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Old 09-04-09, 12:23 AM   #1
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i saw some confusing things about wbexonline

it's very disturbing cause i played there some time and received 530 withdraw until now but 800 still left in my account...can anybody please help me or point me over some facts???

i really don't know what to do with this bookie..
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Old 09-04-09, 01:37 AM   #2
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What’s going on?? I also saw some strange topic over the net..was pleased with them so far..received some withdraws but still half of my money laying there..this is really mixed up can anybody spill some light on the subject?!?
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Old 09-04-09, 01:37 AM   #3
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What’s going on?? I also saw some strange topic over the net..was pleased with them so far..received some withdraws but still half of my money laying there..this is really mixed up can anybody spill some light on the subject?!?
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Old 09-04-09, 04:08 AM   #4
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I have deposited 2000, and I received 3000 withdraw and still approx 2000 left in my account for playing, so as far as I can say they are very good bookie, I think I saw the posts you are talking that saying bad things about them, but with me so far they are doing great job
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Old 09-04-09, 04:29 AM   #5
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LOL What a shame -this big scammers -dissapeared with players funds under the ShillBet name and now re-open under new name...and again licensed in Costa Rica like other fraudelent bookies-Bet7Days,WorldBEt.etc.
PLEASE Someone STOP them and post big warning on the main page.
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Old 09-04-09, 07:44 AM   #6
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LOL What a shame -this big scammers -dissapeared with players funds under the ShillBet name and now re-open under new name...and again licensed in Costa Rica like other fraudelent bookies-Bet7Days,WorldBEt.etc.
PLEASE Someone STOP them and post big warning on the main page.
When / Why do you think wbexonline will disappear like other fraudulent bookies-Bet7Days, WorldBEt, etc ?

Since so far I see only people that deposited and got there money withdraws with them so it make me wonder that they are legit. Do you know someone that have bad experience with wbexonline ?
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Old 09-04-09, 09:33 AM   #7
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Click here:
http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...-new-name.html
The guys who are satisfied are with 2-5 posts -Shillbet just have new name and will dissapear after 3 months again.
Enjoy!
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Click here:
http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...-new-name.html
The guys who are satisfied are with 2-5 posts -Shillbet just have new name and will dissapear after 3 months again.
Enjoy!
Well so far I'm going to keep betting with them as they are doing great job for me but I guess we will meet here in 3 months (I'm really going to write your user in my calender on December 1 2009 to write a message here) and see who was right

I might be right , and I might be wrong
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Old 09-04-09, 10:18 AM   #9
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so this company scams a number of people for large sums, simply disappears and pops up a few days later from the same country, from the same building with (almost) the same ip, and you willingly continue playing with them "because they are doing a great job", even though the odds they are offering are obvious as unsustainable as the shilbet odds used to be??

you're either a shill (which i doubt) or way to naive to be allowed to bet online.
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Old 09-04-09, 11:09 AM   #10
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I do not understand why there is no reference from the owner of sbr or who is responsible for it ?
anyone turned to get an official reply?

I maid withdraw for the rest of my money and I got it half an hour ago.
I sent them mail to clarify the matter.

p.s i spoke with moneybookers and they told me there is no connection between sites.
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Old 09-04-09, 08:04 PM   #11
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I just saw the post on Google

I must say that it looks odd,I had no problems with them .
I withdraw until now 340$ Hopefully more later .

Someone had a bad experience with them?
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Old 09-04-09, 08:16 PM   #12
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I'd direct you gentlemen to the SBR complaint form if you're having a problem.
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Old 09-05-09, 12:45 AM   #13
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i received the rest of my money after five hours...what's going on?? i don't understand what you talking about...did someone really get negative impression from them or all the bad stuff based on assumptions??

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i received the rest of my money after five hours...what's going on?? i don't understand what you talking about...did someone really get negative impression from them or all the bad stuff based on assumptions??

