[DEP78]

I received an email (a couple actually - the initial one and a couple of followups) tonight from Griff at *****. I'm pretty sure that several others have gotten the same email(s). He is offering a $50 freeplay every week in return for 20 posts, but you have to change your avatar to a ***** logo. NONE of the posts have to promote ***** in any way. It seems like a good deal in terms of getting something for nothing, but at the same time SBR (Lou - I will be sending a PM to you) might not be too happy about this (free advertising in a sense), along with many forum members.

Note - I've never made a deposit to *****. I have turned a $100 freeplay into $29 cash (yeah, good job there).

Please, keep in mind I'm not promoting ***** or anything, but a $50 freeplay a week for 20 posts would be nice.

If it's allowed by SBR (big if), is whoring yourself out (basically that's what this would be doing) is it worth it?

[cutter2225]

I never consider a free play a bad thing and none of the 20 posts have to be about ***** so its not like total whoring LOL but if you have an issue Lou let me know.

[shari91]

Advertising material is not permitted on the forum or via PM. If Griffin wishes to advertise at SBR he can contact a staff member to be put in touch with the appropriate person.

[Bill Dozer]

I received an email (a couple actually - the initial one and a couple of followups) tonight from Griff at *****. I'm pretty sure that several others have gotten the same email(s). He is offering a $50 freeplay every week in return for 20 posts, but you have to change your avatar to a ***** logo. NONE of the posts have to promote ***** in any way. It seems like a good deal in terms of getting something for nothing, but at the same time SBR (Lou - I will be sending a PM to you) might not be too happy about this (free advertising in a sense), along with many forum members.

Note - I've never made a deposit to *****. I have turned a $100 freeplay into $29 cash (yeah, good job there).

Please, keep in mind I'm not promoting ***** or anything, but a $50 freeplay a week for 20 posts would be nice.

If it's allowed by SBR (big if), is whoring yourself out (basically that's what this would be doing) is it worth it?

That's funny. ***** thinks this is NASCAR. Post the PM here DEP?

[5mike5]

sounds cheap and desperate

[shari91]

sounds cheap and desperate

Even worse I'm waiting for cutter2225 to log in and blast me because I changed his avatar to my favourite ranga. (Sorry cutter but I use that one for everyone and you can't advertise here regardless of what a book is offering you). xo

[dolson]

Does the offer stand for players who have been cut off by ***** for winning a few $$$ like me ? Im sure they are being very selective , I would turn that $50 into five dimes in three days,

[djefferis]

Really?? Was it nessceary to post this offer publicly?

The man offers current posters (at various forums) who are signed up @***** a gift, and you post it publicly. I mean if you felt SBR admins need to be aware of this, by all means notify them via PM. But posting the offer publicly just creates more headaches for the Guy (from posters who didn't get the offer).

As far as griffin goes, say what you will about the shops he's promoted in the past, but the Guy is a marketing genius by the standards set by most books. He offers free money just to keep his books brand out there in forumland. Truely in the same league as Shrink was and the braintrust at SBR remains.

Sometimes the little guys came up with the best promos. I'm just waiting on a book to send me a bottle of Scotch again for my deposit...just finished off the last of the bottle of the good stuff BO sent last January. Back to JW red for me I guess.

[djefferis]

Fwiw- I seriously doubt they thought this would last a week, so a few fifty dollar freeplays right before football was a genius move to sucker players in.

Even better if it makes forums, who they pay nothing to, look like censors. Not saying I blame any forum who removes the offending pic from posters, they have long standing sponsors to think of. I can't show up for work wearing shirts advertising anything I like when I meet with customers/clients.

[onlooker]

[BigDaddy]

i didn't even get a chance to switch mine.

offer is already off the table

thanks for ruining it.

looks like i am stuck with pool balls for another 5 years

[shari91]

To be fair djeffris and bigdaddy - If you had switched your avatars and I noticed that people were doing it all at the same time, I would've banned you for awhile. You guys know better than this. Instead cutter got his avatar changed to my favourite and no infractions/bannings were issued. If a book feels this is a good way to advertise, more power to them. But please don't be the suckers who fall for this for the chance at a free play. I actually really enjoy talking to Griffin but this was not one of his better thought out plans - at least at SBR.

