[xyz]

I am looking for ways to get down bets on this weekend's Kentucky Derby for a particular horse to not win. I know Matchbook would have this once they put the market up. I am looking for alternatives in case there are not enough offers up at Matchbook. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[Wheell]

Pinnacle.

[xyz]

Thanks for the info, Wheell Unfortunately I have no access to Pinnacle. Any other outs available to US based players?

[Wheell]

possibly 5dimes.

[HedgeHog]

Originally Posted by Wheell

possibly 5dimes.

Yes, 5D has done this on previous Derbies. I expect they'll have win/won't win odds again this year.

[Chuck Sims]

Matchbook for sure.

[xyz]

Originally Posted by HedgeHog

Yes, 5D has done this on previous Derbies. I expect they'll have win/won't win odds again this year.

The not win odds started to pop up on 5Dimes today. Not win odds for horses with odds +1000 or longer are -99999.

[HedgeHog]

Originally Posted by xyz

The not win odds started to pop up on 5Dimes today. Not win odds for horses with odds +1000 or longer are -99999.

That does suck. Perhaps they'll put up actual don't win odds tomorrow.

[xyz]

Also be careful of the fine prints: some books have "NO REFUNDS ON NON RUNNERS", and 5D has "any nonrunner is no action". I will probably wait until Saturday morning to lock in the bets. Who knows what can happen to the horse overnight.

[xyz]

Originally Posted by xyz

Also be careful of the fine prints: some books have "NO REFUNDS ON NON RUNNERS", and 5D has "any nonrunner is no action". I will probably wait until Saturday morning to lock in the bets. Who knows what can happen to the horse overnight.

"I want revenge" fits this case exactly.

[HedgeHog]

His bets were refunded. Win/Don't Win Odds are contingent on the horse actually running. As such, the bets have to be reimbursed. Future bets to win are a different story. If deemed "action" all non-runners lose. Sadly, I see a lot of top books keep scratched horses listed so as to attract uninformed bettors. Quality Road is a great example; Books continued to steal money on this scratched competitor long after the fact.