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    Exclamation TheGreek.com - I'm Actually Sweating My Payout!! Step Up TheGreek!

    I joined the TheGreek.com early April 2011 after BetEd started putting ridiculous limits in my bets making it impossible to bet big on games. (Yes, BetEd.com owes me money as well, thiefs!).

    I went in a pretty good lucky streak with TheGreek, with a combination of good picks and hitting lucky parlays combination, ending up with a pretty good five figure balance $XX,XXX.
    I requested a check payout for about one third of the balance (still in the $XX,XXX range) and they actually came through with a cashier's check. I was happy to finally find a reputable site, and decided to move with them for all my betting.

    Anyways, my streak finally ended and after a 3-day horrible losing streak I decided to withdraw the rest of my money.
    I requested a wire for the remaining balance, we are talking $30,000+.
    They've claimed to have send it, and they've provided me some documentation as "proof" of doing so.
    Unfortunately looks like the problem is someone clearly made a mistake on their end forgetting the most important piece of information.

    My Bank Account number.
    The confirmation has all other needed data (name, address, routing, etc, etc). Seriously, who forget a bank account when sending a wire? Jeez...

    Anyway...

    They supposedly sent the wire on May 5, 2011.
    Today is June 9, 2011, no money in my account.

    All that said, I can't claim any foul play yet.
    So far, it seems like a legitimate clerical error, but I'm still surprise they would let someone that makes such crucial errors handle their withdrawals.

    I'm worried, but not freaking out yet. They've already proved to me they will honor large withdrawals, so even after a month I still have some faith.

    I've requested an investigation from my bank (two weeks ago) still going on, wire investigations are a pain in the ass, and very time consuming I've learned.
    Meanwhile, TheGreek.com are trying to recall the wire to send me a check instead, if successful recalling it. Fingers crossed. That is the latest piece of news of a long back forth with their customer service.

    Why, am I posting this here?
    Frankly I wanted to get the word out.
    It has been a month+ and I just don't feel right not trying to do something else about it.
    I believe the ratings provided in this site and other similar sites brings them business and credibility, so if something does go sour, I will happily provide any information needed to the staff of SBR to prove my case, they would definitively be deserving of a "F-" rating in my eyes if they don't come through.

    Once again, I'm not bashing TheGreek.com yet (only the moron that forgot to include the bank account in a wire transfer, dumbass...), I just want to share the experience in case something bad does happen.
    Their customer service has been very professional and they've refunded me fees for the withdrawals for the problem, which is nice, but not even close of what the owe me.

    I will post updates, bad or good.
    I will definitely give them credit if they do come through, give them hell if they don't.

    Let's see what happens...


    Lesson to share so far...never request bank wires. Use something else but bank wires.
    Looks like the chance for human error is too much to make it worth it; and when something does go wrong, it is a pain in the ass to fix things.

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    i think one call to the main man Spiro over there would solve this.. imo i would pay ask for 3-4 checks all for under 10K.. why raise red flags asking for 30k at once.. but to each his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    i think one call to the main man Spiro over there would solve this.. imo i would pay ask for 3-4 checks all for under 10K.. why raise red flags asking for 30k at once.. but to each his own.

    gl

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    3-4 checks under 10k would raise more flags over a short period and is a crime know as structuring if you do it to avoid detection or tax payment.

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    what´s the purpose of this thread? wires get screwed up all the time, between the idiots at the sportsbooks and the idiots at the banks there are bound to be problems. they appear to be dealing with it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    i think one call to the main man Spiro over there would solve this.. imo i would pay ask for 3-4 checks all for under 10K.. why raise red flags asking for 30k at once.. but to each his own. gl -stash
    The only point of that is if you are trying to hide. I pay my taxes.
    I don't mess with the tax-man, not worth it.

    Don't know this Spiro individual, but will look into it. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topgame85 View Post


    3-4 checks under 10k would raise more flags over a short period and is a crime know as structuring if you do it to avoid detection or tax payment.
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    the greek pisses on 30K

    this story is BS
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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    what´s the purpose of this thread? wires get screwed up all the time, between the idiots at the sportsbooks and the idiots at the banks there are bound to be problems. they appear to be dealing with it for you.
    Agreed. Problems happen and the Greek seems to be on top of it and handling it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post
    the greek pisses on 30K this story is BS
    Well, good for them, that is a huge amount for me.
    Don't really care if thegreek.com handles billions of dollars a day.
    I can only talk about my experience, and I have no reason to make this up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenal View Post
    Agreed. Problems happen and the Greek seems to be on top of it and handling it.
    Only wanted to share my experience for current and future thegreek users that might face a similar situation.
    A post like this will give some peace of mind in the future (It would've for me) if everything turns out fine. Or serve as a warning for others if things go in the wrong direction.

    You are only seeing the latest piece of news (which yes, makes it seem like everything is fine and they are on top of it).
    It has been a constant back and forth, including them refusing to initiate an investigation because they supposedly had a confirmation of delivery. There was no need to go into that many details, it is quite a long post already.

