[Mudcat]

Okay I'll bite.

I chatted with Janet Fine and she told me my account was not even real.

What did she mean? Has this been resolved? Is Bonus Hunters the scam or betDOS?

[arnie_marta]

BetDos seems to be run by Mike, the one that runed Betot and was, as far as I know, fired...

Not sure of that, but it seems like.

[Peep]

Chasing 200% bonuses is a risky business, and you will get burned once in a while. Thank god Richard bailed all of us out who chased the 400% (or whatever stupid amount it was) bonuses that Betot offered before they quite understandably went under.

[Mudcat]

This thread is a million miles from proving anything bad about betDOS. I need a bit more than vague testimony from one forum identity with 2 posts before I declare CASE CLOSED.

[Mudcat]

True enough. I have also said to avoid them. I suppose I am just playing devil's advocate in this thread against jumping to conclusions based on weak forum testimony.

But there is plenty of reason to avoid Betdos, independent of this thread.



3/16/2009 10:37 PM
betdos enters SBR rating guide at D-
betdos is serviced by "Max," who formerly hosted and serviced scam sportsbooks AtlantisBets and DunHillCasino, and owned and operated BetBones and Premiumbettor. Max now uses his resources to service new sportsbooks--one being BetFirstClass (SBR rating D). BetFirstClass ownership was unaware of betdos but the sportsbooks share the same IP address and database server. A username from one of the sportsbooks will also work on the other book's website. betdos has not yet answered SBR's inquiries. As with all new turnkey sportsbooks, betdos should be avoided.

[chepaco]

Seems to me more like the good old boy got his bonus and wants to pull a fast one and not completing the rollover or perhaps the book is covering themselves against a sharp payer. 200% is an interesting bonus but 12 times roll is tough.

[Bill Dozer]

Hi Charles,
We asked BetDos to look at this thread and consider prorating your bonus...we'll see what happens.

[shantystar]

scam .

[Bread]

scam .

Absolutely.

[arnie_marta]

BetDos seems to be run by Mike, the one that runed Betot and was, as far as I know, fired...

Not sure of that, but it seems like.

I wan't to make a BIG correction,,


It's not Mike, is Frank Fernel...........

[rufcut]

This is very curious because when I had problems getting paid at betOT I contacted BetPhoenix about a transfer to them (and was told I didn't need a transfer because Phoenix owns BetOT) and the person I spoke with at Phoenix CS was called Charles Merritt.
Now a lot of people think there is a link between BetOT and BetDos... don't ask me what, but there is something fishy here.

[rufcut]

Lol, in fact it was Charles Merrit who told me I shouldn't have joined BetOT in the first instance, but should have joined a safe book like BetPhoenix.

[shantystar]

betphoenix is a good book to play with!

[Karla]

This is very curious because when I had problems getting paid at betOT I contacted BetPhoenix about a transfer to them (and was told I didn't need a transfer because Phoenix owns BetOT) and the person I spoke with at Phoenix CS was called Charles Merritt.
Now a lot of people think there is a link between BetOT and BetDos... don't ask me what, but there is something fishy here.

Are u really sure that the Phoenix CS was Charles Merritt? If that so, there is indeed something fishy happening here since u have also mentioned that BetOT and BetDos are linked with each other..

I'm expecting Charles merritt to reply on this though..

[rufcut]

OK, I looked back over my records.

As it happens, I forwarded my Chat Transcript with Charles Merritt to help@sportsbookreview.com on Feb 2 when I was looking for help with my betOT payout.

I was inaccurate in what I said above insofar as it was Charles' boss Fred who told me that Phoenix owned betOT. Charles took the line:


Charles Merritt: We are sharing a building with OT but they are not owned by us
Charles Merritt: well I am sorry you feel that way but we pay our customers so it's hard to argue with that
Charles Merritt: it's unfortunate that you didn't sign-up with us instead of OT

[Bill Dozer]

BetDos response:

Hello Bill
I am very disappointed by the player. I will forward the thread to you ins the player refused to identify what his problem was and then went straight to make this false report.
Firstly, we do not have any money from this guy. he is a worker at Bet Phoenix and opened a free betting account. We did make it clear to him that we do not take players from Costa Rica. (you can see the transcript).
Secondly, after he won some free money on his free account, he tried to make a deposit in attempt to withdraw more than the $50 maximum available on such account. His account was created in the old system, (begins with D, not DOS).
He then gave $120 to another worker at Bet Phoenix and [someone else] who is the owner of Bonus Hunters, again we made it clear to the owner of bonus hunters that we do not take local players from CR, and that he should refund the money to his friend. We also explained the pretext for Mr. Charles wanting to make a deposit, that is to be able to withdraw more from his free bonus account.
As we have paid all other free bettors who have qualified, we are prepared to pay Mr. Charles the maximum payout of $50. We never took his money, and we did make it clear to him that we do not accept local depositors.