[BigDaddy]

well that would have sucked

never been banned here before.

[BrianLaverty]

LOL @ *****...

[cutter2225]

Even worse I'm waiting for cutter2225 to log in and blast me because I changed his avatar to my favourite ranga. (Sorry cutter but I use that one for everyone and you can't advertise here regardless of what a book is offering you). xo

Why would I blast you? A rules in place I wasn't aware of and you acted accordingly. Of course I will mention the continued support for the frauds at B-O-L is disgusting and asinine but I'm powerless to change money motivated decisions.

[DEP78]

That's funny. ***** thinks this is NASCAR. Post the PM here DEP?

Bill,

I'm not pimping ***** or anything, but when you get an email saying you can have a $50 freeplay every week it's worth considering, but at the same time I don't want to tick anybody off running the show at SBR. You asked that I post the PM. Here is the PM I sent to Lou. I haven't heard back, but here it is.

"Lou,

I received emails from Griff at ***** about 'renting my avatar'. For a $50 freeplay every week I would have to make 20 posts a week - not necessarily for promoting *****. Seems like this free advertising might get me banned at SBR (I like this place), but if it's okay a $50 a week freeplay would be nice. Please see my post.

Note - I have never yet made a deposit to *****. I did get a $100 freeplay that I turned into $29 cash (I know). "

I'll forward you the original email and the followups if you like.

Although the freeplay every week sounded good, it also seemed like it would go over like a fart in church. That's why I posted the offer here to see if anybody else here got the same offer and what they thought about it. I swear that I have no affiliation with *****.

I swear I'm not trying to start anything or BS anybody. I was just asking people's opinions here because many people here that I respect their opinion on many topics.

Also, I got an email saying that the offer has been pulled. Probably shouldn't have started this thread in the first place. I swear to God I had no ingenious motives.

[blanda]

The guys at Americasbookie are very cool....they will take care of you!

[Bill Dozer]

Bill,

I'm not pimping ***** or anything, but when you get an email saying you can have a $50 freeplay every week it's worth considering, but at the same time I don't want to tick anybody off running the show at SBR. You asked that I post the PM. Here is the PM I sent to Lou. I haven't heard back, but here it is.

"Lou,

I received emails from Griff at ***** about 'renting my avatar'. For a $50 freeplay every week I would have to make 20 posts a week - not necessarily for promoting *****. Seems like this free advertising might get me banned at SBR (I like this place), but if it's okay a $50 a week freeplay would be nice. Please see my post.

Note - I have never yet made a deposit to *****. I did get a $100 freeplay that I turned into $29 cash (I know). "

I'll forward you the original email and the followups if you like.

Although the freeplay every week sounded good, it also seemed like it would go over like a fart in church. That's why I posted the offer here to see if anybody else here got the same offer and what they thought about it. I swear that I have no affiliation with *****.

I swear I'm not trying to start anything or BS anybody. I was just asking people's opinions here because many people here that I respect their opinion on many topics.

Also, I got an email saying that the offer has been pulled. Probably shouldn't have started this thread in the first place. I swear to God I had no ingenious motives.

Dep,
Don't worry. This is all harmless and just kinda funny. The avatar wouldnt have lasted a few posts anyway. BTW, I meant post the message from ***** but no worries.

It's pretty common for books to try to work the forums. Known posters will get hooked up with extra bonuses or comps and lead to think it's because the book is just full of good guys but they are motivated by sending an advocate for them out in the forum wild. Usually they aren't as obvious as *****. The marketing guys they have are pretty new to the whole thing and make Americasbookie and ***** look bad.

[minet123]

It's pretty common for books to try to work the forums.

The real players in the industry
Pinnacle
CRIS
Grande
Greek
could give a rat's behind what said on the forums

the 2nd tier players(not the best description-the guys who pay but are not taking 30 dime wagers)
legends
5dimes
Tradewinds
heritage
blackdog
Could also give a rats behind whats said on the forums

The straight up thiefs
Sportsbook
betmcdonalds(US)
Casablanca
the Tica wanna be mafia(SBG)
Topbet/oddsmaker
Could give a rat's behind whats said on the forums

The ones you should expose are the post up operations that to quote you
"try and work the forums"
they are the "post up" danger