[Jasper11]

I played at VIP for many years. Last week GT Bet had a 5 day promo for a 100% bonus with a 4x rollover. This was offered via Email to ex VIP and Nine players. Their customer service was really patient with my many questions so I took my chances for a few hundred. I really don't anticipate trouble since they are aware that folks are waiting,watching and evaluating them but if it should go badly I will be sure to post about it here.

[Legions36]

Good so far almost done with my rollover so i will have to keep u posted on payouts. I say go for it SBR Lou said they have no outstanding debts and paid back all the old VIP players that were owed money. But the only thing left for me to do with them is payouts, i like everything esle so far about them. They give u the ability to pick 2 teams for the entire season and get a free whole point the entire season on each team, NBA, NCAA, NFL, on the spread. Only thing u should know is sometimes the really late games get graded by the morning but thats just the late game and only happened a few times.

[5mike5]

they are FAR from what u were use to at VIP believe me(14 year member there), but thats what they hope u think...even less options than they had, but no outstanding complaints in a month or so from what ive seen

[BOP24]

Hey 5Mike...why don't you just call GT and settle your issues with them. Do they owe you money? Tell SBR staff if they do. I personally love the book since all the checks cleared

[Legions36]

I mean if they are giving away 100% bonus upto $500 how can u go wrong? they even have all the time 50% signup bonus, u still cant go wrong with that either. But i don't want to talk much until i have my cash in hand, im taking it slow there since its my first time with the book. They also have loyalty program.

[macb]

Mike needs to get his head out of his ass in all threads. Thinks his is the word. LOL

[touchback]

Congrats on the rollover almost done... new services are generally very good out the door for the first 3 to 4 months with prompt payouts and good customer service. They are trying to establish a name/brand and a good reputation to attract a reasonable player base that can support initial operating costs. It is the period right after that will show a books true collors... when the bigger bonuses and free bets are lowered for more realistic long term financing. Always confirm that the backing and management has been confirmed and solid and anyone should be comfortable with the initial experience with any new outfit that has met these basic requirements. Mike has also hit the nail square on the head.... when it comes to this particular situation. I dont believe GT was completely open about the circumstances of the launch initially and came around under publicity and they are not the only new brand exploiting the VIP brand and reputation. Mike is right to basically take these guys with a grain of salt... but so far no serious complaints. They most likely will be a solid out if they can make it to the next season... the year was a little brutal on some outfits I have heard, especially the first couple months which can put undo strain on a new service and processors. Legion, maybe you could put them on the clock with the forum when you request your payout so we can know for sure.... over 5 dimes would be even better to see how good there finances are and over 10 even better. Anyone can bang out $200 to $300 all day long, doesnt really show true colors, just hints.

[5mike5]

Congrats on the rollover almost done... new services are generally very good out the door for the first 3 to 4 months with prompt payouts and good customer service. They are trying to establish a name/brand and a good reputation to attract a reasonable player base that can support initial operating costs. It is the period right after that will show a books true collors... when the bigger bonuses and free bets are lowered for more realistic long term financing. Always confirm that the backing and management has been confirmed and solid and anyone should be comfortable with the initial experience with any new outfit that has met these basic requirements. Mike has also hit the nail square on the head.... when it comes to this particular situation. I dont believe GT was completely open about the circumstances of the launch initially and came around under publicity and they are not the only new brand exploiting the VIP brand and reputation. Mike is right to basically take these guys with a grain of salt... but so far no serious complaints. They most likely will be a solid out if they can make it to the next season... the year was a little brutal on some outfits I have heard, especially the first couple months which can put undo strain on a new service and processors. Legion, maybe you could put them on the clock with the forum when you request your payout so we can know for sure.... over 5 dimes would be even better to see how good there finances are and over 10 even better. Anyone can bang out $200 to $300 all day long, doesnt really show true colors, just hints.

exactly right in ur post....they lied to me from the get go...and i was a very happy vip.com customer for 14 years..they havent made it through 1 year yet or football offseason, so we shall see how it goes...seems ok for now, but that can change overnight for these start-ups, just be careful

[Ron29301]

I started last week with these guys. I haven't cashed out yet. Im trying to build my bank roll before cashing out. I always choose not to select the bonus. Just 1 less obstacle I have to deal with when its time to get my money. BOL to those that are members. Hopefully we win and get paid.

[secretstash]

If your not going to accept bonus why even deposit there? U can get reduced juice at 4 or 5 SBR Pro books with no bonuses and never have to worry bout payout ever.. The absolute only reason u should ever deposit at a lower tier new book is to take a huge bonus.. Otherwise ur risking ur money for no reason at all when u could have had risk free with half the juice elsewhere.

-stash

[Ron29301]

If your not going to accept bonus why even deposit there? U can get reduced juice at 4 or 5 SBR Pro books with no bonuses and never have to worry bout payout ever.. The absolute only reason u should ever deposit at a lower tier new book is to take a huge bonus.. Otherwise ur risking ur money for no reason at all when u could have had risk free with half the juice elsewhere.

-stash

Yeah I would risk $49(total deposit so far) for $1000+ at this point. So I think I am doing pretty good. My concern is getting paid that's all. Shit I'm doing better here with my betting decisions then 5dimes. Maybe its the layout or being me just precarious about my straights and parlays instead of having the option to buy points. I tend to load the parlays with 16+teams. Since I hit on a parlay at GTbets I've been consistent with my parlays with less teams involved and more money down. I understand where you are coming from.

[secretstash]

If ur balance is 1K it's time to test the payout waters.. Why get it much more which would be more likely to stiff then. Gl bro.

-stash

[Ron29301]

Im trying to see what happens today with my parlays then I'll be ready. Im on it.

[touchback]

Yo Stash... right. No bonus player and posting up to GT, seriously... what is he thinking. The only reason you would post up at this place or similar is for a bonus. Sorry Ron, I am just annoyed by another thread. Guy deposits, takes a bonus, reads the terms and conditions, does not meet the them and comes on the forum calling the service scum because he did not meet the terms and conditions. Seriously, go get health insurance and tell them you dont smoke when in fact you smoke 2 packs a day... and when you get diagnosed with cancer and they dont pay because you smoke turn around and call them cheats. Good luck, cant imagine how unhappy this guy is with life because it is always the world getting over on him.

[touchback]

Ya... it is all good. Tried to lighten up a little.... rock on, sorry mean lock. Starting Monday go bang someones door down a come back and tell who it was. I bet your gonna have a good week for some reason.

[PLA]

Got a 50% cash reload, finish rollover in 4 days. Fast payout and great customer service

[OUTCAST]

Got a 50% cash reload, finish rollover in 4 days. Fast payout and great customer service

Good to hear that. I just starting to play there.

[BAUS]

What are your betting limits there ?

BAUS

[brendon]

What are your betting limits there ?

BAUS

Whatever they listed on their webpage is their actual limits. I've placed 3k bet on NFL before and 2k in baseball. I don't play soccer, tennis, etc so i can't really comment on those sports.

[dark star]

Deposited there 2 weeks ago...loved playing at VIP.Hopefully they will stick around