View New Posts
  1. 01-19-07 03:22 PM #1
    jjgold
    www.sbrodds.com
    jjgold's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 126,259
    SBR Points: 25
    Message Me

    Default Is Tradesports The Place To Be?

    Might be the place now unless they ban Americans too
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

    SBR Founder Join Date: 7/20/2005

  2. 01-19-07 03:23 PM #2
    Dark Horse
    Deus Ex Machina
    Dark Horse's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-14-05
    Posts: 13,077
    SBR Points: 36
    Message Me

    Default

    No. Very little liquidity.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

    SBR Founder Join Date: 12/14/2005

  3. 01-19-07 03:42 PM #3
    Korchnoi
    Korchnoi's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-20-06
    Posts: 406
    SBR Points: 0
    Message Me

    Default

    For major sporting events the liquidity is fine for most people. A 200x200 mkt, 4% wide is the norm. For major major events like football, the market is .5% wide and you'll be able to do most of your size (unless you're a total whale) and odds better than Pinnacle. For minor events, you're right it sucks.

    And yes, I think TS is the best place to have your cash right now. Very safe. I took it over EFT.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  4. 01-19-07 03:57 PM #4
    Santo
    Santo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-08-05
    Posts: 2,753
    SBR Points: 552
    Message Me

    Default

    IMO any non-company seeded exchange is better than a sportsbook, it's similar to poker, the company has no exposure, so no reason not to return funds.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

    SBR Founder Join Date: 9/8/2005

  5. 01-19-07 04:05 PM #5
    Korchnoi
    Korchnoi's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-20-06
    Posts: 406
    SBR Points: 0
    Message Me

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Santo
    IMO any non-company seeded exchange is better than a sportsbook, it's similar to poker, the company has no exposure, so no reason not to return funds.
    both sportsbooks and exchanges have reason to keep your funds :-) but sportsbooks, unlike exchanges, have the possibility of being insolvent.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  6. 01-19-07 04:38 PM #6
    bigloser
    bigloser's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-19-06
    Posts: 780
    SBR Points: 2155
    Message Me

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Korchnoi
    both sportsbooks and exchanges have reason to keep your funds :-) but sportsbooks, unlike exchanges, have the possibility of being insolvent.
    At least 2 exchanges have become insolvent. Flutter and Sportingoptions. Agree it is less likely though. Still worth researching your choice though.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  7. 01-19-07 04:40 PM #7
    bigloser
    bigloser's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-19-06
    Posts: 780
    SBR Points: 2155
    Message Me

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold
    Might be the place now unless they ban Americans too
    I think there is every chance. Sportsbetting has just seperated from stocks etc.
    My guess Sportsbetting for non US other stuff for everyone
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  8. 11-30-07 01:10 AM #8
    betplom
    The one and only Guru
    betplom's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-20-06
    Posts: 13,286
    SBR Points: 16
    Message Me

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    No. Very little liquidity.
    Liquidity is up. Have a look.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  9. 11-30-07 06:17 AM #9
    jjgold
    www.sbrodds.com
    jjgold's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 126,259
    SBR Points: 25
    Message Me

    Default

    We will look today
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

    SBR Founder Join Date: 7/20/2005

  10. 11-30-07 07:40 AM #10
    2iron
    2iron's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-09-07
    Posts: 6
    SBR Points: 0
    Message Me

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    No. Very little liquidity.
    liquidity is fine imo...look at the dal/gb game last night...over 20k lots traded...even lou/rut did over 5k...fast payouts (regular mail within 1 week)...easy to understand website unlike mbook...
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  11. 11-30-07 11:01 AM #11
    jjgold
    www.sbrodds.com
    jjgold's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 126,259
    SBR Points: 25
    Message Me

    Default

    It is not a bad exchange and now have been around for while, the liquidity has remained the same bascially over the years which proves my point exchanges have limited market share. Most players want a line and bet it period.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

    SBR Founder Join Date: 7/20/2005

  12. 11-30-07 11:20 AM #12
    WileOut
    WileOut's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-04-07
    Posts: 3,839
    SBR Points: 6
    Message Me

