1. #1
    nl1983
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    mooregames don t pay me

    I opened my account in mooregames at 28/8 and i deposit by mb 100 euro.

    I had read the bonus T&C and i started betting.

    They gave me a bonus of 100 euro and i had 200.

    I start betting and i my account has 2119.8 euro.

    When i finished the bonus T&C i asked for a withdrawl!

    They confirmed 2 times that i finished the T&C by email and by live chat.

    This was the email from their support when i tried to withdraw.


    Hi,

    You should need to wager 2,000 Euro but also place bets on 10 different matches.
    You wagered the amount but you placed only 6 bets, therefore you need to place 4 more bets to be allowed to cashout.

    Should you need further assistance, do not hesitate to let us know!

    Kind Regards,
    Erik



    After that i place 6 more bets and i speak to live chat. Tey confirmed that i had finished with the bonus T&C!

    They asked to verify my account and i sent the documents.

    I made a withdrawl of 2119.80 euro but i take this email:

    Dear Nikos,
    Please note that your withdrawal has been declined, as the total amount requested for withdrawal breached the 17th paragraph of our general T&C stating that players are not allowed to withdraw more than 10 times the deposited amount under 30 days period.

    Considering that you deposited 100 Euros, you are entitled to withdraw only 1,000 Euro in the first 30 days.


    Should you need further assistance, do not hesitate to let us know!

    Kind Regards,Erik

    After that i made a new withrawl of 1000 euro.

    I had no problem and the money sent to my mb account!

    Yesterday i tried to make my 2nd withdrawl for 1000 euro, i had 1119.80 in my account.

    I took this email:

    Dear Nikolaos,

    Following our standard checks, we noticed that you breached several terms and conditions of the bonus you enrolled for:
    1.You placed several live bets with the bonus money and had winnings of 588 Euros on a stake of 217 Euros. This represents a breach of the bonus' T&C, specifically paragraph no 6 where is clearly states that "If the bonus money is used for betting on live bets, all generated winnings will be forfeited with no exception".
    2.You placed bets over 100 Euro, bets which is not allowed and won’t be taken into consideration towards the counting of the bonus. This is mentioned in the paragraph no 8 “ Only bets up to 100 Euro will count for releasing the bonus. Bets over 100 Euro will not be taken into consideration.”
    3.You placed bets on less than 10 different pre-live events; this is a breach of the condition no 3 and 7.
    4.Your bonus expired without you complying to our T&C, therefore the winnings generated by the bonus will be retracted as stated in condition 10.

    You can read more about the T&C here http://mooregames.com/first-deposit-bonus-100-up-to-e100/

    The breaches mentioned above resulted in having your withdrawal declined and deducting a total amount of:
    -371 Euro (588 winnings - 217 Stake) according to point no 1
    -959.9 Euro (50% * 1,919.80 total winnings) according to point 4

    Should you need further assistance, do not hesitate to let us know!

    Kind Regards,
    Erik

    I become crazy! How i can breached several terms? I didn t do anything! i had finished with the terms and i waiting to pass one month for the next withdrawl.

    I read again the bonus T&C and they had change them.

    The term 3

    3. In order to release the bonus, the player must wager the deposited amount and the bonus 15 times before any withdrawal or transfer, on odds of at least 1.95 for single bets and 3.95 for multi bets. The player must place at least 10 different bets before requesting the withdrawal.

    When i opened the account the deposited bonus amount must wager 10 times!

    The terms 6,8 added after i finished the bonus T&C!!!

    6. Only pre-live bets count towards the wagering requirements. If the bonus money is used for betting on live bets, all generated winnings will be forfeited with no exception.

    8. Only bets up to 100 Euro will count for releasing the bonus. Bets over 100 Euro will not be taken into consideration.

    I contact their support, i told them all this and i asked why they paid me the 1st time

    i took this answer:


    Dear Nikos,

    All you stated is indeed correct but nevertheless not relevant in our case.
    You were supposed to cashout maximum 1000 Euro / transaction and at that time you were supposed to place bets on another 4 events. What we recently discovered is that you wagered your bonus on live bets also, which wasn’t allowed. The fact that we approved your first cashout was just a mistake of the payment officer who hasn’t checked your bets properly.

    Kind Regards,
    Christian McNamara


    I sent again email and i explain that they are wrong but still they said that the decision is final!!!


    Dear Nikos,

    You are free to do as you want, but you are not right.
    You accepted these rules when enrolling for the bonus and you need to comply with them.
    The conversation bellow is not pointing at all that we are not willing to pay you, it is just pointing that you repeatedly breached T&C of the bonus.

    We are paying out larger amounts than yours every day, but for people who respect the bonus rules. Please have that in mind!

    Regards,
    Christian



    Dear Nikos,

    The decision taken by our management is final and indisputable.
    These are the bonus rules and all players should comply with them.

    Kind Regards,
    Christian


    Be careful with them, please tell my what i can do.

