[paganes]

My english is not good,sorry...

I have problem in the BETCRIS with payout.
I sended request for withdrawal for 555,-eur.
They tell me,for withdrawal must be verification me.
I sended full scan (front,back) of my ID card
After i sended full scan of my **** card (front,back).
In the back sides of my **** card is *** number (3-number)and this was obscure,because this number is only for me,not for other people and organizations.
In the front side of my **** card is number uncovered.
I think for my person verification in BETCRIS is good this data.
But BETCRIS need my *** number.I no understand why.
Only if i will send this number,i can do it withdrawal.
*** number is only for me,if i will send this,my card will be unsafe.
Anybody of the BETRIS can be using this card,because they will have all information about this card (name,address,card number,*** number).
I sended many email in BETCRIS but answer is the same,they need full scan of my back side my **** card.From BETCRIS is this extortion.My last email without answer,they ignored me !!!

I readed in the other forums,that is usualy in BETCRIS.Many people have problem with payout if not sended *** number.BETCRIS don´t pay !!!
If BETCRIS don´t pay 100 people x 500,- eur = 50.000,-eur.This is good business for BETCRIS.

BETCRIS is in the category A+ and payment nothing...Is rating A+ only camouflage???


If i will send *** number in BETCRIS,i must go in my bank and deactivate this card,because will be not safety.Its terrible.

This is email is from CENTREBET,where i playing:
...When sending a copy of your credit/DC, please cover the middle
eight digits on the front of the card and cover the *** (last three
digits) on the signature panel on the back of the card...
They respect my security.Withdrawal without problem.

Please help me,what can i do it?Thank for every answer.

[Jamie_UK]

When you deposit to most European books you have to fill in the *** on the deposit page, so they will have it anyway, also whenever I have sent scans, they have usually wanted to see the *** on the card.

TBH I would simply send your *** and get your money, then if you are very worried get a new card from the bank and maybe use Neteller or Moneybookers in future for bet Cris transactions (if you can)

[RonPaul2008]

Places of business often ask for the 3 digit number.
Yes, it makes the number pointless, but this is pretty routine.

[xxxvince]

if u want ur winnings. provide what they ask .. duh! if u dont feel safe, u shouldnt be gambling online .. u are whining abt giving out cvc number? u must be kidding.. hope u understand my english, stop whining provide all the info, get ur winnings and have fun

[Fizzz]

I think that they do this to protect themselves from chargebacks and that kind of stuff. I had a friend that had the same concern, then I had to beat him into his senses and he sent the copies, since he erased the numbers. He then emailed the whole thing and he was able to withdraw... he has never had any double charges or any other weird stuff on his bank statement

[paganes]

Thank you for all answers.
My deposit was from this **** card,BETCRIS have my card numbers with *** numbers from this transfer.
Any documents sended at the email is unsafe today (many hackers in the internet)this is another risc for me.
For verify my identity and legal age i sended too much information in the BECTRIS.
*** is only my privat number.I go playing in another bookmakers...

[fearless]

One thing you could do is give them the *** number then immediately call your CC company and tell them you lost your card. They'll cancel the card immediately and send you a new one.

[CS-Cedrick]

One thing you could do is give them the *** number then immediately call your CC company and tell them you lost your card. They'll cancel the card immediately and send you a new one.

Yeah, why not, an then he uses the card again and gets a flag as per Fraud prevention. Not a good choice sir

[fearless]

Yeah, why not, an then he uses the card again and gets a flag as per Fraud prevention. Not a good choice sir

Why would he use the card again? Once you report the card lost you cut it up and never use it again.

I was expecting this guy to have normal intelligence. Who would use the card after reporting it lost?

I didn't think I'd have to say "Don't use the card after you report it lost." That's common sense.

[CS-Cedrick]

Why would he use the card again? Once you report the card lost you cut it up and never use it again.

I was expecting this guy to have normal intelligence. Who would use the card after reporting it lost?

I didn't think I'd have to say "Don't use the card after you report it lost." That's common sense.

The other card, don't you see it fishy if someone comes with a new card every day to your shop? besides, he'll end up filling out a ton of forms, but, now that you say it I insist, common sense is not so common.

[CS-Cedrick]

Do you know gambling is illegal? Do you know what it means to keep a low profile? Doesn't seems like you do.

[fearless]

Do you know gambling is illegal? Do you know what it means to keep a low profile? Doesn't seems like you do.

I don't think this guy lives in America. Online gambling is legal in many places. You're probably right but I was just trying to help this guy with his immediate problem.

[CS-Cedrick]

I don't think this guy lives in America. Online gambling is legal in many places. You're probably right but I was just trying to help this guy with his immediate problem.