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    i think the 30k raised a red flag at your bank and is under investigation and in the future you should not withdraw more than 9999k every 30 days just to stay off the DOJ and UIGEA radars

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    Ok well i guess no one really made OP feel better about his situation. Well this is the first im hearing of something with thegreek and they are not one of the top rated books for nothing. It was an obvious error and u will get your $ for sure. Just do the checks in 3-4 of them and u will get them in 2-3days tops thats how good they are. If it makes u feel better u should have no problems with them at all and Spiro is the owner and very nice from what i understand. I hope this makes u feel better and worry free, also 30k to me is not chump change and these guys have rediculous $ with a top notch company to go with it. Post up in a few days when u get it u know u will be smiling when its in your hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    what´s the purpose of this thread? wires get screwed up all the time, between the idiots at the sportsbooks and the idiots at the banks there are bound to be problems. they appear to be dealing with it for you.
    What' the purpose of the evening news or your local newspaper? To keep people informed.

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    lol 30k from ******* jamaica. lolololol no shit its being investigated alright. I doubt you see anything

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    The Greek is a top notch outfit. Few places you can sleep easy being owed 30K. Bank wires go wrong all the time. They are a pain in the arse.

    No need to sweat.
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    I'm sure The Greek will eventually get it right for you. I have a friend that has withdrawn a similar amount with no problems. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powtail View Post
    The only point of that is if you are trying to hide. I pay my taxes.
    I don't mess with the tax-man, not worth it.

    Don't know this Spiro individual, but will look into it. Thanks.
    I don't know USA but here in Eu gambling winnings are tax free so no matter if you win only 5 buck or 30k the tax-man can do nothing about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pouroupoupou View Post
    Thegreek always pays. This thread is BS
    your words are BS ... the man just tells his story, not accusing TheGreek ... mistakes happen ...
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    nice to see you have 3 posts..something isn't right about this

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    Quote Originally Posted by powtail View Post
    They've claimed to have send it, and they've provided me some documentation as "proof" of doing so.
    Unfortunately looks like the problem is someone clearly made a mistake on their end forgetting the most important piece of information.

    My Bank Account number.
    The confirmation has all other needed data (name, address, routing, etc, etc). Seriously, who forget a bank account when sending a wire? Jeez...
    And you believe this?!
    That someone within the Greek made such an error would already be bad enough, but surely the moment the wire form gets into the hands of a bank employe, he or she will ask for it.

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    My bank sent the Greek a wire (deposit) for 3k a few years ago. They said they never received it, my bank said it was sent.
    It dragged on for about a month.
    I got frustrated with not being able to get a trace from my bank and called a Regional Manager, escalating my complaint.
    I hated to do this as I was sending a lot of wires offshore at the time, and now I was calling attention to myself and my account with a higher level of bank management.
    I'd be surprised if I didn't end up having at least one SAR written up by my bank on me.

    After about a month, the Greek finally realized they had received it long ago.
    The story was sort of garbled when their Accounts Dept. explained it - it sounded like they'd logged in the numbers on the transfer incorrectly, and incompetently despite many phone calls from me didn't figure it out for weeks.

    That's the only bad experience I ever had there, and I described them as a class act a month or two ago re: my last withdrawal experience.
    But these bad experiences can occur.
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    betfair messed up my payment back to my cc , they said they sent it and the bank said they never received it after weeks of going back and forth i just gave up ( it was only 75 bucks) i was just testing this payout method and lesson learned.

    point is in these transactions mistakes happen, i don't doubt betfair sent it , but somewhere things got messed up,

    bank wires involve alot of digits , swift code, routing number , your loss is much greater
    the greek will pay you no doubt

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    for 30K I would have flown to Jamaica to collect

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    They will pay you. I have received the daily max Neteller withdrawal a few times. Always same day.

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    "Or serve as a warning for others if things go in the wrong direction."

    Sounds to me like a jealous worker from another sportsbook.... No chance in hell the greek or bet jamaica will ever have any $$ problems. I know people that bet 5-figures on games there.... I don't think they are really having issues with a 30k wire.

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    Hi powtail,

    Problems can occur but it doesn't mean the sportsbook doesn't want to pay you. The Greek has a long-standing history of being financially sound.

    If you'd like, you can write the details to help@sportsbookreview.com.

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    been with Greek for 8 years, never once had a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post
    Hi powtail, Problems can occur but it doesn't mean the sportsbook doesn't want to pay you. The Greek has a long-standing history of being financially sound. If you'd like, you can write the details to help@sportsbookreview.com.
    Lou, I just sent you the details to prove it.
    I don't really care about the skeptics replying non-value added information to the post. I just wanted to put the word out.
    If everything goes right, TheGreek will come out looking great and this will add to their reputation and credibility. I will give them props for their effort.

    I don’t see the harm on adding my experience for others in the future to benefit, regardless of the outcome.

    If you constantly get bigger payouts from them, good for you.

    This is my largest payout ever, and it is coming from a sports book I’ve only dealt with a couple of months.

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    The problem is you said this is a warning...implying that they are having money problems... anyone in the industry knows what a joke that is...get over yourself.... 30k doesn't mean much to them

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