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09-16-2007, 10:34 AM
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#36 (permalink)
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Dante,
That was my initial assessment as well. Even Omega offered more options for a US customer, but their fee structure was ridiculous and company decision making was very questionable. Until someone steps up with a "wow" alternative, there's no reason to make things more complicated right now as an American. I also question the motives of any company emerging right now with the specific intent of targeting us, at least Neteller was such a global payment solution that we reaped the benefits of. Seems like these people just want to service gamblers. Proceed with caution.
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09-16-2007, 11:03 AM
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#37 (permalink)
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SBR High Roller
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyl
Dante,
That was my initial assessment as well. Even Omega offered more options for a US customer, but their fee structure was ridiculous and company decision making was very questionable. Until someone steps up with a "wow" alternative, there's no reason to make things more complicated right now as an American. I also question the motives of any company emerging right now with the specific intent of targeting us, at least Neteller was such a global payment solution that we reaped the benefits of. Seems like these people just want to service gamblers. Proceed with caution.
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Crazy
Absolutely agree, this is not a solution. I will continue with the pain in the butt WU, MG and prepaid visas until a viable money transfer arrives.
Capitalism always answers a need, and there is a need. Since it isn't happening I can only assume that this ahole law and the DOJ is doing everything in their power to discourage investment in this area.
Thought the R's were concerned about individual freedom and
capitalism. I guess only when it suits their biased interests.
Not unlike their stance on family values and at the same time
looking to blow somebody in a bathroom or screw a male page or any number of crazy things that are happening. They are imploding. I will never again vote for a national R.
Last edited by dante1 : 09-16-2007 at 12:23 PM.
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09-16-2007, 12:17 PM
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#38 (permalink)
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Dante you are so right, wtf we need a middleman if they offer the same deposit methods as any sportsbook
I just dont get it now?
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09-16-2007, 01:41 PM
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#39 (permalink)
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SBR Rookie
Join Date: 09-15-07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JC
How do Americans get money in and out of your system?
ACH, checks, echecks, bank wires, credit or debit cards?
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Dear Jay,
US members are limited to sending a P2P Money Transfer or Check. Due to the obvious issues in the USA we do not handle any EChecks or the like from USA people.
Regarding Credit & Debit Cards - we do not accept those, as, our business model is a guaranteed funds status for any money in the system.
Regards,
Mariana
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09-16-2007, 01:51 PM
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#40 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by crazyl
I'm still not sold on this being the best an eWallet can do for Americans. Perhaps no one has figured out a viable work around, but this seems unnecessary. If I'm going to use a money transfer service, I'm doing it directly to the book, not paying an extra charge to the middle man.
This seems like it could be worthwhile for Canadians or whatever, but right now I think we need to wait for a company to step up and try to replace Neteller. Maybe that will never happen? 
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Dear Crazyl,
Many customers are already using our service when they send money to a book and do not even realize it.
Several of the books had asked us to specifically make managing the WU transfers easier, which was one of the driving reasons for us bringing the wallet to market. To make it easier for everyone involved to manage their transactions and move their monies.
Also, those of you funding your wallet with a P2P money transfer could probably ask your book to reimburse you and you may find most will if your transfer to them exceeds a certain amount.
-Mariana
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09-16-2007, 01:56 PM
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#41 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggamer3
Some pretty hefty fees, more than 8% for a P2P why?
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Dear biggamer3,
We have done our research and our fees are some of if not the lowest in the marketplace, especially considering the current climate
Personal Member to Personal Member (P2P) transfers cost the sender absolutely nothing and the receiver a flat $1 regardless of the amount.
So to send your buddy 1,000 costs you nothing and your buddy pays $1 to get it!
-Mariana
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09-16-2007, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by katstale
I was looking at the fees pretty close and maybe I missed something? Yea, it would be 8% if you are transferring $100. But at 1% plus $8.95, that makes out to be better than Neteller if you are P2P large sums.