Yes but still, Although we're in CR you guys could be prosecuted in the US in the case something happens (such as getting a new card you feel like it), besides if this guy's not European then he's from a muslim country and even worse if he's from Turkey, they do cut your balls out if they find you gambling in those countries as well as they will prosecute you in most European countries. If you change your card every now and then your bank will find it fishy.

[Santo]

My guess from the post is Eastern Europe. His government could likely care less.

[CS-Cedrick]

My guess from the post is Eastern Europe. His government could likely care less.

Hopefully, it's not our intention to piss you off fellahs, it's to protect you. That's why we ask for those things and I know it's difficult to belive in some companies, which is very healthy, but, in these cases with a big history backing us up it's nothing you should be afraid off, do your homework when you look for a new book.

[paganes]

I from Slovakia

Sportbetting,casinos and other gambling is legal in my country.

[Fizzz]

Still, once you cut the card (which you should not), they would ask for an official statement from the bank (backing u up Ced) to check that the card was actually terminated. That would take ages. Also, why not fax it if you do not trust the email thingie? Remember that the information is encrypted in a 128 bit and to protect the privacy of your CC number and other ordering information, we encrypt this information for transit over the Internet using a Secure Sockets Layer ("SSL") connection.

[paganes]

I talk with operator many times before.He want still just my card with *** numer.3 days before i sended full copy of my **** card with *** number.
I sended more emails in BETCRIS and no response...
Today i talk with operator.He want **** card copy what i sended 3 days before...
I sended this again.Now i have my money in moneybookers.
I sended many emails and they ignored me,only live operator helped me.Transfer was 2 hours long only.I will have new **** card in the next week.
End of story.Thank you for all.

[simmmy]

Cris is wrong on so many lines of security... CS ops asking for passwords... and now you have to show ALL your card details right down to the *** number. The standard proceedure is to delete the middle 8 digits and the *** number , if a book cannot compare a card and uphold the customers security from that they should not be used.

Aussie books have a 100 point rule ...along the lines of >> 70 points for a passport scan , 20 points for a card scan (deleteing front 8 digits and ***) and 10 points for submiting a utility statement.You need to clear or hit the 100 points rule , if not then no withdrawal.

JamieUK post is totally wrong... when submitting over the internet your *** is encoded and the bookie cannot see your *** number , it goes straight to the bank or credit supplier for authorisation.

Ronpaul2008... only ordering over the phone should you give your *** number ... thats why i do not use that method.

As the OP (Paganes) said.. the *** is ONLY for him to know... if he gives this *** info out he has no protection from CC companies or his bank.... NO ARGUMENT ON THIS ... FULL STOP.

Never ever give up your ***..


OR

If your receive a phone call from someone saying they are from your CC company making a check on your account and they ask for this *** number DO NOT GIVE IT TO THEM... they know all your details already by scamming your bins but they do not know the *** .. that is why they are calling you, tell them you will call THEM back on the number on the reverse side of your card.... then listen to their moans.

Cris needs to come into the 21st century FAST.

I am not saying Cris as a company will defraud your account....but employees might, it's not worth the risk... join Moneybookers and make sure you use differant passwords on every account.

[simmmy]

The other card, don't you see it fishy if someone comes with a new card every day to your shop? besides, he'll end up filling out a ton of forms, but, now that you say it I insist, common sense is not so common.

Why would he come in with a new card each day?

Only Cris asks for this info so once he gets his withdrawal he deletes the card and does not use Cris again because of the security risk. There is no need to keep updating cards as NO other bookie on this planet puts a customers security at risk.

[simmmy]

Do you know gambling is illegal? Do you know what it means to keep a low profile? Doesn't seems like you do.

Cedrick... there is a big world out there where the FREE can place place bet legally over the phone or internet. The WWW in addy bar stand for "world wide web".

It may be in name or phrase called the "land of the free" but they can't be that free if they can't openly bet.

[simmmy]

Yes but still, Although we're in CR you guys could be prosecuted in the US in the case something happens (such as getting a new card you feel like it), besides if this guy's not European then he's from a muslim country and even worse if he's from Turkey, they do cut your balls out if they find you gambling in those countries as well as they will prosecute you in most European countries. If you change your card every now and then your bank will find it fishy.

Good God you are ignorant...!

[RonPaul2008]

In the USA, bookmaking or running an unlicensed casino is illegal. Gambling is not illegal.

Do you know gambling is illegal? Do you know what it means to keep a low profile? Doesn't seems like you do.

[RonPaul2008]

They pay and they pay in the time they advertise.
They rarely limit people.
Lots of offers.
They deserve an A.

Like I said in my thread, Bookmaker (Betcris) is ridiculous. I think that was shown THROUGHOUT this thread.

When will SBR lower them from A+, bc this is NOT an A+ book PERIOD