Regards
Pay ... because they have been discovered in this one and other many forums.
They pay with the money that they stole from us as Shilbet.
It was difficult to them expensivly to support the deception and I am glad very much because to disappear very soon.
When they do not still have money defrauded previously.
The suppositions cost 1480 dollars that I have never recovered to my me.
Congratulations for recovering your money
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Old 09-05-09, 06:15 AM   #15
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I'd direct you gentlemen to the SBR complaint form if you're having a problem.
When the problem is had ...... already it is too much late
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Old 09-05-09, 10:05 AM   #16
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apart from them being the revival of shilbet, they also have ridiculous betting odds. a significant number of soccer games today, the market moves one way, wbexonline does absolutely nothing and just sits on the line, reminds me very much of the way shilbet booked bets (that was before they started changing bets after the event had already finished).

every book with slow or no line management will lose money, but wbexonline likely doesn't care since they don't plan to stay around for long anyway. the fact they have paid a few of you doesn't contradict anything, new scam startups are known to pay at first to attract a bigger crowd drawn in by the positive stories. you have got to be terribly naive to think this company and these betting lines are for real.

edit: a quick example: Soccer, Spanish Segunda Division, the Cartagena vs Rayo Vallecano-match. Cartagena being heavily backed all day now, and all books have cut odds. But not WBEX Online, they are still sitting on a 3.20 odd for the homewin, you can lay off at 2.80 at Betfair. Yeah right, if betting was that easy, we'd all be millionaires..

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Old 09-05-09, 07:48 PM   #17
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apart from them being the revival of shilbet, they also have ridiculous betting odds. a significant number of soccer games today, the market moves one way, wbexonline does absolutely nothing and just sits on the line, reminds me very much of the way shilbet booked bets (that was before they started changing bets after the event had already finished).

every book with slow or no line management will lose money, but wbexonline likely doesn't care since they don't plan to stay around for long anyway. the fact they have paid a few of you doesn't contradict anything, new scam startups are known to pay at first to attract a bigger crowd drawn in by the positive stories. you have got to be terribly naive to think this company and these betting lines are for real.

edit: a quick example: Soccer, Spanish Segunda Division, the Cartagena vs Rayo Vallecano-match. Cartagena being heavily backed all day now, and all books have cut odds. But not WBEX Online, they are still sitting on a 3.20 odd for the homewin, you can lay off at 2.80 at Betfair. Yeah right, if betting was that easy, we'd all be millionaires..

it's well known that new bookies going against the marked from time to time otherwise people will prefer other more known bookies..(by the way odds comparison sites are excellent service to promote new bookies and even more for players to earn a quick buck!!)

i saw this thread on google i'm sure that lot of people already saw it,
so please guys if anybody played there please share information on how long they play and if they received withdraws from them..don't be lazy to register here it can help a lot...
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Old 09-05-09, 08:39 PM   #18
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it's well known that new bookies going against the marked from time to time otherwise people will prefer other more known bookies..(by the way odds comparison sites are excellent service to promote new bookies and even more for players to earn a quick buck!!)

i saw this thread on google i'm sure that lot of people already saw it,
so please guys if anybody played there please share information on how long they play and if they received withdraws from them..don't be lazy to register here it can help a lot...
from time to time???? they weren't moving anything, at any time half of their offer can be laid off in the exchanges at better prices! people reporting payment says nothing, the URL was registered less than 3 months ago, they've only been around for maybe a few weeks.

ffs, the signs of this being a scam are so 100% obvious, every single warning sign is there, they did not even bother getting a new IP. last post for me as i'm clearly wasting my time: people who have read this thread and still play there, should have their head examined. no pity from me when (and that's a when, not an if) this book goes offline taking all funds with them, it's so obvious it isn't even funny.
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Old 09-06-09, 01:18 AM   #19
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Good post noyb. Being consistently out of market and not leading on line moves is a huge warning sign. I don't think we had any questions on them outside of the thread but I do see they are likely on the same server as Shilbet which had 196.40.74.55. WBEX is 196.40.74.49. It's probably a rented server. Shilbet is likely not the first book they scammed with.
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Old 09-06-09, 01:25 AM   #20
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Here is the source code of Wbexonline homepage



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meta name="keywords" content="Wbexonline, bet and win, wbexonline.com, sports, betting, bookmaker, odds, betting guide, odds, sports betting, online sport bets, sports betting odds, online sports betting, poker, casino, blackjack, texas hold em, games, soccer bets, football betting,bwin, bet and win, betandwin, bwin.com, sports, betting, bookmaker, odds, betting guide, odds, sports betting, online sport bets, sports betting odds, online sports betting, poker, casino, blackjack, texas hold em, games, soccer bets, football betting, Betting exchange, premier league betting, football betting,"
Lots of mentions of bwin. Site looks similar too. Wonder if they're related, or trying to hijack traffic from a "big" book.
Anyone agree with me that they trying to copy BWIn and this is serious fraud-See the yellow-black style
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Their rules are copied from bwin as well http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Bett...ing+Rules.aspx
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Here is the source code of Wbexonline homepage





Anyone agree with me that they trying to copy BWIn and this is serious fraud-See the yellow-black style
I emailed bwin about that a few days ago - here's the reply from 27 Aug
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Dear Mr. Wakefield,

Thank you for your e-mail.

