[Newguyintown]

I thought it would be interesting and helpful for all of us to know who limits and/or boots quickly. This way we can try to lay down some cover bets to disguise our true intentions to win. Any piece of info will be helpfu.

1) Wagerstreet. They will limit you after ONE betting session of 5 bets! Yes, a fresh brand-new customer eager to get your gamble on and you will be shown the door.

2) Beted. They will limit you after ONE betting session as well!

3) Beteagle. Goodbye after around $10k or so maybe. Took a while to get that so I would think they do not monitor your account as you go, only based on the final figure.

4) Trojan. That was a while ago, I don't even remember how much I won so likely not much. I just remember being put on phone-in only and then I asked about reupping there and was told I was not welcome.

Its tough because most all of these places will boot/limit to some extent but after one just one betting session?

That's it for starters.


NG

[Newguyintown]

Betting Limits


Here's the same idea....hope that magically becomes a link.


NG


ps. It DID become a link! I dont believe that!

[bigboydan]

Both Bet365 and Boylesports are pretty fast at limiting players sir.

[rm18]

only had it from bodog, beted, and vip, though none of them were extremely fast to do so.

[HedgeHog]

Beted for sure. They limited me to $10 after my first payout.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Beted allowed me to run up several thousand profits, then limited me to nothing when I went for a payout :-)

Nobody limits like Boyles though. I've lost 4/4 bets there, and still am limited to something like $1. I've heard of some people being limited after one $10 bet.

[LT Profits]

SIA

[Mudcat]

In the last month or so, a contact of mine got slashed at Sports Interaction after 5 bets I believe it was.

Bet365 is notorious. 5 Dimes has a bad reputation. Sportbet will start cutting things down when they see any kind of winning streak.

I have heard reports of almost all books cutting limits - up to and including Pinnacle. But that takes a little more doin', I think.

[LT Profits]

Originally Posted by Mudcat

In the last month or so, a contact of mine got slashed at Sports Interaction after 5 bets I believe it was.

Bet365 is notorious. 5 Dimes has a bad reputation. Sportbet will start cutting things down when they see any kind of winning streak.

I have heard reports of almost all books cutting limits - up to and including Pinnacle. But that takes a little more doin', I think.

Case in point!

As for 5 Dimes, Tony is more apt to slash you if you are just chasing steam. As long as you get your bets in early and beat them fair and square, you should be OK.

[j-e-t-s jets]

Greek will not cut limits unless there's good reason. Matchbook will never cut as they are an exchange. I see no reason at all to use any books but greek and matchbook.

I requested a payout from greek last week for 7,950 and it was at my door within 24 hours. The week before requested 4,000 and it was at my door in 24 hours.

2 weeks ago requested 3,000 Matchbook- at my door 36 hours.

All checks cleared within 2 business days.

Don't mess with these 2nd rate books. And I'm sorry- if books like 5Dimes cut limits then they are NOT a top book. Think about that- it's bullshit, would they cut your limits if you lose?????? Hell no, they'll let you bet away your house, family etc as long as you're losing....once you start to win they limit you????????? I rate them an F book as in FU 5Dimes.

By the way, I'm not claiming to be a good better with my recent payout. LUCKY is more like it. And trust me, I have lost all of that and then some this year.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Greek have rubbish odds though :-(

[Stumpage]

Not to sound like the broken record, but Bet365 take the cake. In my experience, there is no book even close.

I found 5Dimes to be fairly quick in not only limiting my wagers but showing me the door, but then again I was completely nuking them at the time.

WillHill and Ladbrokes were quick to limit me as well, with WillHill especially panicking...

Anyway, my 2 cents.....

[durito]

Fastest to limit was VIP after one bet, but I've won there for years since without issue.

I was down at Bet365 when they booted me years ago.

I won more at SIA than 5dimes. I think LT works for 5dimes

I'm about to try a bunch of Euro books so we'll see what's next.

