[genozzolo]

Hello

Im new in all of this.
I did some bets like 7 years ago on betandwin ( now bwin ) then stopped with it.

Im just looking around and saw some stuff about surebets, about some kelly systems etc. and have some money to spare on those stuff.

I mostly know just soccer and Im from Italy so if anyone could suggest me some trusted bookmark site.

I saw differents also "A Rated" but sometimes u see ppl complain about it.

Thanks for advice

[bigboydan]

First off, Welcome to the SBR forum

Betfair would be a good exchange for your soccer betting needs sir.

[genozzolo]

too bad its not reviewed like others, cant see where's the benefits of last joined ppl, how intertops ?

[bigboydan]

Intertops (SBR Rated B+) is a solid book. The one thing you have to remember is that they are a recreational type book, so you will have to play accordingly. They do have prompt payouts and their lines are pretty good. However the software they use is very hard to navigate through IMO.

[genozzolo]

sorry my idiocy, what it mean that is a recreational type book ? thanks

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Soccer betting = pinnacle is the only choice, imo :-) Especially for big four leagues like Italy, they have those lovely -102/-103 odds the day before the match. Nobody else can even begin to compete with that, let alone american-focused books which tend to have very poor soccer odds.

[bigboydan]

Originally Posted by genozzolo

sorry my idiocy, what it mean that is a recreational type book ? thanks

Recreational type book means for players who bet mainly for entertainment purposes, sir.

[genozzolo]

was looking around for a site that gives some bonus also, of course, mostly who offers big bonus are then pointed as scammers by mostly

pinnacle site its currently down , its good with bonus ? saw some of bonus stats, or theres better ( always trusted site btw )

my last question, thanks !

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Originally Posted by genozzolo

was looking around for a site that gives some bonus also, of course, mostly who offers big bonus are then pointed as scammers by mostly

pinnacle site its currently down , its good with bonus ? saw some of bonus stats, or theres better ( always trusted site btw )

Pinnacle give a 10% signup bonus, to max $500 I think. 12bet also give a signup bonus of some sort.

If you're looking for reload bonuses, pretty much any place that offers them will have rubbish soccer odds. Mansion88 are the only one I can think of - they have something like a dimeline and do 10% reload bonuses (to max $100ish I think) the last three months. Canbet are worse (16c or something?), but do fairly frequent and sizable reload offers.

Past that, the US books are way worse. For example, Diamond/betcris give frequent reload and betpoint bonuses, but only do 40 cent lines.

[Wilforth]

Gamebooker shoulld be an excellent choice.

[genozzolo]

im the only 1 that cant access pinnacle site ? site is down and getting up just main page

[bigboydan]

Originally Posted by genozzolo

im the only 1 that cant access pinnacle site ? site is down and getting up just main page

The Pinnacle website appears to be working fine for me at this time sir.

[genozzolo]

ok it work was ip and italy prob

[genozzolo]

seems its totally different from the prev site that i was using.

for example i gone on the match Juventus - genoa . Dynamic lines

Juventus : theres some options like -0,5 and - 1 1.781
-1.5 2,820.

and genoa + 1 1,847
+0,5 2,490
etc

+1 genoa mean if genoa wins ?
and what is -1 or -1.5 ?

sorry but i was used just to 1X2

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Those are asians handicaps, although they have 1x2 also. The purpose of a handicap bet is in reducing the three outcomes to two - eg with +0.5 if it's a draw you add +0.5, so you win.

Generally you get a lot better odds with asian handicap than with 1x2, although with pinnacle the gap isn't quite so enormous as with some others.

[genozzolo]

Pinnacle have so many problems , at least for me. Cant connect often.
Any other good choice for a soccer ppl ? I would like to bet on mostly matches around, not just important series.

[bigboydan]

Have you checked out SboBet yet sir? They might not have an SBR rating at all, however many poster say they are a top tier book.

[genozzolo]

ok sorry you got a third choice ? hehe

I started to love this site, and I dont wanna start my 1st exp with a book that is not even rated. I know by use forum search , there was only 1 complain.

[kiwi]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

Have you checked out SboBet yet sir? They might not have an SBR rating at all, however many poster say they are a top tier book.

SBOBET is my prefered book for soccer. But in case he is not so experienced with asian odds he can use 188Bet because they have better 'normal' 1x2 soccer odds.

[genozzolo]

188bet you got ip ?

cuz from Italy i cant access cause of monopoly law -.- and cant find around the ip

thanks

[genozzolo]

Sbo doesnt accept neteller, doh nvm it then, was looking cool with graphic also

at least it say there isnt Euro as payment

[kiwi]

Originally Posted by genozzolo

Sbo doesnt accept neteller, doh nvm it then, was looking cool with graphic also

at least it say there isnt Euro as payment

SBOBET and 188Bet offer Euro as currency. Both offer Moneybookers as payment method. 12Bet also offers Neteller additionally.

If a 'cool' site is most important for you better ask other people because I care more about profit than about colourful and entertaining websites. (Try bwin, they have also an italian version and look very 'cool'.)

[genozzolo]

pinnacle live kinda missed the south america matches , are 6-7 atm on.
Bwin same 0

188 Bet and Sbo are kinda good and they are on live.

I see in both site they ask for [Neteller (1-PAY)] , and maybe gonna ask them if I can upload 1500 euro or if its a problem, so I stop spam forum

Do you know already the bonuses they gives both sbo and 188 ? Looking for them on site but im blind

[kiwi]

Originally Posted by genozzolo

Do you know already the bonuses they gives both sbo and 188 ? Looking for them on site but im blind
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No bonus at SBOBET.

188bet has bonusses from time to time but I think with bad conditions.

These books are good because of their odds and high limits but not especially for bonus hunters.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Betphoenix are a pretty good balance - they do bonuses, and with soccer dimelimes. As far as I know they're unique in that.

[genozzolo]

I browsed all those bookies, Sbo Bet seems nice, specially the interface for booking, very clean and cool.

Now I sent a mail about if I can sign with neteller account from europe with inside euros but they didnt reply yet.

[kiwi]

If you like a soccer book with Neteller you can chose 12Bet.

[genozzolo]

I took 12bet and waiting my bank that upload on neteller.

I wanna choice also a 2nd option, how are interwetten and expekt ?

About soccer and if they have all, or they have only most famouse nations ?

thanks

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Interwetten have crap odds and tiny, tiny limts.

Expekt will allow larger bets, but their odds are fairly poor.

[kiwi]

Originally Posted by HeeeHAWWWW

Expekt will allow larger bets...

... at the beginning. Now they accept never stakes higher than 50 Euro in my case and are rather useless.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Guess it depends on your luck. I've been limited all over the place, but not there.

[Kaoru]

go for Pinnacle, solid book which most players here would vouch for
they are having connection problem for the past week(s) but give them ago once you can access them

[genozzolo]

As I said, I logged pinnacle they had kinda 0 live " was late in the night", while 12bet and 188 bet had at least 9 live match going.

[eli]

genozzolo, you said italy has monopoly law,
Don't you worry that you will break the law while you bet on foreign sites?

[genozzolo]

sorry the nub question

im betting on a live match

Adana Demirspor 0 Bucaspor 1 at 30"

So I bid on Bucaspor 0 @1.820 , 1st Half In-Play Handicap

Half time ended and i get on bet screen account : Danger - Confirmed

what is that ? :O
I looked into rules, they can cancel the bet, but why in this case ? and it mean they cancelled it now ?

It say

Bucaspor 0 @1.820
(Danger - Confirmed)