[RickySteve]

After years of getting killed, I've finally achieved a net positive balance at DSI. I log in today and my limits are now $500 max on everything. Not a good sign from a book experiencing serious payment problems.

[bigboydan]

Didn't Bookmaker put the clamps on you too Mr.Ricky?

[RickySteve]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

Didn't Bookmaker put the clamps on you too Mr.Ricky?

Bookmaker has asked me politely to bet smaller amounts on certain things, but never wholesale limit cuts.

[SSLP]

I dont buy this story RickySteve seems a bit overdramatic DSI s a great book and one of the trend setters in this industry . If you think DSI is going down anytime soon dont hold your breath trust me I know .

RickySteve I would kick you out if you were one of my clients .

DSI is great

[Justin7]

Were you playing parlays against openers?

[katstale]

Were you betting over a grand on 1H lines? Cause that will do it!!

[Climate]

Betcris caters to sharp action, something is wrong with this post.

How could a book which posts lines first anywhere in the world not take professional action?

I don't know this specific case, but usually it's an untolerable bettor who causes headaches for the book.

My experience is if you're patient and pleasant with the book, go easy on them when they have problems as long as you know you are going to get paid, and hit them up for a little freebie if you are inconvienced, (ei, $50 freeplay or free withdrawal) you'll be just fine.

[Mudcat]

Not that I doubt RickySteve is giving an accurate description of his experience but it seems relevant to say:

DSI is accepting my action and I am professional.


(Mind you, I have no idea what my lifetime net balance is.)

[SSLP]

Originally Posted by Climate

Betcris caters to sharp action, something is wrong with this post.

How could a book which posts lines first anywhere in the world not take professional action?

I don't know this specific case, but usually it's an untolerable bettor who causes headaches for the book.

My experience is if you're patient and pleasant with the book, go easy on them when they have problems as long as you know you are going to get paid, and hit them up for a little freebie if you are inconvienced, (ei, $50 freeplay or free withdrawal) you'll be just fine.

Great Response ,

Take note RickySteve

[fiveteamer]

Up over 9 units there.

Never made a deposit bigger than 4/10 of a single unit.

[Crayzee]

how does the book determine who is pro and who is not?
just by the amounts you bet per game or your history of winning or losing?
or amount you post up ?
if by amount per game is there a generally accepted amount that determines pro or not?
dime per game ? or more?

[katstale]

They take pro action. That being said, they will ask you, somewhat politely, to limit yourself on certain type bets. I did not find this an inconvenience and it was much better treatment than being collared to $50 (ala 5Dimes).

As far as how they identify pro? I imagine bet size first is a determinant. Followed closely by what type of bet you are making. Finally, when is that bet being placed and are you somewhat successful.

Reiterate, Cris does not throw out pros/sharps like most books. BUT, they will limit action.

Now, since i just bragged on you--how abt paying some people today??!!

[maritime]

Originally Posted by Mudcat

Not that I doubt RickySteve is giving an accurate description of his experience but it seems relevant to say:

DSI is accepting my action and I am professional.


(Mind you, I have no idea what my lifetime net balance is.)

A bit off topic, but Mudcat, are bookmaker checks still coming fairly fast? I've seen other threads commenting on delays but it seems mainly with ACH payouts.

[Peep]

I think all books limit action to all players from time to time, especially on props.

I was down to $300 max bets at Pinnacle for a while on Alternates.

[durito]

Originally Posted by SSLP

Great Response ,

Take note RickySteve

Except that he has no idea what he is talking about.


Last time I checked, DSI and Cris are in fact separate books.

[TeamPlayer]

Originally Posted by katstale

They take pro action. That being said, they will ask you, somewhat politely, to limit yourself on certain type bets. I did not find this an inconvenience and it was much better treatment than being collared to $50 (ala 5Dimes).

As far as how they identify pro? I imagine bet size first is a determinant. Followed closely by what type of bet you are making. Finally, when is that bet being placed and are you somewhat successful.

Reiterate, Cris does not throw out pros/sharps like most books. BUT, they will limit action.

Now, since i just bragged on you--how abt paying some people today??!!

Katstale said it best. All books will limit you on some types of wagers. I believe Diamond is still for "professionals." I've always been successful (only 1 ever deposit) with Diamond and I've never been restricted. However, I only do straight wagers at nearly all the same size less usually less than 1k and never had any restrictions placed on me.

[RickySteve]

DSI Head Manager: "We don't want action from you on anything for more than $500."

Me: "So you're not a professional book?"

DSI Head Manager: "We're making the professional decision to not accept your action."

Me: "That's the definition of a recreational book."