    Thank you in advance


    Last edited by nl1983; 10-02-12 at 03:08 PM.

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    King_Suckerman
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    You tried complaining through SBR yet?

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    meckis
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    They are becoming joke of a company, especialy with recent reloads they are sending. Please keep updated with your case.

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    nl1983
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    I have good news!

    I took this 2 emails:

    Dear Nikos,

    Please note that your case has been reviewed by our Sportsbook Manager and as a one time courtesy we will refund the amount of 1,119.80 Euro to your main account.
    Our advice is to make a copy (or a screenshot) of the Terms & Conditions of the future bonuses you enroll for.

    Kind Regards,
    Christian McNamara

    Account Manager
    Moore Games

    Hi Nikos,

    Yes, you can proceed further with your cashout.

    Regards,
    Christian

    They refund the amount of 1119.80 in my mooregames account,

    i will ask for withdrawl and i will inform you.

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    King_Suckerman
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    Well done Nikos!
    Looks like perseverence paid off.
    (Maybe mooregames read sbr?)

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    Mooregames playing the stall game

    Mooregames are giving me a runaround for 15 days now. They don`t proceed my Moneybookers payout of mid 3-figures.

    This is what I got from them 10 days ago:

    Our financial department is working on it. It might take a fewmore days due to a very high volume of transaction encountered in this period.
    Now they don`t even respond to my e-mails anymore. Looks like they are in trouble.

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    UPDATE: They finally paid me just an hour ago, but only after some pressure on them.

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    asan213
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    I have a account in mooregames.com from some months. Before i received my money. But before 45 days i made my pay, this was my second pay out - 1000 euro , and i waiting my money 45 days. And yet i am not receive my money. Plewase if someone know how i can receive my money to tell me. Because i waiting 45 days , every day i write on the live chat, emails , but yet i am not receive my money.

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    Phy, today is may be 50th day. Yet i am not receive my money. Every day i write in live chat and sending email. I am not receive answer. I can not belive. Please, if someone know how to receive the money to tell me. I write in complaint and Justin told me that will help me, but yet i am not receive my money.

    I want to tell in all people : do not bet and deposit money in mooregames. They do not pay me over 50 days!!!

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    Justin7
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    I have several slow-pay complaints against this book. It sounds like they are cash-short.

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    nl1983
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    They paid me 1000 euro yesterday after 21 days but their behaviour was tragic. They said all the time that my withdrawl is under proceed, that they lack of staff and they mocked me every time was trying to communicate with them telling me that i was consuming their time by answering emails instead of working. I have 119 euro in my mooregames account and i will withdrawl it at 5/11.

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    We did feature Moore Games in our latest Industry News segment, where we warned of their slow pays. This show is featured every Tuesday where we are joined by Justin7 and talk about various sportsbooks, their changes, which sportsbooks to avoid or not and more. Please check it out (Moore Games is featured towards the end of the video): http://www.sportsbookreview.com/video/sporti...-news-v-11910/Todays Industry News will be out this afternoon.

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    asan213
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    I received my money. Thanks for help.

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    meercha
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    Hi,

    I had a 4 digit cashout and I got my money in less than 20 hours after I sent my docs.
    The friend who told me about Moore Games (he is also romanian) got his money in 2 days.

    I think people should also write about their good experiences, not only the bad ones.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by meercha View Post
    Hi,

    I had a 4 digit cashout and I got my money in less than 20 hours after I sent my docs.
    The friend who told me about Moore Games (he is also romanian) got his money in 2 days.

    I think people should also write about their good experiences, not only the bad ones.

    Cheers!
    I think you are an employee at Moore Games. This is your first post and you're saying that you and your friend got paid fast. But I can't see why some got paid within a day and others not even in three weeks..

    You clearly try to promote these slowpayers.

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    meercha
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    LOL, I was trying to be fair here.

    I don't know about others, I am just saying that I play there from time to time and I cashed out every time with no problems and I like their vip program.
    I cashout fast and I guess you have had problems for some reasons.

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    Digo
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    Dark Bookmakers offering great bonuses... Nothing new here, Donadon had so much lucky!

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    Barca89
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    Hi all. I was told from SBR Pro King_Suckerman to give my 2 cents in this thread regarding moore games. I have been a member since February and always had withdraws approved from 1 - 3 days. Last couple of withdraws has taken less then 12 hours. However their prebet odds are slightly worse then for example Bet365 or Expekt and thatīs why I just play Live bets which are good. Their loyalty program with the stake back on losing bets are great and they have always paid in time for my losing bets. I am a little worried by reading the posts here and I will have a bird eye on future withdraws and if they change their withdraw behaviour. Hope my post was useful for you guys.

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    Justin7
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    I have been talking to Moore Games. Their goal is to pay everyone within 24 hours. If you already filed your ID and it takes more than 24 hours, send me a note.
    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: meercha

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    meercha
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    I also got my Stake-Back 4 days ago freee moneyyy

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