[playz]

Otherwise known as the Paradise Club... My question is any one familiar with it? It says for every 100 wagers they take the average wager and give you a free play up to $200.00 I think. So just say you make 10 $2,000 wagers and then make 90 $2 wagers and ask for the free play would you get it? Is that considered fair? I do not want to take a shot at them. It just says no correlated or manipulated wagers. Is that considered manipulating wagers? Thanks

[bigboydan]

It's the average of your entire 100 plays up to $200 no matter how you wagers are bet sir.

[playz]

Ok just say i bet 2000.00 for 10 games and then $2 on 90 games. Thats an average bet of $202.00 for 100 wagers. So they will give me that free play? Is that considered taking a shot at their loyalty program? All I am saying is that if I bet regularly 2000.00 a game and I do that for 100 wagers .. I am going to get the same 200.00 free play so why not make a bunch of minimum wagers to get the 200.00 free play more times.. is that taking a shot at them? Or is it fine.

[big joe 1212]

(2000*10)+(2*90)/100=201.80

your free play would be for $201 on the first 100 wagers

if you then played 100 more wagers at $2 each, then you would be down to..

(2000*10)+(2*190)/200=101.90

so then you would be down to a $101 free play

[dynamite140]

are you automatically in the club? I been using betjamaica for 1 year maybe but withdrawn the last of my money.

[big joe 1212]

Originally Posted by dynamite140

are you automatically in the club? I been using betjamaica for 1 year maybe but withdrawn the last of my money.

yes you are, but they only do it M-F, so you have to call Monday!

[dynamite140]

what do you mean by that big joe?

[big joe 1212]

They only process the requests for the loyalty bonus free play Monday-Fridays

[playz]

Originally Posted by big joe 1212

(2000*10)+(2*90)/100=201.80

your free play would be for $201 on the first 100 wagers

if you then played 100 more wagers at $2 each, then you would be down to..

(2000*10)+(2*190)/200=101.90

so then you would be down to a $101 free play

Do they only do it in increments of 200.00? So you are saying it is the average of all your plays in blocks of 100. So at 200, 300, 400..etc. plays it is the average of all of them? Do you have direct experience with this.

[Casperwaits]

I have cashed in on the BetJamaica Loyalty program numerous times. It is just this simple. Whataver your average bet is over the 100 bets is what you get as a freeplay. The EXACT average. they do not round up or down. Remember, it is a freeplay and not instant cash in your account.

[playz]

Originally Posted by Casperwaits

I have cashed in on the BetJamaica Loyalty program numerous times. It is just this simple. Whataver your average bet is over the 100 bets is what you get as a freeplay. The EXACT average. they do not round up or down. Remember, it is a freeplay and not instant cash in your account.

it isn't limited to 200.00 free play per 100 wagers?

[big joe 1212]

Say you have made 5000 wagers. The free play size is the average of those 5000 bets! But you get a free play every 100 bets. I have made like 50,000 bets there over the years, so if I play $300 a game or $5 a game for the next hundred wagers, my free play size may only change like $1 at the most because they will average the 50,100 plays.

Do you get it now or does Justin have to make a video with a scientific chart?

[FrozenMAN]

Originally Posted by big joe 1212

Say you have made 5000 wagers. The free play size is the average of those 5000 bets! But you get a free play every 100 bets. I have made like 50,000 bets there over the years, so if I play $300 a game or $5 a game for the next hundred wagers, my free play size may only change like $1 at the most because they will average the 50,100 plays.

Do you get it now or does Justin have to make a video with a scientific chart?

LOL i was thinking the same thing

[playz]

Yes I understand I'm not retarded but betjam is telling me different they are saying it is the average of the past 100 wagers and that the free play is maxed out at $200 free play for every 100 wagers. Is it maxed out at $200 free play for every 100 wagers?

[big joe 1212]

they seem to adjust rules as they go, so just take whatever they give you as it is free!

[playz]

placing $2 wagers wouldn't be considered taking advantage of their system?

[Casperwaits]

If you haven't "cashed in" on the bonus from your previous 50,000 wagers you are SOL. Whatever your last 100 wagers average is, is what you get. Forget getting any bonus retroactive to your wagers before that.

[big joe 1212]

Originally Posted by Casperwaits

If you haven't "cashed in" on the bonus from your previous 50,000 wagers you are SOL. Whatever your last 100 wagers average is, is what you get. Forget getting any bonus retroactive to your wagers before that.

incorrect!
unless they recently changed it.
My cousin cashed in like 20 free plays at once cause he never knew about it.
This was like last summer

[playz]

Originally Posted by Casperwaits

If you haven't "cashed in" on the bonus from your previous 50,000 wagers you are SOL. Whatever your last 100 wagers average is, is what you get. Forget getting any bonus retroactive to your wagers before that.

is it maxed out at a 200.00 freeplay? And do you think making 10 2000.00 wagers and then 90 $2 is taking advantage of the system? Would they care?