Let me know if I can be of further help.

Kind regards
Richard Fein
Administrator
Bet Dos Sportsbook
Direct Offshore Sports

I didn't quite follow everything here but asked..
Why did you let them play if you warned them ahead of time?
Charles was just a free account and we do not screen free players until they request a rollover check. That is because they are usually so many. However, if a local player try to deposit, he is told that we do not accept local players.

[Bet Dos]

Bet Dos has made every effort to resolve this issue amicably. We must make a few things clear. We never told this player that we would not pay him. We never solicited his deposit and we never took his money. The misunderstanding is that he gave the money to a co-worker (who has no approval from Bet DOS Management to collect on our behalf, much less accept local players), who according to Mr. Merrit still has his deposit.

We have not scammed Mr. Merrit or anyone.

Regardless of all the above, Bet DOS has decided to protect the player since he may have been mislead at the time when he gave the money to his co-worker. We have closed the account since it is a local player, but we are honoring his winnings and have already paid Mr. Merrit.

[moonbeam]

Bet Dos has made every effort to resolve this issue amicably. We must make a few things clear. We never told this player that we would not pay him. We never solicited his deposit and we never took his money. The misunderstanding is that he gave the money to a co-worker (who has no approval from Bet DOS Management to collect on our behalf, much less accept local players), who according to Mr. Merrit still has his deposit.

We have not scammed Mr. Merrit or anyone.

Regardless of all the above, Bet DOS has decided to protect the player since he may have been mislead at the time when he gave the money to his co-worker. We have closed the account since it is a local player, but we are honoring his winnings and have already paid Mr. Merrit.

[moonbeam]

If you are not a new sponsor of SBR, please go away.

And please stop your email spam offering 600% bonuses

[Bet Dos]

If you are not a new sponsor of SBR, please go away.

And please stop your email spam offering 600% bonuses

Bet DOS never offered such bonuses. What is your problem with Bet DOS?

[BigDaddy]

i have made deposits into my BetPhoenix account thru charles merrit as he is an account rep like a few others i have used also when my main rep J galloway wasn't in for the day.

is this him posting a complaint about his own book he works at?

i have his email address in my contact book

[doowahdiddy]

Ive found Betdos to be ok, yes a lot of unwelcome spam but paid out fine and cs was as good as any other ive contacted

[raddle_snake]

I'm wondering why Charles Merritt didn't reply on this thread given the fact that he was the one complaining about betDos which they have replied already in the said matter..

Where are you bro???

[moonbeam]

This is so strange it can be true. Nice company.

[Bet Dos]

Mr. Merrit continues to ignore the core issues of this case.

Bet DOS does not accept local players.

We never received his money, and we do not have a deposit method called "Pay to your co-worker".

We removed the following amounts from Mr. Merrits account before paying him: $120 (we never received this money, so we can't refund it), $250 (money won from his free bonus account). Of the remaining $424 we paid Mr. Merit $250 (An amount that was agreed to by both parties, we did honor our side. We paid it).

Even though we had made it clear to Mr. Merrit that we do not accept local players (We have sent copy of this chat transcript to Bill Dozer), we decided to honor his account since he had a witness that he paid money to his co-worker.

As this forum can see we did not try to make Mr. Merrit look bad, rather we did more than was required in this case - protected the player and paid him.

I find it also strange that Mr. Merrit having called Bet DOS a scam would want to give the money back to us and continue playing.

[moonbeam]

tell us more

[potless]

Now you know the entire story and you can decide on where the BS is coming from.I can guarantee nothing like this happens where I work.
Charles Merritt

you're funnier than moonie

[Peep]

This is so strange it can be true.