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  1. 10-27-09 05:07 PM #1
    eagleshoos
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    I was in the hospital for nearly a week in early September. When I got home I realized that on my DC I had 4 transactions that were not mine. So I called my bank and had them reverse the charges because they weren't mine. I received a phone call a few weeks later from the casino asking why I had returned the charges. I asked for the name of the casino, and after learning it, said that I had never heard of it and wasn't sure what they were talking about. I put it together later that they were related. Then I realized an email from them saying that it would remain under investigation with them and that if they determine I was at fault, I would be reported to credit agencies and a master database of CC processors. So I shrugged it off as thinking that they'd ultimately conclude I wasn't at fault.


    Then I got an email 3 weeks later saying that the transactions were made from my computer, with my digital computer fingerprint and were made by me. Additionally, in light of my negative response to resolve the situation they were discharging my debt ("fraudulent transactions/chargebacks" in their opinion) and I will be contacted by their collections agency and/or their agents. In addition, they said:



    I guess my question is first - what the heck?
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  2. 10-27-09 05:37 PM #2
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    let me guess... you played with an online casino, lost and went to hospital, in hospital being bored you came up with a plan to charge back to recover your 'monies', the casino didn't like it...
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  3. 10-27-09 06:02 PM #3
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    Hey man - I appreciate the cynicism, but it's not really worthwhile to even talk to bitter people like you. Regardless of what you want to believe, your response isn't worth even acknowledging. There's no way for me to prove to you one way or the other so I'm just simply not going to waste my time with you or anyone else who responses similarly.
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  4. 10-27-09 06:25 PM #4
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    sounds like scare tactics from a collection agency.

    if you didn't make the charges, somebody did. either somebody you know or somebody that has stolen your name and card details. if someone has stolen your identity, then you need to file a police report and send a copy to the casino. not to mention report your card as stolen to your bank and get a new card.

    if there's a chance your card was used because of your own negligence, (like if a family member did it) then you need to own up and pay the balance.
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  5. 10-27-09 09:20 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by eagleshoos View Post
    I... I received a phone call a few weeks later from the casino asking why I had returned the charges. I asked for the name of the casino, and after learning it, said that I had never heard of it and wasn't sure what they were talking about....
    how did the casino (you never heard of) know your phone number?
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  6. 10-27-09 09:32 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by austin View Post
    how did the casino (you never heard of) know your phone number?
    Same way the casino he never heard of knew his card number, exp date and CVS code.
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  7. 10-28-09 12:42 AM #7
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    Geez, what a mess this came out to be. Were you hit on the head when playing at the casino.
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  8. 10-28-09 10:48 PM #8
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    Then I got an email 3 weeks later saying that the transactions were made from my computer, with my digital computer fingerprint and were made by me. Additionally, in light of my negative response to resolve the situation they were discharging my debt ("fraudulent transactions/chargebacks" in their opinion) and I will be contacted by their collections agency and/or their agents. In addition, they said:

    "Please be advised that in compliance with the Wire Fraud Act, your name is now flagged, your Credit Report/Credit Score will be flagged and affected and the complete personal and commercial data has been forwarded as a preventive measure against future online fraud to the Web Fraud Control Data Bank that powers the master World-Wide Pro-Unitary International Online Card Fraud Negative Data Base, which is shared by the sports industry, online sports sites, merchants, shopping sites, online CC processing companies, banks, acquirers and clearing houses who service not only ours but many other online industries and online companies in the Internet and that could be subject to the same type of wire fraud."
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  9. 10-28-09 11:13 PM #9
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    I'd be interested if his credit is actually affected by this. Eagles, check your credit report (many free ways to do this) and lets us know. That way you'll also know if they're just blowing smoke with the other threats.
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  10. 10-29-09 02:05 AM #10
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    OP,

    I just googled "Web Fraud Control Data Bank" and nothing came up for many pages. I think that notice is a scare tactic only. Now you just need to own up or file a police report. I'm 100% sure that none of the US credit reporting agencies would have any reason nor ability to post this. Especially after YOUR bank reversed the charges. GL going forward.
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    Two other things:

    1.) What countires "Wire Fraud Act?" Since the US doesn't cover such a thing as written.

    2.) http://www.netlingo.com/word/digital-fingerprinting.php (Digital Fingerprint seems like a vague catch all)

    Who was this bookie? Let everyone know since they could possibly use this wording as harassment going forward.

    PS: If it was you, like I wrote above...just man up. If not tell them to shove the wording up their a**. You have nothing to worry about.
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