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    Default CAUTION --- TONY 5 DIMES TRYING to TAKE A SHOT AT PLAYERS RIGHT NOW.

    Well first I want to say, I like SBR and I am not trying to piss on one of their advertisers, but still the turth is the truth.

    I am sure almost everyone knows there has been and always seems to be a lot of 5 dimes complaint threads. These pretty much always center on someone hitting a big payday, trying to cash out and then Tony claiming it was a bad line and said player is a shot taker for hitting the bad line.

    Recently we have a guy who won big in the casino and Tony claims the game was erronously set at a 114% payout, the customer knew this and used a bot to take advantage of poor Tony. There was also another where a guy hit a long shot big payout and Tony claimed bad line.

    So today I logged into my 5 dimes account and checked on some odds for this weekends Memorial Golf tourney. I also checked the same odds at the greek, bet jam, bo dog, Legends, and sportsbook.com

    I found that all of 5 dimes lines on long shots could in fact be called "bad lines" ( But only if one of them wins )

    Ernie Els is +6000 at the greek and sportsbook.com, but +10000 at 5 dimes.

    Brian Davis ranged from +8000 to +10000 at every other book, but he is +23000 at 5 dimes.

    Vijay Singh is +5000 at BoDog but +11000 at 5 dimes.

    Robert Allenby ranges from +6000 to +7000 at all the other books, but he is +13000 at 5 dimes.

    Sean Ohair is +5000 at the greek, +6000 at the others and +13000 at 5 dimes.

    Jim Furyk ranges from +1800 to +2000 at the others, but +4200 at 5 dimes.

    Angel Cabrera ranges +8000 to +10000 at others, but +21000 at 5 dimes.

    These are just a few examples, but in fact every long shot of +3000 or higher at the greek is double sometimes even triple at 5 dimes. Tony has over 80 players posted at +13000 or higher, while not one of the other books I checked has even 1 player at +13000 or higher.

    Now I know a lot of people will say , so what that just means Tony is giving better odds. That is true, but I guess my question is, if Tony intentionally gives better odds to draw the action, how can he claim bad line when 1 of these plays actually win ?

    99% of these plays are going to lose and Tony is going to have no problem deducting those losses from the players accounts. How then can he cry Cheater when maybe .2 % of these long shots hit ?

    I remember reading one of the chat logs from one of the complaint threads. Tony tells the guy the longshot odds were posted incorrectly and the guy knew it and "took a shot" . Tony then tells the guy that the fair odds were 40 to 1 I believe instead of 120 to 1. Tony said the 40 to 1 was the real odds because thats what other books were running it at.

    Problem is 5 dimes doesnt run odds on longshots anywhere near what other books run them at. All you have to do is check 5 dimes futures on long shots and compare them to other books. What tony does is he takes a guy like Ernie Els who is 50 or 60 to 1 other places and makes it 100 or 125 to 1 knowing he will get the action. Then pretty much always that play loses anyway. When the rare occasion that the play wins occurs, Tony tries to strongarm the player into accepting less.

    Most players, if they put $20 on Brian Davis at 230 to 1 and won $4600, most players would accept Tony's bullshit about the odds should have only been 100 to 1 so youre only getting $2000. We see 25 complaints on this board that means Tony has probably pulled this shit 10,000 times to actually get 25 different people posting it on the board. Most people wont post their problem here for varoius reasons.

    But all of 5 dimes long shot odds are like this. Look at the motor racing constructors championship, all the long shots are triple what they should be.

    The Drivers championship --- every single long shot is at least double payout at 5 dimes then it is at any other book.

    Trust me, If Brian Davis wins or any of these other players who 5 dimes has doubled/tripled the payout odds on, Tony will claim the player is a shot taker who hit a bad line.

    Thats BS. Tony is the shot taker. The way I see it, if you intentionally post double and triple payout odds on long shots as a way of creating a competitive advantage for yourself, you shouldnt be able to claim, shot taker, bad line when one of them hits. I mean Tony certainly isnt giving the losses back on the 99+ % that lose.
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    Man 5 Dimes gets a lot of negative posts

    Players choice where to play

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    only bad lines if they cash

    tony loves this sh1t

    fukin punk b1tch

    i would slap the taste outta that prikks mouth if i ever met him
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    whether what you are saying is true or not I don't know, but I'm rather impressed nobs found all this out and put it in coherent paragraphs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Man 5 Dimes gets a lot of negative posts

    Players choice where to play
    I love 5dimes. I guess that's because they've never screwed me before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Man 5 Dimes gets a lot of negative posts

    Players choice where to play

    true JJ. But I am just posting here for people to see. Too many better books on this site that never have negative complaints. Dont fall for these double/triple payouts because even if you get super lucky and win, Tony is going to say you cheated him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    whether what you are saying is true or not I don't know, but I'm rather impressed nobs found all this out and put it in coherent paragraphs.

