do not want to have that happen again .

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    dollars are not coming into sbr from 1 vice FACT

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonboss View Post
    what did I post that is inaccurate? I have a few people I respect on here and chat too.....the rest I don't really care about...but like aortega said some people treat what sbr says as gold....fact is 1 vice is a good rec book...nothing special nothing bad...for bill to bring up apex is absurd..there is no connection there...but there is never any talk of the sponsor books and their shady doings/stiffings and if there is it gets deleted. I think people want to hear all the FACTS and not just bs through rose colored glasses...therefore captobey was inquiring about 1 vice I say go for it..and don't let bill's scare tactics scare you off. now ive got to make my wagers and get back to work. people do your homework..and do your own research.
    That's fine you think 1 v ice is cool. As I said I like Griffin so I don't have a beef with him. My issue was with you making an accusation that you would've seen was false if you'd bother to Google. I could start saying you're a cop who's looking to gather everyone's info. Just throw out the accusation even though if I Googled I know it's not true but my lazy ass didn't care to bother. I can keep repeating that over and over in threads and trying to derail them with yap about other books as you do. Something that has nothing to do with 5Dimes or any other book and yet here you go running your mouth when the truth is easily accessible. Again. That's my point. GL with your bets.

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    what did I type that was inaccurate? you wont answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonboss View Post
    what did I post that is inaccurate? I have a few people I respect on here and chat too.....the rest I don't really care about...but like aortega said some people treat what sbr says as gold....fact is 1 vice is a good rec book...nothing special nothing bad...for bill to bring up apex is absurd..there is no connection there...but there is never any talk of the sponsor books and their shady doings/stiffings and if there is it gets deleted. I think people want to hear all the FACTS and not just bs through rose colored glasses...therefore captobey was inquiring about 1 vice I say go for it..and don't let bill's scare tactics scare you off. now ive got to make my wagers and get back to work. people do your homework..and do your own research.
    Exactly - i figured BB that if someone on here has ever been shafted they would let me know. Honestly Boston when i look back there were a few people who said they got limited at Betmania. But i trusted the word of Kenn there and got screwed, Funny thing is after that he tried calling me from some other Book promising me higher limits again . Guess he thought i would not remember him. Then i am told by his buddy that he quit Betmania because of what they did to me (I knew that was BS ). Then like 1 month later he call me back from Betmania AGAIN trying to scam me into depositing.

    So i feel when people get shafted and come here to complain it is always a good idea to check before you go to deposit somewhere new. You are right though i want to hear the good and the bad. I still have my #1 book at Rebatewager though. Always got paid and always treated with respect.

    BTW BB just had my left arm operated on last Thursday . So more time to spend online as it is healing : )

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    now if someone asked about 5 dimes......im sure bill dozer would not say no recent complaints but back in 2012 they stiffed a gentleman whose name starts with d and ends with n 32,506 dollars.

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    hope your surgery went well captrobey need work on my knee have had 6 surgeries on it and need another..going to wait til after the summer though....as far as bet phoenix/bet mania I think there are a lot of Indians who think they are chiefs there...if you deal with people at the top they do well customer service wise and they do pay....but rebate wager is my number 1 book as well.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonboss View Post
    hope your surgery went well captrobey need work on my knee have had 6 surgeries on it and need another..going to wait til after the summer though....as far as bet phoenix/bet mania I think there are a lot of Indians who think they are chiefs there...if you deal with people at the top they do well customer service wise and they do pay....but rebate wager is my number 1 book as well.....
    Yea i was rear ended by a young guy on I-76 by Boathouse Row last June. Been going in for neck,lower back, and then my Left Arm. I qualified for the Barbados trip at end of May so i figured if i get it done now the therapy should be complete right before the trip.

    The thing that really infuriated me at Betmania though is they admitted to doing wrong and he had no right to do what he did. But yet they did NOTHING to at least meet me halfway. Someone there that is an employee promised me $5000 limits if i deposit. So Ok why not say we will put you at $2000 or so since They were the ones that screwed up. Then the guy tries calling me again from there months later like i would not remember him i guess. BB this was not a 1 -time thing . For over a year they called me over and over asking me what it would take to get me to deposit. I told them the same thing over and over , Higher Limits. I guess when someone gives me their word i expect them to be honest enough to keep it. When you deposit with a rollover to complete it is not right when a book limits you like that. Maybe you are right this guy did it on his own without management knowing. But $250 after one bet is still a major shitty thing to do after an agreement was made.

    I just do not want that again to happen here at 1-vice if i deposit.

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    I hear you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by captrobey View Post
    Got contacted by a guy named Paul. Promised me $3000 limits and i would not get limited while i am completing a rollover. Bonuses look good . But have not seen too much on these guys since 2012 . Has anyone else dealt with them more recently then 2012 ? From the older threads seems like they pay but did limit a few people.
    good to know that is amazing they will let you bet that high during rollover. Did you ask how much you can bet with the freeplay itself?? I've always had $50 bet limits with freeplay never had one over $200 but If you're looking for a dime freeplay , ask them that and report back i'm very curious to know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redondo View Post
    good to know that is amazing they will let you bet that high during rollover. Did you ask how much you can bet with the freeplay itself?? I've always had $50 bet limits with freeplay never had one over $200 but If you're looking for a dime freeplay , ask them that and report back i'm very curious to know that.
    Great point i never even thought of asking that Red .I will ask and let you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redondo View Post
    good to know that is amazing they will let you bet that high during rollover. Did you ask how much you can bet with the freeplay itself?? I've always had $50 bet limits with freeplay never had one over $200 but If you're looking for a dime freeplay , ask them that and report back i'm very curious to know that.
    He said it would be the same as what my regular Limits are. So if i deposit $500 and get a $500 FP i would be able to bet the whole thing.

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