Somebody correct that if I am wrong.
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Dear katstale,
People transferring monies amongst themselved are charged as follows sender pays absolutely nothing! and the receiver pays a flat $1 regardless of the amount.
Merchants (Businesses) are charged $1 plus 1.99% (half what neteller charges) to receive monies and when they send monies to a person it costs them absolutely nothing!
Also, if you deposit $1,000 to your wallet by WU, you can then send 350 to one book 300 to another and maybe 350 to one more, all from one WU.
-Mariana
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09-16-2007, 02:12 PM
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#43 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Dozer
Hello Mariana,
Can you tell us if the staff or anyone working in management formerly ran a sportsbook and which one?
Thanks
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Dear Bill,
I can tell you that several of the principals of the company have been in the gaming business for close to 10 years each.
Whether or not in the capacity of owner, manager, employee, etc is not something for a public forum I am sure you would agree.
Should you want more info or have some questions you can send them directly to myself at mariana @ moneywindow.net or to our office at admin @ moneywindow.net
Regards,
Mariana
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09-16-2007, 04:49 PM
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#44 (permalink)
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This is a pure waste
just send to books with western union or moneygram
no hassles period
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09-16-2007, 05:06 PM
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#45 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjgold
This is a pure waste
just send to books with western union or moneygram
no hassles period
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if you can't use a bank account or credit/debit card this is useless for USA customers with regards to funding books, no point in creating a middle man for WU.
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09-16-2007, 05:19 PM
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#46 (permalink)
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SBR Wise Guy
Join Date: 02-07-07
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What kind of deposit limits are there on WU and Moneygram? I agree that small time nickel and dime players would have no use of this service or Neteller. But for big time players moving $10-20k per day or even a week, an ewallet of this type is needed desperately. It costs too much money waiting days for wires to reach back and forth.
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09-16-2007, 05:36 PM
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#47 (permalink)
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How come no company accepts money orders?
There's a lot less hassle than with MG or WU because no questions are asked, and the fee is also a fraction of what they charge.
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09-16-2007, 05:40 PM
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#48 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyWindow
Dear Bill,
I can tell you that several of the principals of the company have been in the gaming business for close to 10 years each. Whether or not in the capacity of owner, manager, employee, etc is not something for a public forum I am sure you would agree.
Should you want more info or have some questions you can send them directly to myself at mariana @ moneywindow.net or to our office at admin @ moneywindow.net
Regards,
Mariana
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Sounds like dirty laundry. If you have been involved in the gaming business for 10 years, you must have lots of experience and credibility if you're affiliated with and ran by honest individuals a watchdog site such as this would recognize.
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09-16-2007, 05:41 PM
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#49 (permalink)
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Join Date: 04-09-07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by remmy358
if you can't use a bank account or credit/debit card this is useless for USA customers with regards to funding books, no point in creating a middle man for WU.
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This could be very useful for anyone shuffling money between books, especially for USA players. No need to worry about cashing in or out via MoneyWindow, just pipeline your funds between books and take your cashout at the book with the least fees.
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09-16-2007, 07:45 PM
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#50 (permalink)
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SBR Wise Guy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyWindow
Dear Bill,
I can tell you that several of the principals of the company have been in the gaming business for close to 10 years each.
Whether or not in the capacity of owner, manager, employee, etc is not something for a public forum I am sure you would agree.
Should you want more info or have some questions you can send them directly to myself at mariana @ moneywindow.net or to our office at admin @ moneywindow.net
Regards,
Mariana
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I dont know what Bill thinks but I know what I do.
If I am going to send money to someone then I would expect to have some idea of who the principles are.
I can then form a judgement on the security of my money.
If the principles have been involved in respectable offshore books there should be no problem.
I wont be using this service until there is a little more transparency involving who this company is.
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09-16-2007, 07:47 PM
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#51 (permalink)
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