[bigboydan]

Originally Posted by durito

I'm about to try a bunch of Euro books so we'll see what's next.

My guess is you will be limited rather quick Durito. If you would please let us know how your journeys go in the Euro market.

[remmy358]

Originally Posted by LT Profits

Case in point!

As for 5 Dimes, Tony is more apt to slash you if you are just chasing steam. As long as you get your bets in early and beat them fair and square, you should be OK.

"beat them fair and square"???

so getting in your bets late is not betting fair and square???

Sorry LT, ANY bet put in before gametime is fair and square, despite what you and your gaming buddies and other touts seem to think :-)

[LT Profits]

What I meant was getting plays in early and not ONLY chasing steam.

[durito]

I made maybe ONE play at 5dimes that could be considered steam. And is it really steam if they haven't moved 5 minutes later?

Beating them on their horrendously priced props and other exotics got me $50 limits rather quickly.

[HedgeHog]

5 Dimes recently cut me to $50 on reduced juice bets (instead of $500). Still have reg limits on everything else.

[Tunes]

Could the guys that were limited at VIP elaborate? Steam plays? Consistent winning? What was it that got your limits cut?

[rm18]

Originally Posted by Tunes

Could the guys that were limited at VIP elaborate? Steam plays? Consistent winning? What was it that got your limits cut?

most props and buying off the 3 for 15 cents in NFL. Also was scalping a bunch of obscure college basketball 2nd halfs with pinnacle.

[John Dough]

Originally Posted by j-e-t-s jets

Greek will not cut limits unless there's good reason.

That depends upon your definition of 'good reason'.

- Don't dare chase steam there or you'll be warned and/or cut off from betting online.

- They'll cut your prop limits if you win.

- They started cutting teaser limits to $100 for those who knew what they were doing.

In any case, I stil love them and couldn't do without them personally, but they do cut limits and impose restrictions. It's up to you to decide if their reasons are 'good'. Personally, I have no problems with a book doing this. They want to make money and have a right to run their business anyway they see fit (short of robbing you of course). Once restrictions are imposed, you always have the option of taking your action elsewhere.

[John Dough]

Originally Posted by Tunes

Could the guys that were limited at VIP elaborate? Steam plays? Consistent winning? What was it that got your limits cut?

VIP is the only book that flat-out BOOTED me many years ago. I was mainly betting props there, and winning. Then I bet an NFL season wins future after a player was seriously injured in preseason before they took it OTB. I was immediately shown the door, but they promptly paid all outstanding bets, including futures that cashed several months later.

[John Dough]

Originally Posted by LT Profits

Case in point!

As for 5 Dimes, Tony is more apt to slash you if you are just chasing steam. As long as you get your bets in early and beat them fair and square, you should be OK.

Agree. They don't want you betting steam there and they're pretty clear about that. They're also pretty quick to cut your reduced juice limit from $500 to $50. That said, if you bet everything else, you shouldn't have a problem. If those restrictions aren't ok with you, you can take your action elsewhere.

[Stumpage]

Originally Posted by John Dough

That depends upon your definition of 'good reason'.

- Don't dare chase steam there or you'll be warned and/or cut off from betting online.

- They'll cut your prop limits if you win.

- They started cutting teaser limits to $100 for those who knew what they were doing.

This is absolutely spot on.....I already had my ominous "Call Customer Service" pop up when I wasn't able to log into my account one day, and was told over the phone to refrain from steam chasing. That was a few years ago and it did the trick, as I was left with the very clear impression that they would not hesitate at all to close my account if there was another "steam incident".....

[vanman]

Paddypower and Bet365.