    Go check the odds. Brian Davis, Angel Cabrera, what a minute, every player who isnt in the top 5 or 6 likely to win is like double or triple the payout offered at thegreek, bodog, legends, or sportsbook.com.

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    I am very impressed someone noticed this.

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    nobs get princess tony on live chat and discuss this with him

    you worded it out perfectly. see what that the princess has to say
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nats' Fan View Post
    I love 5dimes. I guess that's because they've never screwed me before.
    I hope you didn't bet Brian Davis and win. See how much you like them. Tony designed the lines himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobs View Post
    Go check the odds. Brian Davis, Angel Cabrera, what a minute, every player who isnt in the top 5 or 6 likely to win is like double or triple the payout offered at thegreek, bodog, legends, or sportsbook.com.
    thats the part i was commending you on, i was talking about the speculation tony will/will not pay out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robmpink View Post
    I hope you didn't bet Brian Davis and win. See how much you like them. Tony designed the lines himself.
    Are you being serious right now? Does 5dimes really pull that shit?

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    Fuk my life. I got one book that won't pay me.. and now I gotta worry about imaginary lines. Fuk my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nats' Fan View Post
    Are you being serious right now? Does 5dimes really pull that shit?
    you don't have to agree with what nobs is saying, but i couldn't argue against his points because i have seen something similar to this posted here.
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    Yeah he doubles/triples the lines on long shots that wont win anyway, and if one of them does win he calls you a cheating, shot taking, scum bag and he will only pay out at what the odds should have been. At least there are a few complaints from players on this board as to that effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    you don't have to agree with what nobs is saying, but i couldn't argue against his points because i have seen something similar to this posted here.
    Is sbr aware of these tactics?

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    nobs you are on the money with this one

    definitely what he is doing
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    Crazy! Thanks for the info
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    As long as the check I get from them tomorrow doesnt bounce im good.

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    I appreciate you taking the time to post this. I play props occasioanlly at 5d... winning is hard enough, don't need the hassle of a Tony confrontation to actually get paid. Thank you Sir for posting.

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    No problem. I just think every other book on SBR is better than 5 dimes. Tony will get action on these lines from players hoping to get lucky and hit a good payout and then all these long shots will lose and tony will make out. I would love to see one of these tripled payouts hit. It would be interesting to read the complaint thread and hear Tony calling the player a shot taker.

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    Never trust an Italian named Tony.

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    Did you calculate the entire market??? Because 5Dimes has been offering unique opinions and paying on them since Moby Dick was a minnow. What are the favorites compared to 5Dimes line? I'm gonna guess much shorter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Did you calculate the entire market??? Because 5Dimes has been offering unique opinions and paying on them since Moby Dick was a minnow. What are the favorites compared to 5Dimes line? I'm gonna guess much shorter.
    never fukkin heard of ya pal
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Did you calculate the entire market??? Because 5Dimes has been offering unique opinions and paying on them since Moby Dick was a minnow. What are the favorites compared to 5Dimes line? I'm gonna guess much shorter.
    still doesnt change the fact what op said, u know u cant dispute that

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Did you calculate the entire market??? Because 5Dimes has been offering unique opinions and paying on them since Moby Dick was a minnow. What are the favorites compared to 5Dimes line? I'm gonna guess much shorter.

    The favorites might win. Who is going to triple the line on Mickelson ?

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    All kidding aside walker please dont talk to us like we are stupid

    Tony pays you. simple as that

    There is no doubt if one of these longshots hit Tony would cancel the play and say said player was a shot taker. No doubt about it
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    SBR _John is a fuking hamburger when it comes to gambling.

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    John I know youre a good guy, not to argue with you, but we posters dont know how many times if ever, 5 dimes posted a +12000 on a guy who was +4000 everywhere else and actually paid it off.

    Maybe if its a $5 bet or a guy that is just going to lose it back, maybe they would pay it. But I also know that Tonly likes to claim bad line because there are many complaints on this board with chat history where Tony calls player a shot taker and claims it was a bad line.

    My point is, he has a right to make unique lines and he has a right to post any player at +99999 if he wants even if every other book has that player at +300, but how then can he claim bad line in the rare rare instance that one of his "unique opinions" burns his arse ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Did you calculate the entire market??? Because 5Dimes has been offering unique opinions and paying on them since Moby Dick was a minnow. What are the favorites compared to 5Dimes line? I'm gonna guess much shorter.
    lol

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    I remember a thread last year where guy bet PGA player who should of been 35 or 40-1 and 5dimes gave him something crazy like a 100-1 and the player won and tony cancelled the bet. someone dig this thread up please. it was PGA last season
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    It is his business, he can run it like he chooses. Don't play there if you have issues or concerns.
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    I just looked at favorites as well.

    I'd say Nobs is spot on here
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