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  1. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    It would only have to be rigged to the point where the proof is inconclusive. Easy.
    But what's been talked about here is a huge edge.

    Even if they added 0.5% to their edge per hand through fiddling, it's easy to spot.
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    i think its fixed

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    If anyone doesnt believe that online blackjack is fixed, just ask any casino manager to give you any information on this DGS company that supposedly designed this software. You'd have better luck getting information about top secret cases from the CIA than getting any info on the so called company that designed this software

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    guys.. it is fixed.


    I talked to someone from BetPhoenix the day after i lost 300 on there electronic casinos and the Customer Service guy told me to stay away. He said that the electronic casino is from a 3rd party and the software is designed to make you lose. He told me if I wanna play blackjack, use there live casino with an actual dealer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    guys.. it is fixed.


    I talked to someone from BetPhoenix the day after i lost 300 on there electronic casinos and the Customer Service guy told me to stay away. He said that the electronic casino is from a 3rd party and the software is designed to make you lose. He told me if I wanna play blackjack, use there live casino with an actual dealer.
    LOL.

    They really need a customer service rep training program at BP. I would hate to own a company where I have to pay my own employees to bad mouth me.....

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    That is not the case at all. Can you please name the rep. What would be the point of fixing software? You have the edge overall. Blowing out clients would never be worth it.

  8. #43

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    I have played online BJ alot.....had numerous losing sessions with one huge massive winning session earlier this year. The way the cards come out it seems like it could be, especially when you get that "server lag" that tends to happen right before a tough beat or streak of beats.

    It could be fixed more like a lottery system...have a certain amount of winnings to a certain amount of losings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJbetphoenix View Post
    That is not the case at all. Can you please name the rep. What would be the point of fixing software? You have the edge overall. Blowing out clients would never be worth it.
    for one thing, im not gonna rat out a CS person who was just being honest with me.

    Theres lots of points of fixing the software.....but like he said, it wasn't YOU guys that do that with the software, but its the 3rd party company that runs the live casino.


    If we have the edge overall, why is it that the majority of people lose in online blackjack, when its close to even live?

    And yes, blowing out clients would be worth it to you crooks..... people always come back, why do you think theres so many successful casinos out there?

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    Lots of people claiming crap on these sorts of threads, but the challenge is there: prove it. It's easy to do statistically. Go to wizardofodds or one of those sorts of sites.
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    Never, ever trust a computer program to deal, unless you programmed it.

    dark horse said it the best!

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    All online blackjack is almost certainly fair. After eight years of play, aside from one monumental 5 SD aberration, I've had fair results.

    Last 10,580 hands at Betfair, -23 overall. House edge of 0.22%, about half expected.

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    go see wizardodds.com he tests all online casinos software, online casinos dont need to rig games they will keep your money anyway. is simple you will NEVER win on any casino game, but 99% of casinos gamblers think it is possible, the MIT blackjack first team whent bankrupt after a bad streak and they had a edge in the game,
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    Mugs always think the game is rigged (but keep playing anyway). In the case of casino games they're right, but it's in the design of the game, rarely in cheating.

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    Not gonna go into too much background here, but my first bankroll was built playing online BJ (albeit with bonus play). I have played literally tens of thousands of hands online. There are scam Bj software outfits and all the vets knew whose these were and stayed away. Couple guys mentioned WoO and he is the gold standard. Read his reviews and updates of software. If he says its ok software its ok software.

    I can still remember playing at some "live" dealer place abt 5 years ago. The technology was so bad, the girls wore hot bikinis and they were terrible. Drop a big card on the floor and pick it up. laughable. i won there too!! lolol I will stick with the books unless someone wants to offer me a deposit 200 get 200 25XB WR. Then i am in. Those were the days.
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    If you play with real people then you have an slight edge .I play the 21gnet software because real people are involveed in the play.But these Sportsbooks want you to play at their casinos so they put loopholes out to keep you from using the 3rd party.5dimes has a loophole whereby as if you use youre CC they have the right to ban you from third party contests and shit.They actually did me a favoor even though I dont play in their casino

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    Quote Originally Posted by katstale View Post
    Not gonna go into too much background here, but my first bankroll was built playing online BJ (albeit with bonus play). I have played literally tens of thousands of hands online. There are scam Bj software outfits and all the vets knew whose these were and stayed away. Couple guys mentioned WoO and he is the gold standard. Read his reviews and updates of software. If he says its ok software its ok software.

    I can still remember playing at some "live" dealer place abt 5 years ago. The technology was so bad, the girls wore hot bikinis and they were terrible. Drop a big card on the floor and pick it up. laughable. i won there too!! lolol I will stick with the books unless someone wants to offer me a deposit 200 get 200 25XB WR. Then i am in. Those were the days.
    The "days" were 5 and 10x WR's, or even less on occasion :-)

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    I lost $9,000 on online blackjack 2 years ago at Bodog. It was the dumbest thing I ever did in my life. I was an idiot and I learned my lesson. It's not legit, I don't care what anybody says

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