[i4jelway7]

http://pregame.com/sports/stories/ar...0_-159329.aspx


Bad things are brewing

[BOP24]

And now I just word that BetGameday just shut down accounts that are based out of New York. I got the message when I signed in this past weekend and the CSR told me they are no longer doing business with anyone in New York State.

The party is over.

[jgilmartin]

Misleading thread title. It says they won't be taking any NEW accounts from the US.

[DRZ]

betus not taking new us accounts either i believe.

[John Dough]

Misleading thread title. It says they won't be taking any NEW accounts from the US.

I wish people would stop confusing the two.

[bubba]

Banks are putting the screws on tight about CC deposits. The state of New York is basically shut down completely from using CC's. The only option is either some e-wallets or Money Transfer/Rapid Transfer.

what specifically has happened in the state of NY? the only thing i know of is bodog refuses to pay me by ****. do you have a link to anything else?

[toga toga]

VIP also has closed existing accounts based in NY.

[Bill Dozer]

VIP and Gameday (same company) have not accepted new US players in years. They have very little sportsbook action left at all and aren't marketing outside of US. No Canadians either.

After Matchbook, SportsInteraction is really the only book that is newly out of the US for new players. They are actually the last book in North America (Canada) that took Americans. Sportsbook.com lost a lot of their processing and didn't want the mass poker signups in the offseason to clog the pipes. They will be marketing by fall and my guess is after they conveniently break off their advertising deals that don't help them in the offseason.

[Mastertvtech]

Why is ther so much emphasis on CC's? There are ** and ** locations just about everywhere and I would assume that it is a much safer way to send funds too??

[robmpink]

Banks are putting the screws on tight about CC deposits. The state of New York is basically shut down completely from using CC's. The only option is either some e-wallets or Money Transfer/Rapid Transfer.

Guy, they have been tight since last August. If it has been working for you, it has been because the use of a miscoding processor. Get a clue.

[Igetp2s]

I don't understand what is the point of all these places banning new US players. They are in the exact same legal situation whether they accept new US players or only allowing existing ones. I don't see what the benefit is.

[BrianLaverty]

I don't understand what is the point of all these places banning new US players. They are in the exact same legal situation whether they accept new US players or only allowing existing ones. I don't see what the benefit is.

The situation has absolutely nothing to do with the legal part for these sportsbooks...

They just wanna limit the amount of payouts they can do due to processing issues. With the crackdown on processors within the US last month, alot of these sportsbooks took a hit with how they can process. If they limit the amount of new players coming in, they will limit the # of payouts they have to do, instead of getting bigger and bigger, and not being able to handle it. Finding processors is very costly for these books and it makes more sense on a business point to limit the amount of customers.

[mtneer1212]

E-cheks and CCs are going to be very tough to use..... stick with the local wire merchants, and all will be well.

[Seattle Slew]

I think these federal crackdowns (Neteller, Poker busts) had probes based in NY state.

what specifically has happened in the state of NY? the only thing i know of is bodog refuses to pay me (by check). do you have a link to anything else?

[Milk Money]

who will be next?

[patswin]

another one bites the dust.
i think the writing is on the wall with offshores. the good days are over

[magynuck]

even for those outside of the us there is a ripple effect

[djefferis]

Books are going to continue to limit who they take on these days. Proccesors have limits too, and 100 small transactions a day above the norm sets off alarms.

Books want solid clients who won't hit and run and who won't chargeback.

Heritage has operated this way for over a decade. Don't be suprised to see others be cautious.

Fact of the matter is 100's aren't suddenly looking to become gamblers daily. Books aren't stupid and aren't fighting for the same group of customers like the old days...limited budgets, less solid shops and a tight economic and legal enviorment makes this a sellers market for us facing shops...few taking new biz and when they do they won't be giving huge bonuses. To the positive though, strong books will shine through.

[saintjames]

i fear that some more B books and even a few A books will leave the USA

[Vondy]

Wow I sure hope sports interaction doesnt leave the US!

[DIF]

This is not good at all, This could also mean the end of online-gambling for some european countries that believes in the US policy strategy.

[Kindred]

I remember when paypal went down and I had to send a *********** fedex to Canbet..players and books adapt the game will continue can't be stopped

[Legions36]

I just started working in the bodog kahnawake office and the DOJ that shut down all the poker sites is from New York, so therefore the banks are real wary about accepting any kind of transactions. Most CC's aren't going through, and ALL checks won't clear. For NY residents, the only option is Money transfers and E-wallets like *********. Also Utah is added to a similar list of states that no checks can be sent to. I will keep the board notified as updates are confirmed as I am a player as well that works at a book

Thanks alot man.

[rick50time]

when they doing this stunt?

[donjuan]

VIP and Gameday (same company) have not accepted new US players in years. They have very little sportsbook action left at all and aren't marketing outside of US. No Canadians either.

After Matchbook, SportsInteraction is really the only book that is newly out of the US for new players. They are actually the last book in North America (Canada) that took Americans. Sportsbook.com lost a lot of their processing and didn't want the mass poker signups in the offseason to clog the pipes. They will be marketing by fall and my guess is after they conveniently break off their advertising deals that don't help them in the offseason.

Any chance SIA does the same? Pretty sure they're on the Cake Network for poker which is one of the biggest ones left.

[donkdown]

lol cake poker cant pay anyone out right now. Takes over 30 days for a check and 2 weeks for a ***. Cake is going down the shitter~~

[sdtrader]

I just got an email saying they will no longer be taking ********** anymore.

[Bill Dozer]

Any chance SIA does the same? Pretty sure they're on the Cake Network for poker which is one of the biggest ones left.

Can't say never but they wont be back this year if they do. SIA has been trying to build their non-US base for a few years now.