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    Default 5dimes horrendous Customer Service agent and system glitch on asian handicaps

    Hi,

    I'll explain what happened to me at 5Dimes yesterday.

    I been customer of 5dimes for more than 5 years, and usually I bet soccer and tennis mainly, without a single complain of them. Till yesterday.

    Yesterday, I was going to place a bet on champions league soccer matches, and Asian Handicap lines where offered also for the parlays.

    I placed a parlay, and one of the lines was the match Rubin Kazan - Dinamo Kiev.
    I matched Rubin Kazan pk, -1/2 (pk means draw-no-bet at 5dimes), Obviously the odd was lower than if I would have matched Rubin Kazan straight win.

    My surprise came when all the parlay was settled as lost because this was the first match to be played, and the outcome was a Draw. In other betting sites, read Pinnacle, when you place a parlay with an asian handicap line like the one I'm talking about, they split the parlay in two parlays, one with R. Kazan pk, and the other one R. Kazan -1/2. In this case, half of the parlay would be lost, and half stay with the pk being void or tied. If not, what's the sense of accepting lower odds if the result of the parlay is the same if the match is a draw???


    I contacted CS via chat, and one agent called Monica (she didn't has any idea of Soccer I think) told me the parlay was lost because the only winning line was a DRAW on this match, and the 5dimes rules are, "all the individuals of a parlay must be won or tie for the parlay to run.

    She told me also "you like the rules when they go with you, and you don't like them when they go against you", "you should not bet if you don't understand wagering". I explined her how those kind of bets work at Pinnacle, and she told me "we are not Pinnacle, we are 5 dimes, we have our own rules" without ever understanding what was my concern.


    Lately I contacted back them, and a friendly CS specialist called Pete take my concern.

    He agreed with me that something was wrong with this line, and he told me that the wagering system had a glitch that allowed me to place an Asian Handicap line in a Parlay, but this is not allowed at 5dimes, "Asain Handicap cannot be parlayed".


    As some other lines were lost on the parlay, we agreed the bet should not be void.


    Conclusion,


    1.Take care if Asian Handicap lines are offered to you in parlays at 5Dimes, they don't work, just straight lines and spreads work there, even if they are allowed to you. They will be settled as lost.

    2.CS service at 5Dimes shouldn't have people like "Monica" who makes feel the ones who are paying her job feel like sh*t, withouth having idea of what she is talking about. CS should take care of this, 5dimes always has been famous cos of their awesome CS service


    Take care

    Josep

    Rgrds!

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    You are the second person to have complained about this issue recently with 5Dimes.
    The others posters case was very similar and he likewise got nowhere when complaining to 5Dimes.

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    monica gets to talk to you like that b/c she was on all fours in front of tony, pete prolly don't get priviledge until tony got reallllly drunk..

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    But if they'd have voided the parlay if the other legs had won, they were freerolling you because any time the Rubin Kazan match draws, you can only get your parlay voided, you cannot win. They should void your bet because of the glitch in their system.

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    just jump to another representative and do not get angry with Monica she could suffer from PMS

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    5 Dimes are a pretty good book.

    There CS outright Sux.

    Tony is a crook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven66 View Post
    5 Dimes are a pretty good book. There CS outright Sux. Tony is a crook.
    solid book that will always pay quick, but don't even try to attempt dealing with CS, flat out sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunder View Post
    You are the second person to have complained about this issue recently with 5Dimes.
    The others posters case was very similar and he likewise got nowhere when complaining to 5Dimes.

    That was me who posted the last complaint like that just two weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelC View Post
    That was me who posted the last complaint like that just two weeks ago.
    Here is the original post:

    Help decipher this loss...Asian Handicap Soccer Par

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    Skrtel fan,

    If the other lines would win, the outcome must be, half of the stake lost, and half of the stake keping on run with the R. Kazan line tied or void, whatever you prefer. Tks heaven the other lines had a loser, if not, I can't imagine whot would happen!

    Anyway, if you chat 5dimes and you get "Monica", stay away, menopausic woman!

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    Also, someone should tell 5dimes to state in their rules clearly "Asian Handicaps cannot be parlayed" and et their systems to do so. If not this is cheating the customer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelC View Post
    So in the end did you get paid?

    I see 5dimes has an A+ rating and that for stealing while Ladbrokes got downgraded for not explaining. Nice job, Justin7. Get those Pommies. I start to like you.

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    Default 5 Dimes took care of the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by acw View Post
    So in the end did you get paid?