[big joe 1212]

Originally Posted by playz

is it maxed out at a 200.00 freeplay? And do you think making 10 2000.00 wagers and then 90 $2 is taking advantage of the system? Would they care?

no actually!

my cousin has a million $2 bets cause he round robins 5-6 teams and boxes them!

I do the same thing some times and they give it to me. The only thing is if thats all you do then you will bring the amount of free play down

[playz]

but they told me they limit it to 200.00 per free play is that true? Hvae you ever gotten one above 200.00?

[Casperwaits]

I will try to say this simply. Bet HOWEVER you want on your 100 bets. they could care less if you do 90 $2 bets and 10 $2000 bets. Whatever the AVERAGE is over the 100 bets is what your free play will be. The most you can get is a $200 freeplay. Guys, try not to over think it. It really is that simple.

[Casperwaits]

Originally Posted by big joe 1212

incorrect!
unless they recently changed it.
My cousin cashed in like 20 free plays at once cause he never knew about it.
This was like last summer

I use BetJam and you cannot cash in 20 free plays at once.

[playz]

thanks just no one answered my question completely. Thanks got it now

[Cash]

I'm getting a headache!

[big joe 1212]

Originally Posted by Cash

I'm getting a headache!

me too

[craigpb]

Thanks for the tip; wasn't aware of this.

Is it just one free bet or can you use it as you like? Also if you win how many bets do you have to make to be able to withdraw it? Thanks.

[BTK]

I cant believe this thread is still going on. Its not really that hard. You have the Average amount of your LAST 100 wagers...If your average is 500 then you will ONLY get 200 because that is the max.

As far as the the other questions...You can use it how many times you'd like...you will have a new area that says "free play" as you bet you click that box and use the amount you would like. Keep in mind, if you have a 100 free play..and you bet a 100, you will NOT have 200 in your account. I would think this is understood. There is a 4 x's roll over on your winnings.

[Pokerjoe]

You guys aren't getting playz point.

He isn't asking how the freeplay is calculated.

He's asking about how BetJam would respond to betting designed to get a 2k bettor a 2k freeplay. That is, to avoid the $200 freeplay max.

If you are a 2k bettor...you can get a $200 freeplay every 10 (real) bets...if you mix in 90 essentially fake little $2 plays...which would give you an extra $1800 in freeplay action compared to someone who also makes 2k bets but DOESN'T mix in the fake little $2 bets. Meaning, you'd have a 2k freeplay for every 100 real bets.

This is a way to get around the max $200 freeplay rule.

Playz is asking if anyone knows how BetJam would react to this. And it doesn't look like anyone knows. Only BetJam themselves would know, really. And they may not have thought it out yet.

[BTK]

What is this bullshit, real and fake bets??

Every time you hit the accept button it is real, regardless of size or how you want to manipulate the system.

[Pokerjoe]

Originally Posted by BTK

What is this bullshit, real and fake bets??

Every time you hit the accept button it is real, regardless of size or how you want to manipulate the system.

Dude, if you don't understand what playz is talking about doing, fine. You don't get it. Fine. But to come in here and call something bullshit because you don't understand it is ... bullshit.

Playz has found a way to circumvent the $200 freeplay cap. He's explained it, and I've re-explained it.

Yes, the $2 bets would be real. Duh. That's why I labeled them "essentially" fake. Not fake. "Essentially" fake.

Because if a 2k bettor puts in 45 1$ bets on one side of a game, and 45 1$ bets on the other side, to get a 2k freeplay on 100 2k bets, those 1$ bets are "essentially" fake. They are designed to circumvent the freeplay limit, and a sportsbook may decide they aren't happy with that circumvention.

DUCY?

[playz]

Originally Posted by Pokerjoe

Dude, if you don't understand what playz is talking about doing, fine. You don't get it. Fine. But to come in here and call something bullshit because you don't understand it is ... bullshit.

Playz has found a way to circumvent the $200 freeplay cap. He's explained it, and I've re-explained it.

Yes, the $2 bets would be real. Duh. That's why I labeled them "essentially" fake. Not fake. "Essentially" fake.

Because if a 2k bettor puts in 45 1$ bets on one side of a game, and 45 1$ bets on the other side, to get a 2k freeplay on 100 2k bets, those 1$ bets are "essentially" fake. They are designed to circumvent the freeplay limit, and a sportsbook may decide they aren't happy with that circumvention.

DUCY?

You are correct. I wanted to know how they would react. Some people just don't get it...

[bluefish]

Those ganja smoking fools told me it is your average on not just your last 100 bets but all your bets. I kept on getting $75 freeplays even though I bet more. I don't play at that pos book anymore. You could have Scotty jerk you off over the phone, they are still a pos book.

[Santo]

Playing $1 both side would be drawing un-neccesary attention, but if you just made $2 bets randomly you'd expect to lose a lot less vig than the extra bonus.

[playz]

Originally Posted by Santo

Playing $1 both side would be drawing un-neccesary attention, but if you just made $2 bets randomly you'd expect to lose a lot less vig than the extra bonus.

you would think...