    Default

    Matchbook is by far better than tradesports for 2 reasons. Half the price..2% compared to 4% at tradesports. And far more liquidity. You can at worst get down 20k per side on any game. Most of the time you can get more. Also at matchbook the live betting gives you a lot of liquidity too. Matchbook is the place to be without a doubt.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  13. 11-30-07 04:51 PM #13
    Hap
    Hap's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-20-07
    Posts: 170
    SBR Points: 258
    Message Me

    Default

    I agree 100% with Wileout. I have changed from TS to MB. And for in game, I like WSEX better than TS now.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  14. 11-30-07 05:10 PM #14
    Dark Horse
    Deus Ex Machina
    Dark Horse's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-14-05
    Posts: 13,077
    SBR Points: 36
    Message Me

    Default

    Tradesports was doing this long before others. If they had played their cards right they could have owned this corner of the market, instead of leaving it to Matchbook. I remember being stunned by the incompetence of the TS leadership and its unwillingness to make positive changes. Tradesports is a prime example of missed opportunity. They could have been the Microsoft of online trading, but they thought far too small. The Matchbook leadership clearly has its act together, and I'm very interested to see where they take it from here.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

    SBR Founder Join Date: 12/14/2005

  15. 11-30-07 05:52 PM #15
    SPECULATOR 13
    SPECULATOR 13's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-12-07
    Posts: 767
    SBR Points: 0
    Message Me

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Santo View Post
    IMO any non-company seeded exchange is better than a sportsbook, it's similar to poker, the company has no exposure, so no reason not to return funds.
    Also Santo do not forget the added "luxury"and peace of mind that you will not be limited in your wagers weather you have winning or loosing streaks .I had 3 Xchgs accounts(matchbook,tradesports & mansion)Mansion reverted to being just a British books (with all the bullsh*t that comes with it) so i shut them down.Now i only have the 2,however TS is a little bit disappointing compare to MB but if you want a good exchange with AMERICAN ODDS & AMERICAN SPORTS and if you want another one after MATCHBOOK WELL THERE ARE THE ONLY ONES IMO .BETFAIR is terrible they don't even post their lines with AMERICAN ODDS.
    DARK HORSE is bang on about the liquidity of tradesports sometimes you will be sitting there pulling you hair out in frustration waiting for a NHL deal because of liquidity.
    witch never happened with MB(even with the NHL).Hopefully i hope that TS will get their act together AS DH said and pattern themselves after MB also i hope that these assh*les at BETFAIR WILL BOTHER TO PUT AMERICAN ODDS one day.The exchanges are definitely a great option to have along with the top high roller books IMO.

    by the way great THREAD JJ
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  16. 11-30-07 05:57 PM #16
    Hap
    Hap's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-20-07
    Posts: 170
    SBR Points: 258
    Message Me

    Default

    I also agree with Dark Horse. TS could have stayed THE one, but blew it.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  17. 11-30-07 07:58 PM #17
    greg66
    greg66's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-04-06
    Posts: 151
    SBR Points: 0
    Message Me

    Default

    I have used Tradesports for quite a while. I prefer MB and really liked the old Mansion but TS still has its spot.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  18. 11-30-07 08:13 PM #18
    raiders72002
    raiders72002's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-06-07
    Posts: 3,372
    SBR Points: 0
    Message Me

    Default

    but TS still has its spot.
    why is this? I don't know much about TS.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  19. 11-30-07 10:03 PM #19
    greg66
    greg66's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-04-06
    Posts: 151
    SBR Points: 0
    Message Me

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72002 View Post
    why is this? I don't know much about TS.
    They hold the lines constant and just allow the players to move the odds. You can often pick up an extra half point or more from the WA line at a nice discount. As players set the market, liquidity at value can be small but it adds up. Also they never line NFL games at 3 always 3.5 or 2.5.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  20. 12-01-07 12:13 AM #20
    raiders72002
    raiders72002's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-06-07
    Posts: 3,372
    SBR Points: 0
    Message Me

    Default

    Thanks, I'll have to check it out.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  21. 12-01-07 03:40 PM #21
    BlackJack
    BlackJack's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-29-06
    Posts: 284
    SBR Points: 311
    Message Me

    Default

    is it still 5% vig?
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
Top
« Previous Thread | Sportsbooks & The Industry | Next Thread »