    I see 5dimes has an A+ rating and that for stealing while Ladbrokes got downgraded for not explaining. Nice job, Justin7. Get those Pommies. I start to like you.
    I just received this email moments ago. Great job 5 dimes!

    Dear customer:

    Our general manager looked into your account regarding the Asian handicaps parlay ticket #39xxxxxx from nov 14. He credited your account with the correct amount. The error is being corrected by our programming staff. You were also credited $20 as freeplay for the error.
    Best Regards,

    Vivian
    Customer Service Manager

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    She told me also "you like the rules when they go with you, and you don't like them when they go against you", "you should not bet if you don't understand wagering". I explined her how those kind of bets work at Pinnacle, and she told me "we are not Pinnacle, we are 5 dimes, we have our own rules" without ever understanding what was my concern.
    This is the best part. They only have those bets in the first place because they copy them from pinnacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelC View Post
    I just received this email moments ago. Great job 5 dimes!

    Dear customer:

    Our general manager looked into your account regarding the Asian handicaps parlay ticket #39xxxxxx from nov 14. He credited your account with the correct amount. The error is being corrected by our programming staff. You were also credited $20 as freeplay for the error.
    Best Regards,

    Vivian
    Customer Service Manager
    So 2 weeks later they fix it, what about the OP?

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    This cannot be so

    They are A+ rated, impossible this has happened, i mean its 5dimes

    Their customer service is best anywhere in the gambling industry, it must be to be A+ and top of the posters poll as shown above.

    Justin7 upgrade them mate and quick to super status AAA+

    They are after all non European with shitty CS and taking dodgy wagers, must be a double A at least

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    Quote Originally Posted by betpartners View Post
    This cannot be so

    They are A+ rated, impossible this has happened, i mean its 5dimes

    Their customer service is best anywhere in the gambling industry, it must be to be A+ and top of the posters poll as shown above.

    Justin7 upgrade them mate and quick to super status AAA+

    They are after all non European with shitty CS and taking dodgy wagers, must be a double A at least
    Most of the euro books you promote can't book their way out of a garbage bag, they aren't any different than 5dimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by betpartners View Post
    This cannot be so

    They are A+ rated, impossible this has happened, i mean its 5dimes

    Their customer service is best anywhere in the gambling industry, it must be to be A+ and top of the posters poll as shown above.

    Justin7 upgrade them mate and quick to super status AAA+

    They are after all non European with shitty CS and taking dodgy wagers, must be a double A at least
    Heh. We all know how biased I am in favor of recommended books.

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    lol the customer service reps are pains in ths asses they dont understand shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    Most of the euro books you promote can't book their way out of a garbage bag, they aren't any different than 5dimes.
    Then if they are no different to 5Dimes why is 5Dimes rated so highly.

    Or are you saying that 5Crimes should be downgraded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Heh. We all know how biased I am in favor of recommended books.
    Dont think i have have ever accused you of being biased in favour of recommended books, more that you have no clue about European books.

    But i wont argue with your point

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    40325575-1 11/24/09 2:17am $50.00 $64,662.76 $0.00 Loss 11 Team Parlay
    Loss 11/24/09 12:30pm European Cup Soccer 102 Rubin Kazan (UCL) pk,-½ -134 vs Dynamo Kiev (UCL)
    Loss 11/24/09 2:45pm European Cup Soccer 104 Inter (UCL) +430 vs Barcelona (UCL)
    Win 11/24/09 2:45pm European Cup Soccer 117 Unirea Urziceni (UCL) pk +138 vs FC Sevilla (UCL)
    Win 11/25/09 2:45pm European Cup Soccer 23 FC Zurich (UCL) +2,+2½ +109 vs Real Madrid (UCL)
    Win 11/24/09 9:15am ATP Tennis 104 F.Verdasco Games Won +2 -120 vs J.M.del Potro Games Won
    Loss 11/24/09 3:45pm ATP Tennis 118 Andy Murray +100 vs Roger Federer
    Win 11/24/09 7:30am ATP Doubles Tennis 151 M.Bhupathi/M.Knowles -150 vs M.Fyrstenberg/M.Matkowski
    Win 11/24/09 7:00am Challenger Tennis 302 Stefan Koubek -260 vs Aisam-Ul-Haq Qureshi
    Loss 11/24/09 7:00am Challenger Tennis 303 Bjorn Phau -270 vs Daniel Evans
    Loss 11/24/09 8:15am Challenger Tennis 312 Kevin Kim -130 vs Dustin Brown
    Win 11/24/09 10:30am Challenger Tennis 316 Karol Beck -270 vs Evgeniy Donsko

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