We can confirm that the site http://www.wbexonline.com has no connection to bwin.

We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for bringing this site to our attention. We have forwarded this information to the relevant department to innvestigate and take any necessary action.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further queries.

Kind regards

Your bwin customer service team
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Old 09-06-09, 09:40 AM   #23
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New books which open up or come from nowhere which have no email or a phone number on there website is more than likely a scam book or on their way to a E or F grade.
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Old 09-13-09, 11:12 PM   #24
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I learned that wbex is also using a similar backoffice to this shilbet have had - so the affiliate tracking and urls are similar as well as the XML Feed - looks strange to me.

I do wonder about odds listed at betbrain. Don't they do a check on the books they refer ? I saw wettportal and betsquare did published
wbex odds, but than stopped. I did not asked, but guess, they take care more of their users than betbrain do....
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I'm Italian and i don't speak English but I I am attaching a text written in Italian forum and then I will tell you my story.

"""""Dear XXXXXX,

We experienced some fraud attempts in the past week, so from this moment

on in order to avoid future attempts clients will have to provide us with

their ID documents.

After reviewing the ID papers in case you found suitable, we will process

your withdraw request.

The procedure will take 2-3 weeks from the moment of receiving the ID papers.

Best regards

WbexOnline.com"""""

2 o 3 weeks??????WHAT?????


I'm waiting withdraw for significant sums, but they tell me:
"""Our compliance department observing your account at the moment because of
suspicion involving illegal account activate.""""

I will never see my money!!! (over 10 thousand)
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Old 09-15-09, 09:20 AM   #26
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well this isn't exactly a surprise..
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A book called shillbet advertises itself via shills. Amazing stuff.

Anybody know if the domain www.scambookie.com is taken?
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Regards roger1979
You must notice in the Italian forums that wbexonline is a fraud and that prompt to disappear with the money of the defrauded clients

Saluti roger1979
Devi notare nei fori italiani che wbexonline è una frode e che pronto sparire col denaro dai clienti truffati.

Prima erano Shilbet cerca in questo forum Shilbet



Saludos roger1979
Debes advertir en los $forumids italianos que wbexonline es un fraude y que pronto desapareceran con el dinero
de los clientes estafados

Soy español espero que entiendas un saludo

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Old 09-17-09, 07:17 AM   #29
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In 2 or 3 weeks they were closing and then they were changing name and return to beginning


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Wbexonline....."We experienced some fraud attempts in the past week......."
Correct me if i am wrong but wasn't that pretty much what Shilbet said after a few weeks of being up?

Im sure it went along the lines that it stopped signups based on an alleged fraud, soon after that Shilbet.com vanished.

Sorry Roger but i think you had better count this money as gone, i hope that it was pure winnings and not anything to do with matched betting.

Good luck.

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Old 09-26-09, 05:12 AM   #31
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Unfortunately they seem to just disappear
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Old 10-02-09, 01:14 AM   #32
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F..K!

I opened an wbex account about a week ago, checked sbr rating they didn't have any (don't understand why after reading this). I asked a friend about wbex, he thought I was asking about wbx so he told me that they are ok.

Now I have about 7.000 usd in the wbex account and probably no chance to recive any money?
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Old 10-02-09, 04:34 AM   #33
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Damn morwena i am sorry to hear that. My only suggestion is to try and make a withdrawal in the hope that they are still at that stage where they want to appear to be legit.

Good luck.
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Sounds like no one has had a withdrawal from them yet. I hope for people who do have funds with them get their money.
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Sounds like no one has had a withdrawal from them yet. I hope for people who do have funds with them get their money.
Is it possible to suspend their bank account or something? I mean they provide banking details etc.. Costa Rica should have an istitution which regulates bookies, and contacting them may be some help IMO.
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