DSI Head Manager: "..."

Me: "Have a good day."

[SSLP]

Man is it just me , or does Ricky Steve seems like a basket full of sour grapes?

[RickySteve]

Originally Posted by Justin7

Were you playing parlays against openers?

Mostly limit bets near close, round robins & open parlays. Donkey stuff, except I happened to have a nice run lately.

Winning $30K on a poorly conceived Formula 1 number probably raised a flag.

[RickySteve]

Originally Posted by SSLP

Man is it just me , or does Ricky Steve seems like a basket full of sour grapes?

1500 posts in 6 months. What's your commission?

[SSLP]

So let me guess you are now judging people by their number of posts?

Ricky I am going to say it again , I am not a shill I have been in this business in Costa Rica for over 10 years . Again ask the OWNERS of this board and they will explain to you that I am not a shill.

Your complaints just seem like over dramatic , and you bitch too much .

To me your not a "pro"

[RickySteve]

Did you mean: you're ?

[Tosser]

I have $500 limits on everything like Ricky at DSI...
They are not run by CRIS as far as i know..only financially backed.

DSI also likes to send out tons of spam mails, another sign of a recreational book.

[TeamPlayer]

I don't know your situations Tosser and RickySteve. But perhaps you should ask SportsbookReview to investigate your limits. After all, they list DSI as a "Professional" book. If it's not a "professional" book, we'd all like to know the truth.

[Tosser]

It´s nothing special really...even the Greek kicks out players that catch steam lines, Wsex for example will put you on delay if you take it too far..

The only 100% professional book is Pinnacle.
They will kick you out if you bet bad lines and refuse to let them cancel the wager, but that´s it.

[TeamPlayer]

That's absolutely true Tosser.

The problem here is that a lot of people get confused by the definition of the "Professional" classification as meaning that anything goes.

[SSLP]

Originally Posted by RickySteve

Did you mean: you're ?

Oh sorry RickySteve did i disturb your professional betting brain?

[Climate]

Originally Posted by durito

Except that he has no idea what he is talking about.


Last time I checked, DSI and Cris are in fact separate books.

DSI and Cris and Bookmaker are owned by the same company, and the lines are usually virtually identical.

That's why many people use the names interchangeably. When people use both names or one of those names to describe the company, they assume you know what they're talking about.

Anyone who knows anything about offshore sportsbooks understands him perfectly.

That's unfair criticism.

[durito]

Originally Posted by Climate

DSI and Cris and Bookmaker are owned by the same company, and the lines are usually virtually identical.

That's why many people use the names interchangeably. When people use both names or one of those names to describe the company, they assume you know what they're talking about.

Anyone who knows anything about offshore sportsbooks understands him perfectly.

That's unfair criticism.

No it's not.

Especially not if DSI is limiting accounts and Cris isn't. That would make them quite different.

"Virtually identical" does not include Baseball, which is kind of a big deal.

[Climate]

Originally Posted by durito

No it's not.

Especially not if DSI is limiting accounts and Cris isn't. That would make them quite different.

"Virtually identical" does not include Baseball, which is kind of a big deal.

Ok, you made your point and I made mine. If I really wanted to get into a "prove me right and you wrong" debate, I could point out examples, but really, who gives a f....?

Now I know why I only have 20 or so posts here and rarely post anywhere anymore.

[TeamPlayer]

Originally Posted by Climate

Ok, you made your point and I made mine. If I really wanted to get into a "prove me right and you wrong" debate, I could point out examples, but really, who gives a f....?

Now I know why I only have 20 or so posts here and rarely post anywhere anymore.

Better to enjoy our short time on this earth and let the Durito's of the world do all the posting.

[shipitkthx]

Originally Posted by Climate

DSI and Cris and Bookmaker are owned by the same company, and the lines are usually virtually identical.

That's why many people use the names interchangeably. When people use both names or one of those names to describe the company, they assume you know what they're talking about.

Anyone who knows anything about offshore sportsbooks understands him perfectly.

That's unfair criticism.

Bookmaker is a direct clone of Cris for US Players.

DSI, while using same software as Cris and sharing support, is still "separate." And as far as offering the same lines, DSI has dimelines in baseball while cris does not, they usually copy Cris lines for other sports, but not always.

[kisado]

Whats all this talk of dime lines at DSI...what I have been seeing is the same bullshit 20 cent lines that Bookmaker has.

[RickySteve]

Originally Posted by kisado

Whats all this talk of dime lines at DSI...what I have been seeing is the same bullshit 20 cent lines that Bookmaker has.

Overnights.

[LT Profits]

DSI puts up dime lines around 10ish in the AM.