[gryzonko]

European based books:
- betsafe ( a few bets are enough)
- B365 (semi-fast, but if you play "bad" bet you are limited immediately
- sportingbet ( like b365)
- betsson (fast)
- Stan James family ( semi-fast)
- Paddypower (very fast)
- betway (semi-fast)
- winunited (very fast)
- interwetten (vey fast)
- boyle ( very fast)
- scandic ( fast)
- stryyke (very fast)
- mybet (veryfast)

[John Dough]

Originally Posted by Stumpage

This is absolutely spot on.....I already had my ominous "Call Customer Service" pop up when I wasn't able to log into my account one day, and was told over the phone to refrain from steam chasing. That was a few years ago and it did the trick, as I was left with the very clear impression that they would not hesitate at all to close my account if there was another "steam incident".....

They usually put you on "phone-only" rather than close your account. I've had my account frozen a few times over the years, but only once for 'steam'. After complying with whatever they wanted, they always unlocked it and I'm still allowed to bet online. As long as you play by their rules (once you're informed of them of course), Spiro and Wally seem pretty reasonable.

[durito]

I got the phone only deal once too. Called, they asked me to stop doing something, I did and they unlocked it.

[SlappyWhite]

This is probably the wrong thread but BetUS got me to join up by offering insane lines. For instance TheGreek might have +110 -130 or something like that and BetUS would have +160 -190 so I would arb between TheGreek -130 and BetUS +160 for sure money. This lasted for about the first 3 weeks I joined then all of a sudden the lines were normal.

[bigboydan]

Originally Posted by gryzonko

European based books:
- betsafe ( a few bets are enough)
- B365 (semi-fast, but if you play "bad" bet you are limited immediately
- sportingbet ( like b365)
- betsson (fast)
- Stan James family ( semi-fast)
- Paddypower (very fast)
- betway (semi-fast)
- winunited (very fast)
- interwetten (vey fast)
- boyle ( very fast)
- scandic ( fast)
- stryyke (very fast)
- mybet (veryfast)

Have you ran in to any time delays at all before getting the boot from these books sir?

[kiwi]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

Have you ran in to any time delays at all before getting the boot from these books sir?

European books rarely install a time delay. Instead they limit you rather fast and sometimes boot you. But also the limits are enough to make them absolutely useless after a while.

[kiwi]

Originally Posted by Newguyintown

I thought it would be interesting and helpful for all of us to know who limits and/or boots quickly.

Actually I think it's much more interesting to find books who limit slowly (or not at all). Which books beside Pinnacle and asian books fall into this category? TheGreek and Bookmaker limit slowly but their odds (especially the odds of TheGreek) are rather bad: in soccer the asian books are always better and in us sports Pinnacle is (nearly) always better...

[king of the deck]

BETONLINE. I bet college bball total steam on ONE game. Yes, ONE. They put my wagers on a 30 second timer. This was a couple days ago.

I bet some more steam today. They put me on a 60 second timer.

About a half hour later they closed my account, I had to call and talk to a manager to get it reopened. Was on hold for like 15 minutes. Apparently I made an acct there about a year or so ago, but I had never used it to wager etc. So apparently they JUST discovered this, and wanted to make sure I only have one acct with them.

I went 4-0 tonight in hoops, suddenly at 11:30 PM my acct is closed again. I called, but I have to call back and speak to a manager tomorrow during the day to get it reopened. I asked why my account is being closed in the middle of the night if there are no managers working. I never got an answer. Site is rated an A- right? They are pretty frivolous with the account closings/reopenings/closings for being an A- book.

I guess betting steam is a crime, and actually winning at sportsbetting is a mortal sin. Even at A- books.

[tmoney]

Wswx And 5 Dimes 2 Low Class Scum Bugs.payout Delays Etc

[gryzonko]

Originally Posted by kiwi

European books rarely install a time delay. Instead they limit you rather fast and sometimes boot you. But also the limits are enough to make them absolutely useless after a while.

Yes, time doesnt matter in European books. A few too attractive bets (dropping odds etc.) with high stake, cause a limit.
Most useless account after limit, IMO:
- b365
-paddy
- boyle
- sportingbet
- betsafe
All of them - max stake is less than 10 euro

Mybet can also dont accept any single bets from limited player.